Is there value to taking rpm non workout days?

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    Is there value to taking rpm non workout days?


    Really the title says it all Just wondering if there are any benefits to taking it all the time.

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    Easy,

    Nice canines. There is a value to using RPM on non-workout days. Don't think of it as a pre-workout product: Think instead of it as an herbal anabolic product that also includes ingredients to make it suited perfectly for pre-workout use.

    I use it currently 2x/day on workout days, and 1x/day on non-workout days. (not all full doses)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane;
    ... There is a value to using RPM on non-workout days. Don't think of it as a pre-workout product: Think instead of it as an herbal anabolic product that also includes ingredients to make it suited perfectly for pre-workout use...
    You are basically referring to the cumulative effects of daily supplementation of RPM during the on-cycle, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    You are basically referring to the cumulative effects of daily supplementation of RPM during the on-cycle, right?
    Yes, RPM is not just a pre-WO product, so to get the test boosting effects, dose it daily. However, you will not need as high of a dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Easy,

    Nice canines. There is a value to using RPM on non-workout days. Don't think of it as a pre-workout product: Think instead of it as an herbal anabolic product that also includes ingredients to make it suited perfectly for pre-workout use.

    I use it currently 2x/day on workout days, and 1x/day on non-workout days. (not all full doses)
    Hmm so what kind of doses? 5 preworkout on totally empty stomach with an hr before anything else was a bit much, so i'm thinking 4 preworkout now, just less sure about post workout, or non workout days
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    Try 2 caps
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL;
    Hmm so what kind of doses? 5 preworkout on totally empty stomach with an hr before anything else was a bit much, so i'm thinking 4 preworkout now, just less sure about post workout, or non workout days
    I recall Applied rms80 recommending half training-day doses for non-training days in a different thread. Training-day doses should be pre-workout, not post. Preferably on an empty stomach. Just be sure you do not take any dose 5 or so hours before sleep, as this may make sleeping a rather challenging experience.
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    Wish they came in bigger bottles, or were more potent. Like 240 count, or so you only had to take 2-3pills pre workout and 1 on off days..

    Make it happen..lol
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    Non-workout days = 2 caps morning
    Workout days = 2 caps morning, 2 or 3 pre-workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Non-workout days = 2 caps morning
    Workout days = 2 caps morning, 2 or 3 pre-workout
    I am currently doing something similar:

    Non-Workout Days: 2 caps AM

    Workout Days: 1 cap AM, 1 cap around 3 pm, 3 or 4 caps around 5:30 pre-workout


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    I feel you on less caps being a good thing..... but in order to achieve effective levels of the ingredients to achieve results, they'd have to be big ol' capsules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Wish they came in bigger bottles, or were more potent. Like 240 count, or so you only had to take 2-3pills pre workout and 1 on off days..

    Make it happen..lol
    Wow - I only take 1 pre-workout. Went up to 3 before, but I was way too wired the whole day.

    And this coming from an ephedrine junky in university. Maybe that ResetAD is actually working...

    I'm looking forward to seeing the release of a non-stim RPM. Not sure how much "anabolic" use I'm getting out of 1 pill/workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunder View Post
    Wow - I only take 1 pre-workout. Went up to 3 before, but I was way too wired the whole day.

    And this coming from an ephedrine junky in university. Maybe that ResetAD is actually working...

    I'm looking forward to seeing the release of a non-stim RPM. Not sure how much "anabolic" use I'm getting out of 1 pill/workout.
    I got some reset coming myself.

    Ephedra CRACKS me out, so bad.. I am usually really sensative to stims. AMP made me feel great. I can take 5rpm and barely feel any stim effects. But get good workouts and sweat allot. But i still love my RPM..lol

    I am going to stop all stims, and run some reset ad, then try out rpm/drive stack, i think.
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    Just saw this on another thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    Good post- and if you want to REALLY maximize RPM- add a little L-tyrosine into that stack....
    I guess I forgot to add that I usually take Poseidon and BCAA's pre-workout too. Sometimes I add Power Drive or SizeOn or some other mild energy booster via amino acids, etc. That might be a factor. Never did take a full does of AMP either...I got me some virgin receptors! LoL

    I still sweat like crazy though - it feels great to be honest - arms are all glistening, lol. I sometimes wonder if other people look at me and wonder just what the heck I'm taking that I'm dripping sweat so much - but whatever. It makes me feel like I'm working harder, and probably does motivate me to work harder when it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunder View Post
    Just saw this on another thread:

    I guess I forgot to add that I usually take Poseidon and BCAA's pre-workout too. Sometimes I add Power Drive or SizeOn or some other mild energy booster via amino acids, etc. That might be a factor. Never did take a full does of AMP either...I got me some virgin receptors! LoL

    I still sweat like crazy though - it feels great to be honest - arms are all glistening, lol. I sometimes wonder if other people look at me and wonder just what the heck I'm taking that I'm dripping sweat so much - but whatever. It makes me feel like I'm working harder, and probably does motivate me to work harder when it happens.
    Same thing for me in regard to the sweating... I ran 3.5 miles today after my shoulder workout, and sweat was a steady stream down my arm, and flung off my elbows onto the treadmill screen and bottom / front of the treadmill.. The whole thing was pretty much soaked, and my tanktop underneath my cutoff was absolutely drenched... It was awesome =)

    If RPM were a girl.... I'd put it in her butt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magickk View Post
    If RPM were a girl.... I'd put it in her butt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magickk;
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    If RPM were a girl.... I'd put it in her butt
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    so it looks like i'll go with 4 pre-workout (with leviathan) and possibly 2 later in the day with leviathan again if i'm ready to pass out (GVT training is hard). and then 2 in the morning with leviathan non workout days. I'll have to rethink it when I start on cardio again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outside Backer View Post
    ive taken it every day since its birth
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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Wish they came in bigger bottles, or were more potent. Like 240 count, or so you only had to take 2-3pills pre workout and 1 on off days..

