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    I'm planning on starting Activate/RPM pretty soon. Real pumped for it.

    RMS- I think you should add dosing recommendations for off days, and what is necessary for the maximum effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhawk76 View Post

    RMS- I think you should add dosing recommendations for off days, and what is necessary for the maximum effect
    Ya definitely interested in this or is this for workout days only?

    Also in the writeup looks like there is a typo below "fir":

    Grape Seed Extract (specially extracted fir 98% Oligometric Proanthocyanidins)

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    How about other stack suggestions?

    Like:

    RPM/Mass Fx (with or without Hyperdrol/HD X2)
    RPM/Bad Ass Mass (with or without Jungle Warfare)

    Or RPM with an androgen.

    Like: (my favorite)

    RPM/Epistane
    IGF-2/NeoVar/RPM stack: awesome synergism w/o pro-hormones/pro=steroids!!!!!!! THE most effective non-steroid stack on the market (and also the best-kept secret )!!!

    -Huge elevation of T:E ratios and T:C ratios
    -Anti-catabolic
    -Large elevations in free testosterone and gh
    -Major increases in hardness and vascularity literally a "dry pump"
    -Phenomenal strength increases!!!!!
    -lipolytic
    -drastic improvements in body comp as well

    Try it and FEEL the difference!!!!!
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    Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
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    RMS, i got a question, i use stims for energy and a boost and not for fat loss primarily, meaning i don't take them everyday ubt they negatively affect my libido and sometimes i crash.

    How would using RPM as a stim/pick me up work, i think well and i could just buy extra RPM instead of stims. Just wanted ur thoughts on using it in this way along w/pre workout.
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    Also, i know i become tolerant to most stims and the effects diminish as i use it more and more, have the effects of RPM diminished some for u as u use it more or should they remain the same/have they?
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    Also, like someone else asked, id like to konw ur recommendation for dosing on off days if one wants to and how beneficial it would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manu20 View Post
    Also, like someone else asked, id like to konw ur recommendation for dosing on off days if one wants to and how beneficial it would be.
    Here is an answer from a different board


    Quote Originally Posted by rms80
    Yes, you can dose RPM in this manner and get great results (I would cut it by a 1/2 or 1/3 on days you don't train).... Remember the compound has acute effects such as PDE5 inhibition and rapid strength increases, but it also has an anti-catabolic effect, a strong lipolytic effect, and an anti-aromatase effect, all of which do take a little bit of time (at least 1 week) to manifest themselves...you will notice increases in hardness and a loss of body fat within the first 10 days or so.....
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    Awesome, thanks redhawk, just what i was looking for.
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    Im assuming that everyday dosing will also help w/libido too, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manu20 View Post
    Im assuming that everyday dosing will also help w/libido too, correct?
    Definitely!!
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    I got my 2 bottles today

    Gonna take 5 caps before bed and see what happens
















    LOL just playin, will try out 4 caps tomorrow I'm right around 220 so will see what tolerance is like
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    IGF-2/NeoVar/RPM stack: awesome synergism w/o pro-hormones/pro=steroids!!!!!!! THE most effective non-steroid stack on the market (and also the best-kept secret )!!!

    -Huge elevation of T:E ratios and T:C ratios
    -Anti-catabolic
    -Large elevations in free testosterone and gh
    -Major increases in hardness and vascularity literally a "dry pump"
    -Phenomenal strength increases!!!!!
    -lipolytic
    -drastic improvements in body comp as well

    Try it and FEEL the difference!!!!!
    I could help spread the word!
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    I could help spread the word!
    Absolutely!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by icey View Post
    I got my 2 bottles today

    Gonna take 5 caps before bed and see what happens
















    LOL just playin, will try out 4 caps tomorrow I'm right around 220 so will see what tolerance is like

    That would probably be pretty unpleasant!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    Absolutely!!!
    Right now I'm strongly considering not taking A.A.S anymore. There's so much natural stuff out that will give really good gains without HPTA suppression and liver toxicity, amongst other sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    Right now I'm strongly considering not taking A.A.S anymore. There's so much natural stuff out that will give really good gains without HPTA suppression and liver toxicity, amongst other sides.
    I tried pro hormones a few years ago before the ban and hated them. So many irresponsible companies were out to make a buck and just threw out outrageous claims and also did not educate their customers on possible side effects. I mean none of them mentioned things like post cycle therapy or aromatization (sp?), getting shut down, etc.

