people are saying no effects

moveweight · 12-12-2007, 11:00 AM

Check over at bb.com there are a couple people saying rpm or drive had no effect on them.... id have to agree rpm worked for me but drive did nothing...

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EasyEJL · 12-12-2007, 11:26 AM

A lot of it is dosing and timing. There aren't many people who have said drive did nothing though. Forslean (one of the ingredients in drive) has been shown to significantly make a difference in lean mass + bodyfat over time in univeristy studies, but key word is "over time". Its used in a lot of products by other companies that are here on AM, its actually patented. But like anything, there are bound to be some small % of nonresponders. heck there are some creatine mono nonresponders.

moveweight · 12-12-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EasyEJL

A lot of it is dosing and timing. There aren't many people who have said drive did nothing though. Forslean (one of the ingredients in drive) has been shown to significantly make a difference in lean mass + bodyfat over time in univeristy studies, but key word is "over time". Its used in a lot of products by other companies that are here on AM, its actually patented. But like anything, there are bound to be some small % of nonresponders. heck there are some creatine mono nonresponders.

very true.. i was disappointed but im not trying to start a flaming war. thanks for your professional and mature response!

EasyEJL · 12-12-2007, 11:51 AM

It is a pity, because for most people its pretty effective. Good recomp supps that aid both in the addition of LBM as well as in the subtraction of fat at the same time are hard to find

**strategicmove** · 12-12-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by moveweight

Check over at bb.com there are a couple people saying rpm or drive had no effect on them.... id have to agree rpm worked for me but drive did nothing...

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It is not clear what you mean when you say "Drive did nothing". Did you use only one sample dose? One full bottle? One cycle? How did you dose it? Two caps per day? Four? With food? On an empty stomach? Like Easy said, there are many variables involved. Drive has cumulative effects. For some people, the effects kick in within days of starting it. For others, the effects take longer to set in. If you belong to the few that would dose it right for a full cycle and not notice any difference, then I am sorry it did not work for you. But the responses in the thread you linked are not entirely fair. One commentator wrote: "same as me, after 15 pills I got nothing from both RPM + drive". 15 pills are just 13.6% of an entire bottle, and some would agree an objective assessment would require more than 15 pills.
Noticeable body recomposition, significant muscle hardening, increases in strength and endurance, preservation of lean mass, and so on are results that are triggered by changes in complex and deep metabolic processes that take longer than just a few days to set in.

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**strategicmove** · 12-12-2007, 12:12 PM

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very true.. i was disappointed but im not trying to start a flaming war. thanks for your professional and mature response!

Movin_weight · 12-12-2007, 12:20 PM

i'v seen good feedback on the synergistic effect of both of them... guess i'm going to have to find out for myself here soon!

**Cellardude** · 12-12-2007, 03:47 PM

I must agree with the two very intellectual reps.

I myself have did not notice ANY benefits until day 10. The individuals who claim that they did not notice anything probably were doing 4 caps perhaps. I ran Drive at 6 caps and did not notice any immediate effects until day 10. You cannot base a product on the samples that the company provides. The sample is evaluate the energy levels of certian supplements like stims. Otherwise, you cannot judge something on a 2 day sample pack. I do not understand why people start saying things such as oh I didn't see anything when only buying a sample pack. Many other variables can influence the way an individual responds to these supplements such as diet,dosage and so on. If your going to take 4 caps per day until your bottle runs out while eating anything and everything you want, will you see any recomposition results? No.

moveweight · 12-12-2007, 03:55 PM

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I must agree with the two very intellectual reps.

I myself have did not notice ANY benefits until day 10. The individuals who claim that they did not notice anything probably were doing 4 caps perhaps. I ran Drive at 6 caps and did not notice any immediate effects until day 10. You cannot base a product on the samples that the company provides. The sample is evaluate the energy levels of certian supplements like stims. Otherwise, you cannot judge something on a 2 day sample pack. I do not understand why people start saying things such as oh I didn't see anything when only buying a sample pack. Many other variables can influence the way an individual responds to these supplements such as diet,dosage and so on. If your going to take 4 caps per day until your bottle runs out while eating anything and everything you want, will you see any recomposition results? No.

Hey man who said anything about a sample pack?? i used FULL bottles! Diet and training were on point. i train hard at fitness first 6 days a week.

**Cellardude** · 12-12-2007, 03:57 PM

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i'v seen good feedback on the synergistic effect of both of them... guess i'm going to have to find out for myself here soon!

you'll love it.

**Cellardude** · 12-12-2007, 04:03 PM

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Hey man who said anything about a sample pack?? i used FULL bottles! Diet and training were on point. i train hard at fitness first 6 days a week.

I was talking about BB.com

they seemed to base the effects of Drive on sample packs.

moveweight · 12-12-2007, 05:28 PM

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I was talking about BB.com

they seemed to base the effects of Drive on sample packs.

gotcha.. there idiots then

**bpmartyr** · 12-12-2007, 10:12 PM

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gotcha.. there idiots then

They're idiots. A contraction of they are.

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**strategicmove** · 12-13-2007, 03:45 AM

Yeah, I get your drive, BP. It can be fairly frustrating when ethically-minded companies spend countless hours assembling a potent blend with the highest-available extractions, testing different combinations and concentrations of the compounds, trying the products out with real athletes, refining the blend, redoing the loop again before finally releasing a product, only to see some people bash the product unfairly. A product that should take a week or longer to fully kick-in can not be fairly judged after two or so days (15 pills in the case of the chap at BB.com). Drive was not developed to function like V-iagra! Drive's effects are cumulative and the effects are long-lasting. Surely, if a product does not work (after full use), people should honestly say so. This is an important feedback for any company. At least the product would have received a fair chance before being judged. Enough said!