Lipotrophin-PM™ Frequently Asked Questions

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Well, which comes first: deep sleep>gh release, or GH release>deep sleep? I thought L-Dopa affects GH directly, though?

    Anyway, eating right before bed is bad for GH release
    Better sleep comes from greater GH release.

    Honestly, your training at that time and then wanting to go to bed when you do is NOT ideal if you are to use Lipotrophin-PM the most effectively. But, it's up to you.


  2. For sure, I just don't have a choice. You'd be surprised if I gave you my schedule. Ugh
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    For sure, I just don't have a choice. You'd be surprised if I gave you my schedule. Ugh
    Probably not. Considering the schedule I used to keep and am trying to get back into again!

  4. Almost prep time...gettin that shipment of Lipo PM in

  5. Would it be alright to take Neovar and Lipotrophin-pm at the same time with both containing banaba extract?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by robster11 View Post
    Would it be alright to take Neovar and Lipotrophin-pm at the same time with both containing banaba extract?
    Yes. Sometimes I double-dose NeoVar Recomped at night pre-bed; which is when I also dose Lipotrophin-PM.

    However, given the timing of the dosing required for each product, they generally would NOT be dosed together: Lipotrophin-PM only needs to be dosed once daily (and this is usually last thing at night), but can also be dosed first thing in the morning; and NeoVar Recomped should be dosed post-resistance/anaerobic training, and 15-20 minutes prior to a meal (preferably containing at least 50g of carbohydrates).

  7. Can I take LipoPm and ZMA at the same time? Thanks

  8. The mucuna pruriens in lipotrophin-PM is standardised to 25% or 75% l-dopa? In all websites it says 25% but the bottle I bought says 75% :s Am i that lucky lol ? I d appreciate it if you could answer me, thanks.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by yamkas View Post
    The mucuna pruriens in lipotrophin-PM is standardised to 25% or 75% l-dopa? In all websites it says 25% but the bottle I bought says 75% :s Am i that lucky lol ? I d appreciate it if you could answer me, thanks.
    It's 75% - all of them are the same.

    ~Team APPNUT

  10. Thanks for the quick reply, I was under the impression that lipotrophin was 25% and HGHup 75% (at least thats what most of the websites say). So, what s the difference in terms of mucuna quantities in these two products? Does HGHup contain more (per capsule)? For restfull sleep and fat loss purposes which one would you choose? Thank you in advance!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by yamkas View Post
    Thanks for the quick reply, I was under the impression that lipotrophin was 25% and HGHup 75% (at least thats what most of the websites say). So, what s the difference in terms of mucuna quantities in these two products? Does HGHup contain more (per capsule)? For restfull sleep and fat loss purposes which one would you choose? Thank you in advance!
    If you read the ingredient profiles, then you can see the % of L-Dopa used - don't believe everything you read, unless it is on the product in front of you. Both Lipotrophin-Pm and HGHup♂ contain Mucuna Pruriens standardized to 75% L-Dopa. Because each product is a proprietary blend, I cannot tell you specific quantites of Mucuna Pruriens in each - but take a look at the ingredient profiles of each closely.

    Lipotrophin-PM and HGHup♂ are two VERY DIFFERENT products - you can tell this, simply by reading about each product - and cannot be compared. Both work well for improving sleep and fat loss, so you could use either.

    As you already know, Lipotrophin-PM is a STAPLE for me - but I use it for the deeper, better quality sleep, and not for fat burning.


    ~Team APPNUT

  12. What is the max dose/day? This product reminds me of camphabolic from USP, and I took it during the day and at night. I have 1 bottle. I plan to take 3/night (200 lbs). Can I also take 3 mid-morning? about 1 hr after and 2 hrs before food?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by DCbuilder View Post
    What is the max dose/day? This product reminds me of camphabolic from USP, and I took it during the day and at night. I have 1 bottle. I plan to take 3/night (200 lbs). Can I also take 3 mid-morning? about 1 hr after and 2 hrs before food?
    Lipotrophin-PM only needs to be dosed ONCE daily: pre-bed - with the heaviest bodyweight dosing at 3 caps. You could take 3 caps in the morning if you like, but it's really not necessary, and if you DO dose in the morning, I would recommend having only 1-2 caps. Re maximum dosage, I definitely do not recommend exceeding 6 caps daily.