    Make it happen..lol
    Damn, you must really be into the stims. I take 1 right as I wake up and only 2 pre workout and that's good for me. I don't weigh all that much, maybe that's got something to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunder View Post
    Just saw this on another thread:

    I guess I forgot to add that I usually take Poseidon and BCAA's pre-workout too. Sometimes I add Power Drive or SizeOn or some other mild energy booster via amino acids, etc. That might be a factor. Never did take a full does of AMP either...I got me some virgin receptors! LoL

    I still sweat like crazy though - it feels great to be honest - arms are all glistening, lol. I sometimes wonder if other people look at me and wonder just what the heck I'm taking that I'm dripping sweat so much - but whatever. It makes me feel like I'm working harder, and probably does motivate me to work harder when it happens.
    I sweat quite a bit too, especially on back days. Some old lady was looking at me funny when I was doing close grip t-bar rows with 4 plates. That's not even that much compared to some people. Plus, I have a huge 2.3L water bottle that I put 10g bcaa and 5g Poseidon that I drink almost all of during my workout. That gets me some funny looks too but who cares.

    I'm also taking Reset AD 2x per day so I don't get too hooked on needing all the caffeine to be awake.
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    would it make any sense to take RPM during ur sleep. like when you wakeup in middle of night pop some rpm and continue sleep?

    i think during sleep taking supplements has most possible benefit im basing this on no facts just thought haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    would it make any sense to take RPM during ur sleep. like when you wakeup in middle of night pop some rpm and continue sleep?

    i think during sleep taking supplements has most possible benefit im basing this on no facts just thought haha.
    I think you'd probably wake up 1 hr later cause of the caffeine. I'd be Drive would be good to take at night though.
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    Icariin is also an anti-oxidant (great for liver health), PDE-5 inhibitor (lowers blood pressure), adaptogen (not labelled as one, but functions similarly to one), and a pro-SERM (metabolites block ER's).
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    I pretty much use RPM as an anti depressant. Self medication is bad, mmmk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelix View Post
    I pretty much use RPM as an anti depressant. Self medication is bad, mmmk?
    If you have a medical condition, there are proper supplements OR medications to take for such conditions. As much as RPM may improve your mood, there are much better ways and better supplements for dealing with depression.

    For example, I have been prescribed Ambien CR for anxiety induced insomnia, though I take and prefer GHB. I also take Relora for anxiety.

    I am not a fan of turning to one psychological method, whether it be psychoanalytical, behavioral, or what-have-you to treat an ailment, but I do believe that if you supplement with something that can help you cope and deal with your depressive tendencies, you can and will be able to live a normal life.

    People take drugs as an escape. Then they come down and they'd be lucky to be at square one (they mostly land on square zero). I don't reccommend a stimulant for self-medication of depression. That'd be like me suffering from depression and insomnia and jackin myself up on the E/C/A stack during the day and konking myself out at night with liquor.

    "My depression is cured from the E/C/A stack!!!! WOOO-WEEE- YIPEE TAE YAE YAY!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Icariin is also an anti-oxidant (great for liver health), PDE-5 inhibitor (lowers blood pressure), adaptogen (not labelled as one, but functions similarly to one), and a pro-SERM (metabolites block ER's).
    Good post...
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    Don't get me wrong, I understand how unhealthy it is.
    That said.
    I have been managing my own depression for a long time, it's seasonal and I mostly have a positive outlook on life, I do seek counselling, I'm not a fan of SSRI's or MAOI's in the long term due to there side effects.

    I do appreciate the warning though, just after many many years with the medical community I feel it is less stress to just do things my own way, which in it's self is empowering.

    I have good friends sanity checking me all the time :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    If you have a medical condition, there are proper supplements OR medications to take for such conditions. As much as RPM may improve your mood, there are much better ways and better supplements for dealing with depression.

    For example, I have been prescribed Ambien CR for anxiety induced insomnia, though I take and prefer GHB. I also take Relora for anxiety.

    I am not a fan of turning to one psychological method, whether it be psychoanalytical, behavioral, or what-have-you to treat an ailment, but I do believe that if you supplement with something that can help you cope and deal with your depressive tendencies, you can and will be able to live a normal life.

    People take drugs as an escape. Then they come down and they'd be lucky to be at square one (they mostly land on square zero). I don't reccommend a stimulant for self-medication of depression. That'd be like me suffering from depression and insomnia and jackin myself up on the E/C/A stack during the day and konking myself out at night with liquor.

    "My depression is cured from the E/C/A stack!!!! WOOO-WEEE- YIPEE TAE YAE YAY!"

    "Time for bed, let me pop open my 'Wild Turkey' supplement! Thank goodness for you, my insomnia is cured!"

    You're walking a dangerous path dude.
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    Hey Nelix, try some Relora for your seasonal depression. It's also good for the adrenals as well and you could stack it with RPM. Relora is great for ups and downs, and has been clinically documented to elevate DHEA levels by 228% (+ or -) and decrease morning cortisol levels by 37% at a daily dose of 250mg, 3 times per day. These tests were taken after 2 weeks of daily dosing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Hey Nelix, try some Relora for your seasonal depression. It's also good for the adrenals as well and you could stack it with RPM. Relora is great for ups and downs, and has been clinically documented to elevate DHEA levels by 228% (+ or -) and decrease morning cortisol levels by 37% at a daily dose of 250mg, 3 times per day. These tests were taken after 2 weeks of daily dosing.

    Thanks for the advice, I'll add some Relora to my cart :P
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