HGH UP vs IGF-2 ; differences etc.

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  1. Where is dirk? I see nobody ever answered this kids question, and I am very eager to know the answer to his question.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Skeletor View Post
    This just came to me, and I'ld like some feedback. I've seen that it is recommended that HGH-Up be taken without carbs to avoid an insulin spike. Has anybody tried taking HGH-Up along with glucose disposal agents? I guess in theory, this would lower bloodsugar ensuring that minmal amounts of insulin would be released, or minmal amounts of glucose would be present in the blood at the time of adminstration (if taken prior to) when the product is taken with a meal. (thereby futher ensuring no insulin spike) I understand no carbs or whey. Now what about taking HGH-Up on and empty stomach with glucose disposal agents? Does any think, or can anybody answer if this would help increase the effectiveness of the product? My perfered GDA's are chromium polynicotinate and vanadyl sulfate.

    So my hypothesis, based on what I've read and you guys at APNUT suggest, is that GDA's could increase the effectiveness of the product.

    Maybe you guys at APNUT could run a study with bloodwork showing the different effects the product has when taken with carbs, without carbs, and when taken with glucose disposal agents as stated above.

    Just some thoughts.
    I've used HGHup with (and without) nutrient repartitioners/insulin mimics - made no difference to me as far as effects. Others may be different - very likely, since my body does not respond to most things as "expected". As far as whether or not it would make HGHup more effective, I don't know - Dirk or someone else more knowledgeable may have to answer that.


    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    Where is dirk? I see nobody ever answered this kids question, and I am very eager to know the answer to his question.

    Dirk is a busy man and he gets in and answers when he can. If you want a faster response, either email or PM him.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    Where is dirk? I see nobody ever answered this kids question, and I am very eager to know the answer to his question.
    Here are a couple key points which separates IGF-2 and HGHup

    1. Rhodiola Rosea increases creatine deposition and has some strong adapatogenic qualities, so IGF-2 has an advantage over HGH-Up when stacked with Neovar, especially for mass gaining. For this reason, IGF-2 seems to also be a little better for recovery as well.

    2. HGH-Up definitely has an advantage over IGF-2 in terms of fat-reducing qualities because of the addittion of LCLT and green tea extract.

    Hope that helps
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  4. THANKS!! Honestly man that is what i was waiting to hear. So i can conclude that IGF-2 is better for bulking, and HGHup is better for recomp/ lean bulk

  5. Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    THANKS!! Honestly man that is what i was waiting to hear. So i can conclude that IGF-2 is better for bulking, and HGHup is better for recomp/ lean bulk
    Either can be used for either goal, honestly. IGF-2 is great for gains or recomping, whereas most use HGHup is they're looking more for "cutting" (it can still be used for gains, though). Just depends on the individual - I will use IGF-2 every time, period, but others are different.

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  6. So is igf 2 better for bulking or is hghup about the same. I am bulking right now and would like to get this. I can get hghup at the store but would have to order the igf. I am almost 18 and I want to gain weight. I wouldnt mind losing a little fat. But I don't want to cut

  7. Quote Originally Posted by cg123 View Post
    So is igf 2 better for bulking or is hghup about the same. I am bulking right now and would like to get this. I can get hghup at the store but would have to order the igf. I am almost 18 and I want to gain weight. I wouldnt mind losing a little fat. But I don't want to cut
    It depends on the individual - the guys here say IGF-2 more for gaining mass and HGHUp more for leaning, but both work fine either way as long as your NUTRITION AND TRAINING are targeted at your goal. You're 18 - forget about getting either product and focus on the BASICS!

    At your age, you don't need any supplements but the Basic Staples (creatine, multivitamin, good fats, protein, and BCAAs) to gain mass and strength - you're already using them (I would recommend getting yourself a multivitamin if not already using one). I don't recommend using anything else but these basic staples until you are older and have built up a solid training base - NUTRITION AND TRAINING are what are going to get you results!

    If you want gains, then you need to eat enough for them, and no supplement is going to help you gain muscle if you're not eating for it, period! NUTRITION and TRAINING are the two factors that you need to focus on. FOOD, FOOD, and MORE FOOD is going to be IMPORTANT - if you want muscle gains, you needs to EAT for it!

    Next to nutrition for mass is training. You have to be training correctly for mass - check out the article How To Maximize Mass Through Weights And Adaptation for an idea of how to train correctly for mass. And although The Essential 8 is in the fat loss section, the same exercises that are best for fat loss are also the best for gaining muscle! You also need to get adequate recovery, since it's in your RECOVERY that you GROW (if you are eating enough).

    Whether you recomp (i.e. gain muscle whilst losing some bodyfat) will depend primarily on your NUTRITION, and usually only those who KNOW what they're doing can achieve a recomp at will (or the beginner just starting out training, since it is something they are not used to), so if you want that, then I recommend that you have a nutrition plan (especially nutrition, since that's what is going to make or break your success!) AND training programme written specifically for YOU for your goals and needs. If you can't afford a professional trainer, then take some time out to research and look around, because there is a TON of information on nutrition and training for mass/recomp!

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  8. Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    Where is dirk? I see nobody ever answered this kids question, and I am very eager to know the answer to his question.
    cause people ask the same question over and over.
    Performax Labs Product Specialist

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