    At least with A A S you are most likely educated about how to use them.

    Good to see responsible companies pushing out herbals that are typically low on sides.

    Good luck with your decision bro I'm sure it will workout whatever you decide to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    Right now I'm strongly considering not taking A.A.S anymore. There's so much natural stuff out that will give really good gains without HPTA suppression and liver toxicity, amongst other sides.
    No ****!!

    You are about the same place I was a while back.....completely understandable- I am not anti-anabolic steroids by any stretch of the imagination- but I do think there are some great alternatives out there!!!!
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    I have read a few things about when you should dose RPM relative to when you eat. What do you guys think is best?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrestler119 View Post
    I have read a few things about when you should dose RPM relative to when you eat. What do you guys think is best?
    RPM is best dosed on an empty stomach
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    IGF-2/NeoVar/RPM stack: awesome synergism w/o pro-hormones/pro=steroids!!!!!!! THE most effective non-steroid stack on the market (and also the best-kept secret )!!!

    -Huge elevation of T:E ratios and T:C ratios
    -Anti-catabolic
    -Large elevations in free testosterone and gh
    -Major increases in hardness and vascularity literally a "dry pump"
    -Phenomenal strength increases!!!!!
    -lipolytic
    -drastic improvements in body comp as well

    Try it and FEEL the difference!!!!!
    i am new to using t-boosters and the like but as of recently i have been following along on this board and others and trying to learn as much as i can. i am debating using a stack like this. i'm just worried about the effects coming off of this. previously i've just been using creatine/no/bcaa products. do you guys think an rpm stack would be more effective for building lean mass than say a controlled labs stack with green magnitude/purple wraath/white blood. i need to buy now and that's what i'm debating. thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtstone View Post
    i am new to using t-boosters and the like but as of recently i have been following along on this board and others and trying to learn as much as i can. i am debating using a stack like this. i'm just worried about the effects coming off of this. previously i've just been using creatine/no/bcaa products. do you guys think an rpm stack would be more effective for building lean mass than say a controlled labs stack with green magnitude/purple wraath/white blood. i need to buy now and that's what i'm debating. thanks

    RPM/IGF-2 will be extremely effective- with no PCT required- it will give you some fantastic lean mass gains!!!
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    I have a bottle of white blood that I want to use soon. It says that I should take a serving of it 30-45 min before workout. Can I stack this with RPM or are they too similar and be overkill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptrain19 View Post
    I have a bottle of white blood that I want to use soon. It says that I should take a serving of it 30-45 min before workout. Can I stack this with RPM or are they too similar and be overkill?
    You can take them together, but start small....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    RPM is best dosed on an empty stomach
    Its recommended on an empty stomach, do u recommend eating after u take it preworkout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manu20 View Post
    Its recommended on an empty stomach, do u recommend eating after u take it preworkout?
    I have heard of people doing this- and they said it still works just fine
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    Why does RPM contain arginine rather than norvaline or one of the more bioavalable forms of arganine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelix View Post
    Why does RPM contain arginine rather than norvaline or one of the more bioavalable forms of arganine?
    I messed with the formula a bunch- and found Arg. base was the best way to go (we used it in both betas and the formulas worked well(- it may get changed in the near future though- I found a way to make RPM even better

    Great question!!!!
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    Thanks for the open reply!

    I am mighty sick of secret undocumented supplements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelix View Post
    Thanks for the open reply!

