[neogoku]

Hi, i'm Yves (from Belgium) and it's my first post
I train 4 days / week at 7pm. I'm 33 years old, 1.80m for 76Kg.
1.80 meters = 5.91 feet
76 kilograms = 167.55 pounds
I hope to hit 85Kg.
85 kilograms = 187.39 pounds
I use now some products of Universal :
In the morning with meal : Animal Pak and Real Gain Protein.
In the evening : Animal Flex
Directly after the training, Animal Nitro.
During the training : Universal Storm
I have finished the use of 2 weeks of Animal Cuts and i will now
try the famous Universal Zero-G with 7-keto.
My questions is
Can i stak M-stak and Stak together with Zero-G ?
If yes, how and when ?

Thx for your replies...

[nevaTOObig]

hey bro, another animal amongst us...

i dont see a problem with stacking those 3 products... i would take stak 30 mins before u lift, take mstak with your nitro after your done and take zero G when you wake up and then again later in the day...

it sounds like a pretty good stack bro.

[neogoku]

Thx for your reply.
M-stak contains 500mg of caffein and co...
Do you really think that's a good idea to take it after my training
on 20.30pm ?
Is it not better to take it 4 hours before my training and before Animal Stak ?

@+

[B Con]

Originally Posted by neogoku

Hi, i'm Yves (from Belgium) and it's my first post
I train 4 days / week at 7pm. I'm 33 years old, 1.80m for 76Kg.
1.80 meters = 5.91 feet
76 kilograms = 167.55 pounds
I hope to hit 85Kg.
85 kilograms = 187.39 pounds
I use now some products of Universal :
In the morning with meal : Animal Pak and Real Gain Protein.
In the evening : Animal Flex
Directly after the training, Animal Nitro.
During the training : Universal Storm
I have finished the use of 2 weeks of Animal Cuts and i will now
try the famous Universal Zero-G with 7-keto.
My questions is
Can i stak M-stak and Stak together with Zero-G ?
If yes, how and when ?

Thx for your replies...

First off what are your goals? To me it sounds like you are geared toward cutting by using a Keto diet and and just finishing Cuts. A lot of people have even combined Cuts and Zero G for a great fat burning stack as well.

You can certainly stack M Stak, Stak, and Zero G altogether. However, if you are training late at night, which I believe you mentioned in a later post, it may not be optimal to take a caffeine product so close to your bed time as it may interfere with your sleep. In this case, you could just split up the doses around when you wake up and mid day.

IMHO, I wouldn't stack M stak with any fat burning supplement as M Stak is geared toward partitioning nutrients, building mass, and more along the lines of bulking. While you can still use it during a cut, I do not think you will get the most benefits from it while undergoing a calorie deficit as with M Stak you definitely will need to EAT.

Stak is a great test booster which could help you in a form of "recomp" when used in conjunction with a great diet and training.

[crzyyoungn]

I got nothing out of M-stak... Not to say it won't work for you but that's my experience.

[B Con]

Originally Posted by crzyyoungn

I got nothing out of M-stak... Not to say it won't work for you but that's my experience.

Sorry to hear that C.

[crzyyoungn]

Originally Posted by B Con

Sorry to hear that C.

Yeah, i guess not everyone responds to everything. I've heard of quite a few people that had good things to say about it though. And, Animal has a money back guarantee which says a lot about a company. Too bad I threw away my bottle of M-stak before I found about it. I'm guessing that disqualfies me from a refund/exchange.

Either way that alone would make me confident about trying their products despite the fact that I didn't respond to this one.

[B Con]

Originally Posted by crzyyoungn

Yeah, i guess not everyone responds to everything. I've heard of quite a few people that had good things to say about it though. And, Animal has a money back guarantee which says a lot about a company. Too bad I threw away my bottle of M-stak before I found about it. I'm guessing that disqualfies me from a refund/exchange.

Either way that alone would make me confident about trying their products despite the fact that I didn't respond to this one.

I was just about to inquire into this for you... but we can't do anything without the bottle and so forth. Hope you understand.

How it works, for in the future, if you have this problem is to contact where you bought it from for the refund. If they don't cooperate, then you contact one of the reps on here and we will help you out.

What was your diet like on it?

[B Con]

Originally Posted by neogoku

Thx for your reply.
M-stak contains 500mg of caffein and co...
Do you really think that's a good idea to take it after my training
on 20.30pm ?
Is it not better to take it 4 hours before my training and before Animal Stak ?

@+

500 mg of caffeine?

M-Stak has a proprietary blend of an "energy complex" which is 500 mg that contains over 4 different ingredients including caffeine. Therefore no one knows the exact amount of caffeine in the product besides the product designers, but I can tell you all 500 mg is not caffeine alone.

If I were lifting late at night, I would take both M stak and Stak before training. I would do the M stak first around 45-50 minutes before training and then the Stak around 35-30 minutes before training.

I would leave the "red" stim pill of M Stak in to see how I reacted that night. If I had trouble sleeping or so forth afterwards, simply take out the "red" pill and you will be good to go.

I wouldn't think it would have much use taking it after lifting that light at night.

[crzyyoungn]

Originally Posted by B Con

I was just about to inquire into this for you... but we can't do anything without the bottle and so forth. Hope you understand.

How it works, for in the future, if you have this problem is to contact where you bought it from for the refund. If they don't cooperate, then you contact one of the reps on here and we will help you out.

What was your diet like on it?

Yeah I figured that was the case and it's cool.

My diet/workout were spot-on and I was making gains consistently before and throughout my M-stak run but hoping on th M-stak didn't make a noticable difference.

[B Con]

Originally Posted by crzyyoungn

Yeah I figured that was the case and it's cool.

My diet/workout were spot-on and I was making gains consistently before and throughout my M-stak run but hoping on th M-stak didn't make a noticable difference.

I guess its just one of those supps that is hit or miss with people. No appetite changes? I was hungry as a mofo on that stuff

[crzyyoungn]

Originally Posted by B Con

I guess its just one of those supps that is hit or miss with people. No appetite changes? I was hungry as a mofo on that stuff

Nope. But I've heard that it does that to a lot of people.