RPM or Leviathan Reloaded
- 04-05-2010, 01:20 PM
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- 04-05-2010, 08:52 PM
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- 04-06-2010, 12:48 AM
You could still stack both RPM and Leviathan Reloaded with all that, although, unless you've used each product before, it's a little overkill, and you may not know what is actually having what effect on you.
Also, personally, I would recommend dropping the CLA - you're getting your good fats through flaxseed oil.
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Think like a Champion. Train like a Warrior. Live with a Purpose. - 04-06-2010, 01:21 AM
If you are cutting, then I would definitely recommend RPM & leviathan Reloaded together. Both offer a nice libido boost, Both offer increased energy (thermogenic properties), both work great. I think they would play to your benefit combined to be honest. Look around, I'm pretty sure someone has done a RPM & Leviathan Reloaded log around here somewhere...
- 04-06-2010, 02:51 AM
I had great sucess with old levi formula. I havent tried the new one but have my doubts. RPM it top notch preworkout. kinda hard to dose but my choice when im off creatine.
- 04-06-2010, 08:28 AM
[QUOTE=Rosie Scott;2375025]You could still stack both RPM and Leviathan Reloaded with all that, although, unless you've used each product before, it's a little overkill, and you may not know what is actually having what effect on you.
Also, personally, I would recommend dropping the CLA - you're getting your good fats through flaxseed oil.
~Team APPNUT[
Ok so stick with flax, rpm, and LR then? Cause I do not want to overkill. Reason is, I'm just coming out of. 6 wk cycle of hdrol..I'm actually into my 4th wk of otc pct, that consist of...recycle, inhibit e, lean xt, and activate (ran out of act so ordered testo pro). I'm running a 6 wk pct, so I have 2 wks left. And after I wanted to "bridge" the cycle a little but more on a cut cycle. That's why I'm adding all these supps. U think I should wait and take 4 wks off, then run a cut? Or should I bridge it? - 04-06-2010, 08:34 AM
- 04-06-2010, 08:42 AM
- 04-06-2010, 09:52 AM
- 04-06-2010, 11:35 AM
- 04-06-2010, 10:13 PM
My time when I was using them together last year is in my 2009 Training/Supplementation Journal.
You could have mentioned that earlier. That changes things a little, and in that case, stay with what you have (excluding CLA). I would recommend using the RPM now during PCT, and once your PCT is finished (i.e. in 2 week) use the Leviathan Reloaded, and drop the Inhibit-E.
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Think like a Champion. Train like a Warrior. Live with a Purpose. - 04-07-2010, 01:51 PM
Perfect advice rosie..thanks. yea, I should've mentioned it earlier lol. Just started tappering down on inhibit-e to one pill..this is my last week on inhibit e. For the next 2 wks, I'm running testo pro and rpm, including the flax and cla. Then will run LR after pct like you said to do...quick question (I have so many lol sorry) I want to run a non hormonal stack to boost HGH and insulin since I'm on a TKD, slin or glycobol would be perfect on carb loading phases...is it okay to run it after pct is over or wait about 4-8 wks before fooling with any hgh/insulin type of products? This is part Of my cutting phase but want to add lean mucsle at the same time. Thanks for everything..I'm learning a lot
- 04-07-2010, 07:59 PM
As I said, you don't need the CLA.
You can start using a Growth Hormone booster and insulin mimetics whenever you want - and could have been using during PCT. Since you're close to the end of your PCT, I suggest just adding them in when you start Leviathan Reloaded.
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Think like a Champion. Train like a Warrior. Live with a Purpose. - 04-07-2010, 11:32 PM
- 04-08-2010, 01:21 AM
- 04-09-2010, 11:10 PM
RPM IMO is very underated in regards to a thermo, I sweat like crazy when on it ( Gym/PT and even walking around ) in regards to leviathan, it does sound like a good combo, I absolutely loved the original leviathan and am not impressed with the re-vamped ( for the 3rd time ) version.
RPM is the best Thermo/ pre-wo product period !!! - 04-10-2010, 01:40 AM
can u explain the differences? ive taken 2nd version which worked great. ive heard the 1st one was really good too. im weary about the 3rd based on diff ingrediants. how was ur experience diff with the 3rd one.
