- 11-04-2009, 10:12 AM
- 11-04-2009, 10:17 AM
Yes you could! It actually sounds like a great combination to me. Which AI will you be using? I would suggest going with HGHup, sustain, and toco8 only so you don't over do it.
- 11-04-2009, 10:37 AM
I was going to go with Formestane but if its not needed I will leave it out
Would it also be ok to keep using C-Bolic (Coleus Forskohlii) I do not see why not but figured I would asked
11-04-2009, 10:44 AM
Coleus Forskohlii is great stuff, it tends to offer noticeable leaning effects for me, but HGH up should also contribute leaning effects. That is up to you, but I see no issues in adding it. I just prefer the "more is not always better" approach.
11-04-2009, 11:03 AM
11-04-2009, 11:04 AM
Sustain Alpha along with Toco-8 and HGH Up is a fine stack indeed. The only thing I might add would be third part of the TRS...EndoAmp Max.
There is no need for an AI for your stack if your using Sustain Alpha.
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11-04-2009, 11:05 AM
11-04-2009, 05:03 PM
11-04-2009, 05:45 PM
11-04-2009, 07:35 PM
I had a couple of questions too and rather then start another "HGHup question" thread I thought I would ask here:
1) How long before taking HGHup is the soonest you can eat and still get maximum effects?
2) How long after taking HGHup is the soonest you can eat and not interrupt or blunt the effects?
3) Is there anything in HGHup likely to cause a low blood sugar attack during working out and if so can a mid workout slight carb drink (like gatorade) be taken to stave off the low blood sugar nausea?
11-04-2009, 07:47 PM
2. At least 2 hours.
3. If you used an insulin mimetic alongside HGHup♂ and did NOT eat then that could cause it, but there is nothing in HGHup♂ that would cause low blood sugar. If you have a drink containing carbohydrates during your training session, then you are defeating the purpose of using HGHup♂ pre-workout, as carbohydrates and insulin render it ineffective.
11-04-2009, 08:03 PM
So .....I guess the stack fo both GH potentiators is too much. I am wondering if dosing each 2 times per day but at separate times may provide the maximum GH stimulation with limited interaction???
11-04-2009, 08:12 PM
Use either HGHup♂ or GHenerate, but NOT together!
On another note, how do you know that it was the products that cause low blood sugar (especially as neither product will cause a decrease in blood sugar)? Look at other factors, such as time of training in relation to your last meal or carbohydrate intake, etc.
11-04-2009, 08:19 PM
with regard to the combining of the GH stimulators......I will take your advise but I was just wondering if you might elaborate on what the risk might be.....?
11-04-2009, 08:22 PM
11-04-2009, 08:33 PM
It is UNnecessary to use more than one at once.
Risks come as a results of having too much Growth Hormone in the body and the degree to which they can present depend upon the individual. Negative effects, or "risks" of having too much Growth Hormone in your body include but are not limited to: 1) An increased risk of developing cancer, especially breast, colon, and breast cancer; 2) Can cause the development of metabolic disorders such as diabetes and insulin resistance; 3) Can cause problems with the heart, kidneys, and other organs; and 4) Speeding up the aging process.
11-04-2009, 08:39 PM
11-04-2009, 08:40 PM
11-04-2009, 08:41 PM
11-06-2009, 02:13 PM
Can HGH-up be stacked with 11-oxo for cortisol modulation? or is it best to keep these 2 products on different runs
11-06-2009, 03:44 PM
11-06-2009, 04:21 PM
11-06-2009, 06:08 PM
would formex be ok to take along with hghup?
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11-06-2009, 07:59 PM
11-06-2009, 08:04 PM
11-09-2009, 05:12 PM
Hey guys, just wondering how much Mucuna Pruriens is in HGHUp relative to IGF-2 or LipoTrophin AM/PM? Don't have to state exact amounts of course, just 'more' or 'less' is cool
BTW the Sustain Alpha, Toco-8, EndoAmp and HGHUP stack would actually rock...
11-09-2009, 06:18 PM
11-10-2009, 03:25 PM
11-10-2009, 07:13 PM
11-11-2009, 11:52 AM
What is AN standpoint on this ? My question is the first quote followed by 2 responses. I am on Day 3 of HGHup and was intested in adding pre-max preworkout but didnt want to hinder any of the HGHup product which I also take 20 min prior to workout
11-12-2009, 10:50 AM
11-12-2009, 05:31 PM
11-12-2009, 05:34 PM
11-12-2009, 06:07 PM
"Just came up with some additional dosing schedules based on the half-lives of the different compounds in HGH-Up- you can see if these work better for you....
Huperzine-A has a half-life of about 4 hours, while l-dopa has a half-life of about 90 minutes. You can use this to your advantage with your dosing schedule- for your pre-workout dosage- it can be taken up to 4 hours before the workout between meals, and you can take in an additional meal before the workout. If you time it right you may be able to get two GH surges- one before the pre-workout meal and one during. It would work something like this if you work out at 5 pm:
7 am- breakfast (meal 1)
9 am- another meal (2)
12 pm- lunch (3)
1 pm- dose HGH-Up on what is now a low-insulin state (2-4 capsules)
2:45-3:15 pm- max GH levels will occur due to L-dopa challenge (given 90 minute half-life and 20 minute disintegration time of capsules)
4 pm- eat again
5 pm- train- Huperzine-A levels, which inhibit somatostatin, will be peaking right at this time, so this will maximize GH and T levels during the workout- remember, product boosts testosterone and the number of androgen receptors as well as GH
6:30 pm- eat normal post-workout meal
9 pm- dinner
10:15 pm- take pre-bed dose of HGH-Up (2-3 capsules)
12 am- GH peak that occurs due to L-Dopa challenge
2:15 am- secondary period of increased GH that occurs due to longer half life of Huperzine A and its effects on somatostatin inhibition
This is theoretical- but the product should work quite well in this manner, and you can tailor your eating and training around this with no dietary restrictions. Just take the times given and adjust them to your schedule accordingly......."
11-12-2009, 06:27 PM
11-12-2009, 06:46 PM
11-19-2009, 04:36 AM
Just wondering, seems to be on topic with all the AI questions:
What are the thoughts of combining low dose atd (25-50, to avoid libido loss and hopefully not crush estrogen completely) and HGHUP? I read a few posts regarding atd reducing GH substantially, but can't seem to find a lot of solid info. If this is the case (GH lowering effect of atd), would this seriously hinder the effects of HghUp or just minimally (would it effect hghup's ability to work as intended)?
Also, does a stoked/hghup combo seem pretty solid?
The trifecta? Hghup/stoked/atd?
This would not be part of pct.
11-19-2009, 06:37 AM
11-19-2009, 01:22 PM
Thanks for the quick response, I understand HghUp is non-hormanal and that an AI is not necessary. Do you believe that adding an AI such as ATD is beneficial? Would the test boosting effect go far beyond that of hghup alone (or hghup w/ stoked) w/o negatively impacting hghup's effects?
I read something regarding why atd didn't work as well as some thought it would, and it was posited that possibly low gh could be part of this. While I didn't see a study backing this up (and additionally it's not very fun searching here for 2 and 3 letter compounds) , if this were the case, and if hghup's way of working wasn't effected somehow by the atd, then i thought it could be a pretty good combo.
11-19-2009, 04:28 PM