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Old 05-27-2007, 12:27 PM   #1
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Want a good stim-free product to stack w/ RPM?

Stack it with IGF-2!!!! It is phenomenal for workout endurance, and lean muscle gains!!!


Q: How does IGF-2 boost testosterone levels, and how does testosterone grow more muscle?
A: The safed musli componet of IGF-2 contains large amounts of spirosta-steroidal saponins (desoxydiosgenin, tigogenin and neotigogenin) which are intermediates to various hormonal pathways in the body. When ingested, desoxydiosgenin from the safed musli is enzymatically converted to 11-oxa-5 alpha-androstane-3,17-dione, a portion of which is converted to testosterone through the testes. The testosterone produced binds to the androgen receptor, which signals the muscles via mRNA to increase protein synthesis, increased nitrogen retention and muscle cell hypertrophy; leading to greater strength, mass, and recovery.

Q: How does the L-Dopa in IGF-2 help with testosterone production and growth hormone secretion?
A: The variety of mucuna pruriens used in IGF-2™ is standardized to 25% L-Dopa, delivering large amounts of this active ingredient per capsule. Two important mechanisms of action of L-Dopa is increased growth hormone (GH) release, and increased testosterone secretion through prolactin inhibition. Prolactin is a hormone that regulates testosterone production, and too much of it can hinder testosterone production. By inhibiting prolactin, IGF-2 increases endogenous testosterone levels dramatically. L-Dopa is a precursor to Dopamine, a potent GH and testosterone agonist, meaning that dopamine inhibits prolactin release and somatostatin secretion in the hypothalamus, which allows for a greater stimulatory effect of growth hormone-releasing hormone (GHRH) and secretion of testosterone by the testes. GHRH signals the pituitary to release GH, which is produced by the pituitary gland. GH is an important anabolic hormone that stimulates skeletal muscle cells to grow and, in some cases, divide. Acting directly, GH also mobilizes fats from fat depots and decreases the rate of glucose intake and metabolism.


Q: What anabolic and energy-enhancing actions does rhodiola rosea have?

A: Rhodiola rosea has been shown to increase ATP (Adenosine Triphosphate) production in the mitochondria of the cell. ATP is an energy molecule that allows for muscle contraction to occur. In a university study, mice were administered rhodiola and made to swim to exhaustion twice a day for six days. At the end of the testing period, muscle biopsies were performed, with the rhodiola-treated mice having 17% greater ATP levels, 45% greater creatine phosphate stores, and 53% greater muscle glycogen levels, along with lowered intramuscular concentrations of lactic acid and ammonia. What this means to you is stronger muscle contraction, allowing for improved energy and stamina.

In human studies, the rosavin and salidroside found in rhodiola rosea have also been shown to have significant effects on stress reduction. This is accomplished by reducing cortisol release, while optimizing levels of key brain chemicals involved in mood, such as serotonin and dopamine, which function together to maintain a healthy response to stress. Blocking cortisol is important, as cortisol tends to break down muscle tissue, increase body fat stores, slows the metabolism and lowers immune function. Rhodiola has been shown to have adaptogenic qualities, meaning that it allows humans to work harder during stress, while at the same time maintaining higher energy reserves.



Check this one out- awesome!!!
 



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Old 05-27-2007, 12:32 PM   #2
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awesome looking forwards to trying this
 
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I've got to try this with Neovar. I was very pleased with my sample bottle of Neovar and the samples of RPM. Have yet to try IGF-2 but this stack seems very intriguing to say the least. Many avenues of attack so to speak with strong synergy though out.
 



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Old 05-27-2007, 04:23 PM   #4
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I've got to try this with Neovar. I was very pleased with my sample bottle of Neovar and the samples of RPM. Have yet to try IGF-2 but this stack seems very intriguing to say the least. Many avenues of attack so to speak with strong synergy though out.
Yup- RPM stacks well with just about anything
 



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rms80, im been think since your been working on stim free RPM. could it be a good idea something like RPM fisrt thing in the morning and stim free rpm pre workout for us that workout late or are sensitive to stims

i know that stim free rpm is not ready and it still on the works but hehehe i been thinking alot about this
 



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rms80, im been think since your been working on stim free RPM. could it be a good idea something like RPM fisrt thing in the morning and stim free rpm pre workout for us that workout late or are sensitive to stims

i know that stim free rpm is not ready and it still on the works but hehehe i been thinking alot about this
Absolutely- that should be a really good protocol!!
 



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Old 05-27-2007, 04:56 PM   #7
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stack RPM with any of ur fav nootropic for a swell time as well
 




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stack RPM with any of ur fav nootropic for a swell time as well
i still have some liquibolics pea+hordenine, i might give it a try with RPM. i didnt like the p+h since it didnt do anything to me (except made my eyes move or feel like they moved really fast )i went up to 6 caps thats 1.5g PEA HCL and it wasnt nothing out of the ordinary . But honestly i found a greater confidense boost and good mood with RPM.
 



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Waiting to save up some money for RPM... Have an extra bottle of IGF2 I will wait to stack then I will post some feedback
 
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Strangely enough, I have lowered my IGF-2 to 2 pills pre-workout with my RPM and am having better results. This stack is rockin!
 
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can't wait to try igf-2 with RPM

I am currently stacking Activate with it (starting tomorrow) but will use IGF-2 with it down the line
 
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IGF-2 and RPM are an Amazing COMBO!! They work so FREAKING well together!
THis is how i have been using the 2

AM Dose
2 RPM
4 IGF-2

Pre-workout
5-6 RPM

Post workout
4 IGF-2

Before Bed
4 Igf-2
3 Lipo PM

This is Awesome if you guys can HANG!!
 



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IGF-2 and RPM are an Amazing COMBO!! They work so FREAKING well together!
THis is how i have been using the 2

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2 RPM
4 IGF-2

Pre-workout
5-6 RPM

Post workout
4 IGF-2

Before Bed
4 Igf-2
3 Lipo PM

This is Awesome if you guys can HANG!!
That looks really solid!

I'm excited to add IGF-2 to my RPM.
 
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IGF-2 and RPM are an Amazing COMBO!! They work so FREAKING well together!
THis is how i have been using the 2

AM Dose
2 RPM
4 IGF-2

Pre-workout
5-6 RPM

Post workout
4 IGF-2

Before Bed
4 Igf-2
3 Lipo PM

This is Awesome if you guys can HANG!!
Hi buffhunk29,

I know your June 2007 stack is probably outdated, yet I would like to know why there was no NeoVar in it. Was that intended? If yes, why? RPM + IGF-2 + NeoVar should be the ultimate, AN-recommended stack, right?
 

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Old 08-26-2007, 12:26 PM   #15
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Hi buffhunk29,

I know your June 2007 stack is probably outdated, yet I would like to know why there was no NeoVar in it. Was that intended? If yes, why? RPM +