    I am mighty sick of secret undocumented supplements.
    That's not how we operate
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    Has there been any reports of prostate difficulties with this supplement? From time to time I suffer from flareups when I overuse stimulants, so I could see that taking this product twice daily might cause me problems in that regard.

    What is the approximate amount of caffeine per cap in RPM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by max silver View Post
    Has there been any reports of prostate difficulties with this supplement? From time to time I suffer from flareups when I overuse stimulants, so I could see that taking this product twice daily might cause me problems in that regard.

    What is the approximate amount of caffeine per cap in RPM?
    No- but I have heard of ephedrine causing some issues like that- but not necessarily caffeine- I will look around some more for you.

    As for the approximate amt. of caffeine- the naringin in RPM completely changes the pharmacokinetics of everything in the compound- so even though the dosage of caffeine is relatively moderate in RPM- it will "feel" much higher than normal....
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    i too have had minor prostate issues in the past nothing a DR said was an issue. some very good stims caused the issue

    Non ever on rpm


    ive also taken it with food as someone has asked and I didnt notice any difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    As for the approximate amt. of caffeine- the naringin in RPM completely changes the pharmacokinetics of everything in the compound- so even though the dosage of caffeine is relatively moderate in RPM- it will "feel" much higher than normal....
    I'm quite used to the effects of naringin on caffeine, as I always have a grapefruit in my pre-workout meal, which is followed by a caffeine containing stimulant product. I'm more interested in an approximate caffeine amount so I can make an educated guess as to what my maximum RPM dose would be, based on ability to sleep and tolerance to caffeine.
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    I've been trying RPM for the last week, and it's certainly working very well as a stimulant for me.

    I'm confused about one thing from the FAQ, though. It says:

    "RPM does NOT require post cycle therapy b/c it works through secondary characteristics (AI effect, effects on SHBG, effects on T:E and T:C ratio)"

    This suggests that RPM doesn't directly interact with androgen receptors. But then in two other places it talks about testosterone-mimetic properties:

    "RPM resides in a completely new product category of its own: It is an A-CESE (Anabolic-Cognitive Energy System Enhancer) with P-SARM (Phytochemical Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator) characteristics. This means that the product that exhibits testosterone-mimetic, anti-catabolic, and aromatase-inhibiting properties"

    "To be considered a SARM (selective androgen receptor modulator), a compound must have the following characteristics:
    Stimulate increases in strength and fat-free mass through testosterone mimetic properties,
    Support bone growth
    Maintain and / or restore sexual function and virility
    Orally bioavaliable
    Does not effect blood pressure or blood lipids.
    RPM fits every one of these criteria for a SARM."


    Surely these statements are contradictory? If it only acts indirectly via stimulation of natural testosterone production, it cannot also be considered a testosterone mimetic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris View Post
    I've been trying RPM for the last week, and it's certainly working very well as a stimulant for me.

    I'm confused about one thing from the FAQ, though. It says:

    "RPM does NOT require post cycle therapy b/c it works through secondary characteristics (AI effect, effects on SHBG, effects on T:E and T:C ratio)"

    This suggests that RPM doesn't directly interact with androgen receptors. But then in two other places it talks about testosterone-mimetic properties:

    "RPM resides in a completely new product category of its own: It is an A-CESE (Anabolic-Cognitive Energy System Enhancer) with P-SARM (Phytochemical Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator) characteristics. This means that the product that exhibits testosterone-mimetic, anti-catabolic, and aromatase-inhibiting properties"

    "To be considered a SARM (selective androgen receptor modulator), a compound must have the following characteristics:
    Stimulate increases in strength and fat-free mass through testosterone mimetic properties,
    Support bone growth
    Maintain and / or restore sexual function and virility
    Orally bioavaliable
    Does not effect blood pressure or blood lipids.
    RPM fits every one of these criteria for a SARM."


