The One - Cycle Support?

[someonehs]

Hello Everyone,

I'm contemplating doing a run of The One as my first PH, but need to do a bit more research first (get diet up to part too)... From what I've read (so far) its not THAT harsh of PH (but 2nd gear is needed)... is it necessary to add some cycle support while on it? I was (and probably will anyways to be on the safe side) going to to preload AI's cycle support for a couple of weeks before, then continue for a couple of weeks after... comments?

 

[dg806]

Since it is a methylated product, it is a good idea to take liver and lipid protection. Cycle support is an excellent product for this and I think you will like it. You can never tell how harsh a substance is on your liver until it is too late. Hopefully someone that is logging this will take baseline vaules and values right after they finish to see how the one affects these values.

 

[Steveoph]

Great radio interview on The One with Dirk if you're taking this product. http://www.superhumanradio.com/mp3/player.htm

He mentions 2-3g Omega 3's, AntiOxidants, and some Milk Thistle if you want, but not absolutely necessary.

 

[someonehs]

perhaps you could get away with a lower dose of cycle support then, say 1 scoop per day?

I'm taking orange triad, so I would assume that has me covered for anti-oxidants. Maybe throw in some extra vit c.

 

[Aeternitatis]

I think most people are way overdoing the cycle support stuff. Personally, I'd run milk thistle for a few weeks pre-cycle then through PCT. Other than that, maintain a very clean diet, do cardio, and take fish oil.

 

[Steveoph]

perhaps you could get away with a lower dose of cycle support then, say 1 scoop per day?

I'm taking orange triad, so I would assume that has me covered for anti-oxidants. Maybe throw in some extra vit c.

Yea, Vitamin C, Green Tea, Grapeseed Extract, ALA, are great anti-oxidants. AppNut released BioMend which would get the job done quite nicely.

A lower dose of CS would be fine.

 

[TheHunter516]

Steveoph thank you for the link to the radio show. great info on the product. sounds amazing.

 

[Steveoph]

Steveoph thank you for the link to the radio show. great info on the product. sounds amazing.

Yea I actually listened to the entire thing, it went surprisingly fast and learned some new things :thumbsup: I had already pick up The One + 2nd Gear, but it was worth listening to.

 

[TheHunter516]

i agree. i listened to the whole show myself. great info.

 

[Rosie Chee]

Hello Everyone,

I'm contemplating doing a run of The One as my first PH, but need to do a bit more research first (get diet up to part too)... From what I've read (so far) its not THAT harsh of PH (but 2nd gear is needed)... is it necessary to add some cycle support while on it? I was (and probably will anyways to be on the safe side) going to to preload AI's cycle support for a couple of weeks before, then continue for a couple of weeks after... comments?

Definitely do the research (a good place to start is post #2 at http://anabolicminds.com/forum/applied-nutriceuticals/115936-one.html; questions and answers are strewn thoughout these threads).

Cycle Support, as Joel said is a little overrated. Already mentioned are the milk thistle, antioxidants, fish oils, a decent multivitamin, and the staples sould be enough for PCT. However, since it's your first cycle, if you want to be safer, then it's up to you.

...Hopefully someone that is logging this will take baseline vaules and values right after they finish to see how the one affects these values.

Hormones, liver function and kidney function are part of the bloods that some of the loggers will be having done (it really should have been a requirement of ALL the sponsored loggers).

 

[FitFinley]

Cycle Support, as Joel said is a little overrated. Already mentioned are the milk thistle, antioxidants, fish oils, a decent multivitamin, and the staples sould be enough for PCT. However, since it's your first cycle, if you want to be safer, then it's up to you.




Hormones, liver function and kidney function are part of the bloods that some of the loggers will be having done (it really should have been a requirement of ALL the sponsored loggers).

How would one fair in your expert opinion IF one was to pick up T.O. and 2nd Gear and take it with the AN Bio-Mend, Omega Essentials and Complete Balance following dosing per label instructions and add a bottle of milk thistle. Maintaining the vitamin supply through the cycle and PCT.

 

[Rosie Chee]

How would one fair in your expert opinion IF one was to pick up T.O. and 2nd Gear and take it with the AN Bio-Mend, Omega Essentials and Complete Balance following dosing per label instructions and add a bottle of milk thistle. Maintaining the vitamin supply through the cycle and PCT.

Should be fine. You SHOULD be taking a multivitamin, antioxidant, and good fats throughout the cycle (and after) as it is, since they ARE staples.

 

[WhatsaRoid?]

I understand where your coming from saying cycle support is overated but its a proven product that works. I would think its not a bad idea to take it year round as I do. That said I would recommand if your worried about your health while on cycle to pick up a bottle and put your fears to rest.

 

[dmichael949]

what about anabolic extreme..i got that through planetary nutrition

 

[Aeternitatis]

It should also be noted that the Saw Palmetto found in many support supps will inhibit gains to a significant degree.

 

[max silver]

What can be used for prostate support/protection while on cycle if saw palmetto is inadvisable?

 

[Aeternitatis]

What can be used for prostate support/protection while on cycle if saw palmetto is inadvisable?

There's nothing that will do what saw palmetto does without inhibiting gains. But lycopene and nettle root are good for general health.

 

[EasyEJL]

What can be used for prostate support/protection while on cycle if saw palmetto is inadvisable?

I think the thought here is that prostate support/protection is fine for the 10-11 months of the year you aren't on cycle, but will lower gains by some amount while on cycle. Theres good evidence that Saw Palmetto can bind with androgen receptors, so it can lower gains. Nettle root may or may not help, its kind of wishy washy from studies.

If you have specific reason (high PSA, already diagnosed with BPH, etc) to need prostate support, then probably using any external androgen isn't a great idea

 

[cmc]

I started my cycle of The One using AI's cycle support, then pretty much stopped using it towards the end of week two. Here are my blood tests at the close of the cycle:
Total Bili .3
Dir bili <.1
alk phos 54
alt (sgpt)23
ast (sgot) 23
ggt 14
urea nitr 14
creatinine 1.5
uric acid 3.9
calcium 10.4
phosphorus 3.8
total prot 7.8
albumin 4.3
triglycer 93
chlolest 126 low
ck 109
sodium 141
potassium 4.6
bicarb 27.7
chloride 101
Fasting glucose 80

Hematology and differential
hgb 14.8
hct 46
rbc 5.2
mcv 89
mch 29
mchc 32
rbc morph normocytic
wbc 6.51
neutrophil 4.26
lymphocyte 1.79
monocytes .35
eosinophil .08
basophils .04
platelets 334

hgb a1c 4.9
All in normal range.