    ~Team APPNUT

  14. Is the L-Dopa in Lipotrophin pm enough to block or reduce Prolactin?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Dirk will have to answer this.

    ~Rosie~
    That would be nice.

  16. Is it better to take an anti-depressant like Zoloft at night with the Lipo-Pm? (Since Dopamine is being released), or should I take Zoloft earlier during the day? I started taking Lipo-PM two days ago, but have been on Zoloft for about two months now.

    I'm just trying to figure out why I keep waking up around midnight and then having the hardest time falling back to sleep... sometimes hours.

    Although I do feel well rested and full of energy in the morning.

    Any advice would be most appreciated

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Beast20 View Post
    Is it better to take an anti-depressant like Zoloft at night with the Lipo-Pm? (Since Dopamine is being released), or should I take Zoloft earlier during the day? I started taking Lipo-PM two days ago, but have been on Zoloft for about two months now.

    I'm just trying to figure out why I keep waking up around midnight and then having the hardest time falling back to sleep... sometimes hours.

    Although I do feel well rested and full of energy in the morning.

    Any advice would be most appreciated
    If you are using Zoloft - regardless of when you are dosing it - you should NOT be using Lipotrophin-PM (or anything else with L-Dopa in)!

    ~Rosie~

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    If you are using Zoloft - regardless of when you are dosing it - you should NOT be using Lipotrophin-PM (or anything else with L-Dopa in)!

    ~Rosie~
    Thanks for letting me know Rosie! Is it because of the serotonin?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Beast20 View Post
    Thanks for letting me know Rosie! Is it because of the serotonin?
    No worries No, it is not because of the serotonin, but the the L-Dopa (as mentioned) - the L-Dopa can increase the potential for harsh side effects of Zoloft.

    ~Rosie~

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    If you are using Zoloft - regardless of when you are dosing it - you should NOT be using Lipotrophin-PM (or anything else with L-Dopa in)!

    ~Rosie~
    Curious to your reasoning to this Rosie

    Zoloft is a SSRI which can deplete dopamine, serotonin and/or catecholamine. Mucuna can help towards balancing the neurotransmitters and increase dopamine.

    Interested to hear you reasoning Rosie, I must be misunderstanding something or overlooking something here because I see no reason why the two can't be taken together.

    But I would tend to agree with you and not mix pharma medications with herbal supplementation without first consulting my psychian.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Curious to your reasoning to this Rosie

    Zoloft is a SSRI which can deplete dopamine, serotonin and/or catecholamine. Mucuna can help towards balancing the neurotransmitters and increase dopamine.

    Interested to hear you reasoning Rosie, I must be misunderstanding something or overlooking something here.

    But I would tend to agree with you and not mix pharma medications with herbal supplementation without first consulting my psychian.
    Re post #46: "L-Dopa can increase the potential for harsh side effects of Zoloft." To explain this, L-Dopa can counteract against Zoloft and vice versa, creating side effects which have not yet been studied, and this recommendation is made as a precaution because of the uncertainty of stacking them, with the individual's health and well-being in mind. That said, ANY time you're dealing with chemicals that affect the brain, you should ALWAYS err on the side of caution, IMO.

    ~Rosie~

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Re post #46: "L-Dopa can increase the potential for harsh side effects of Zoloft." To explain this, L-Dopa can counteract against Zoloft and vice versa, creating side effects which have not yet been studied, and this recommendation is made as a precaution because of the uncertainty of stacking them, with the individual's health and well-being in mind. That said, ANY time you're dealing with chemicals that affect the brain, you should ALWAYS err on the side of caution, IMO.

    ~Rosie~
    It's a good thing I decided to ask about this. I'm taking zoloft as a trial from my physician to see if it helps with mild depression, but I didn't feel any better. Sleep on the other hand and natural GH release is way more important for my longterm goals!

    If I decide with my physician discontinue Zoloft, would it be fine to take Lipotrophin-PM even throughout bulking PH cycles?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Beast20 View Post
    It's a good thing I decided to ask about this. I'm taking zoloft as a trial from my physician to see if it helps with mild depression, but I didn't feel any better. Sleep on the other hand and natural GH release is way more important for my longterm goals!

    If I decide with my physician discontinue Zoloft, would it be fine to take Lipotrophin-PM even throughout bulking PH cycles?
    If you're NOT using Zoloft you're fine using Lipotrophin-PM, even if using hormonals.

    ~Rosie~
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