    Surely these statements are contradictory? If it only acts indirectly via stimulation of natural testosterone production, it cannot also be considered a testosterone mimetic?
    Good question- and no, not contradictory Certain parts of the formula DO act indirectly on factors influence the test:est ratio and test:cortisol ratio, and certain parts (icariin specifically) do have testosterone mimetic properties. Icariin has displayed testosterone mimetic properties on enhancing bone mass, as an anti-depressant, as a PDE5 inhibitor, and as a glucocorticoid antagonist (competes for the same receptors as cortisol). That being said- ALL of the receptors that icariin effects and their mechanisms of action have not been thoroughly researched- but icariin has been documented to have at least SOME testosterone mimetic effects....

    Asian J Androl. 2006 Sep;8(5):601-5. Epub 2006 Jun 5
    The testosterone mimetic properties of icariin.
    Zhang ZB, Yang QT.

    Department of Urology, Second Affiliated Hospital, Shantou University Medical College, Shantou 515041, China. zbzhang@stu.edu.cn

    AIM: To evaluate the testosterone mimetic properties of icariin. METHODS: Forty-eight healthy male Sprague-Dawley rats at the age of 15 months were randomly divided into four groups with 12 rats each: the control group (C), the model group (M), the icariin group (ICA) and the testosterone group (T). The reproductive system was damaged by cyclophosphamide (intraperitoneal injection, 20 mg/kg x day) for 5 consecutive days for groups M, ICA and T, at the sixth day, ICA (gastric gavage, 200 mg/kg x day) for the ICA group and sterandryl (subcutaneous injection, 5 mg/rat . day) for the T group for 7 consecutive days, respectively. The levels of serum testosterone, luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), serum bone Gla-protein (BGP) and tartrate-resistant acid phosphatase activity in serum (StrACP) were determined. The histological changes of the testis and the penis were observed by microscope with hematoxylin-eosin (HE) staining and terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase biotin-dUTP-X nick end labeling (TUNEL), respectively. RESULTS: (1) Icariin improved the condition of reproductive organs and increased the circulating levels of testosterone. (2) Icariin treatment also improved the steady-state serum BGP and might have promoted bone formation. At the same time, it decreased the serum levels of StrACP and might have reduced the bone resorption. (3) Icarrin suppressed the extent of apoptosis of penile cavernosal smooth muscle cells. CONCLUSION: Icariin has testosterone mimetic properties and has therapeutic potential in the management of hypoandrogenism.
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    I'm sure this has been asked and answered, so feel free to link me to the right location.

    I'm going for a recomp and already am using DCP and Camphibolic, along with Powerfull. I want to add in another product to help potentiate fat loss and provide a little kick, and RPM sounds like that product. But it says to just take prior to workout. I want the fat burning affects, so can I take 1 dose in AM and 1 dose in PM (I workout at 7pm)?

    What would be the optimum dosing to help burn fat while retaining muscle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCbuilder View Post
    I'm sure this has been asked and answered, so feel free to link me to the right location.

    I'm going for a recomp and already am using DCP and Camphibolic, along with Powerfull. I want to add in another product to help potentiate fat loss and provide a little kick, and RPM sounds like that product. But it says to just take prior to workout. I want the fat burning affects, so can I take 1 dose in AM and 1 dose in PM (I workout at 7pm)?

    What would be the optimum dosing to help burn fat while retaining muscle?
    DC,

    Huge apology for taking so long to get back to you. What you have outlined above will work amazingly... however, I caution you to start by taking your PM dose a little earlier than just preworkout, to make sure you can get to sleep ok.

    If you aren't on RPM yet, start with a smaller than recommended dose in the AM, followed by the recommended dose at least/about 5-6 hours before you plan on laying down to sleep. From there, you can increase, and possibly move your PM dose closer to pre-workout.

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    That sounds good. One additional question: Would it be safe to work Leviathan into the process? I know it says not to take other stims around RPM. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCbuilder View Post
    That sounds good. One additional question: Would it be safe to work Leviathan into the process? I know it says not to take other stims around RPM. Thanks.
    RPM and Leviathon work EXTREMELY well together
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    Thanks. I'll give this combo a try.
  

  
 

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