- 04-11-2010, 09:20 AM
I just ordered rpm 2 days ago (hopefully by tues I'll have it) but yea, great reviews, can't wait to try it out. I'm planning doing levianthan but a little skeptical about stacking it with another stim pro like rpm. However, I have non-stim alternatives, like lean xt or reduce xt, might do reduce since the ingredients are the same of the original LX...then throwing in a HG product..I'm ready for this summer lol
- 04-12-2010, 04:08 PM
Didn't feel it one bit, there where slight difference between the OG leviathan and the reloaded for example the OG I just felt a good dose of energy between the Caff,YHCI and the trib, it didnt suppress my appetite persay but I felt disciplined not to eat crap foods and plus my metabolism felt on fire. The reloaded I got the same feeling but a little more of the YHCI rush and it completely destroyed my appetite and I have a strong feeling it was due to the combination of acacia rigidula, PEA and YHCI.
The 3rd one just didn't do squat and it didn't pan out nor has the new RAD, I've been a loyal customer of PA labs since it's birth and I'm sorry to say that I'll will never buy another product from them again, it's just a damn shame that there products don't do what they used to do for in terms of effectiveness. I've said it time and time again but why discontinue or revamp a new and improve product that has already proven an effective track record, I call bull - 04-12-2010, 04:29 PM
Just to clarify and since this is in the Appnut thread ( which I feel that this thread should have initially been posted in the supplement thread ) that I'm not trying to smear the reputation of PA labs, they're a very innovative company and the OG Leviathan was one of the best Stims I've ever used, however being just a consumer and not in the business of marketing or product formulation I can't put myself in there shoes in regards to the directive they decided to go.
Appnut is a fantastic company and the reason why I will keep on using there products is simple, When I first bought a bottle of RPM to try out a year ago I noticed that there was a label/ingredient misprint, there was no L-arginine listed so I emailed Don and asked him why he took it out. I got a quick reply back and first off was told that I have a good eye as well as there was a label misprint and that Arginine is in it and I thought cool and thought nothing of it. An hour later I got another email from Don saying that another bottle RPM is on it's way courtesy of Applied Nutra. So I had a alot of RPM to last me awhile - 04-15-2010, 09:32 AM
Lol wow..that's pretty sweet man..got u 2 months worth. Yep, so I popped 3 rpm pills an hr prior to workout, I didn't feel the instant rush but during the workout, I was so focus and energy levels were through roof, that did not want to stop working out, so I stopped after 2hrs of lifts..I did not want to burn muscle. So far so good, can't wait til later and see what today brings..I have quads and calves today, so I'm definitely going to need that extra push lol
- 04-23-2010, 01:58 PM
Ok so, I've been on RPM of exactly a week @ 4 caps a day. So far is been great, I normally take it @ 2pm, 2hrs after lunch and my lunch is usually, 96% lean ground turkey, 1 cup steamed broccoli, 1 tbsp natural PB, and 1 cup of salad (no dressing). Since is a low carb lunch, after 2 hrs I'm ready for rpm. Rpm doesn't kick in right away, however it hits me 45mins after taking it. My energy levels is good, not jittery at all, is smooth and sense of well-being in the gym, I can literally workout for hrs..it seems that my workouts is goes by fast, without even knowing. but the biggest attribute is my focus and pumps. Focus is through the roof, I just put my head phones on, touch screen Imusic on my phone, click on linkin park and ready to roll man lol. Pumps are amazing as well but I love the fact that it doesn't gives me a "bloated" pump like other preworkouts, it just gives me a hard/vascular pump that'll last even after cardio sessions and usually, ill look a bit depleted after cardio bc of a,, the water/sweat and not to mention I do cardio, after my training sessions that last about 1hr 30mins...so rpm keeps me pumped. Strength is also good, notice a bit more reps on my lifts, especially on squats. I decided not to stack another fat burner with rpm, bc rpm is really cutting me!...of course I eat and train right but its Definitely helping, I dropped about .5% body fat in a wk...that's amazing and while maintaining my weight. If I had to rate it now, is definitely a 10/10 for me bc my body is responding great to it. This is by far the best preworkout I've tried. Only con of rpm, is its delayed kick lol, wish it kicked in Immediately but other than that, is one of my favortie ALL time products already lol. Great job APNUT!.
I'll write a final review a few wks later and point out any changes good or bad. Til next time, later.....and 1 more hr before RPM and workout! Whew!
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