How to build an Animal Stack

[MrDead]

Watching...

You actually know a little bit about it...

[Hoomgar]

You actually know a little bit about it...

Me? Know about mad stacking? eh eh eh

[bigjoe3636]

can animal cuts be uset with NO explode? last time i did i thought my heart was going to blow...also after being on animal cuts for about 2 weeks i had some chest pain and stopped...is this normal?

[rcrott1]

Any new Animal stacks out there?

here is my combo stak for right now..

AM
Pak
Omega
Flex
Trib Pro
NSC

Preworkout
BA9
NSC
GH Max
Trib Pro

Intra
EAA Stack

Postworkout
OKG
EAA Stack w/ 50g simple carbs

Before Bed
Omega
GH Max
ZMA
Trib Pro

[Hoomgar]

can animal cuts be uset with NO explode? last time i did i thought my heart was going to blow...also after being on animal cuts for about 2 weeks i had some chest pain and stopped...is this normal?

That is a lot of stims for anyone. Yes you could cause yourself some health problems if you keep pounding stims like that. I would never take 2 heavy stim products at the same time. Cuts is a thermo so it is going to be high in stims and from what I've read NO Explode is one of the highest stim loaded pre-workout products you can get.

Be careful with what you put in your body bro. Doing that was the equivalent of drinking several pots of strong coffee everyday. That is not good for your heart. A little stims is fine but all things in moderation man.

Any time you are not sure the best time to ask is before you use something. You can always run it past us here, send us a PM or an email... or if that isn't getting you a fast answer you are always welcome to call corporate and ask. Our number is available on our web site. We always want consumers to be informed about their supplement choices.

Glad to hear you are OK now. Hit me up any time you need info my man.

Hg

[MrDead]

Workout Days
1st thing in the morning: 1st dose of "M"
With 1st meal: Pak
1 hour after 1st meal: 1st dose of "I"
1 hour after 3rd meal: 2nd dose of "I"
45 min before workout: 2nd dose of "M", Shock Therapy, Storm, and the only dose of "N"
Intra Workout: Intra Aid and EAA Stack
Post Workout: Torrent
After whole food meal following workout: 3rd dose of "I"

Non Workout Days
Everything stays the same, but no Torrent, Intra Aid, or EAA Stack...

"M"=M-Stak
"I"=Iso-stack
"N"= Natural Sterol Complex

I've also now added BCAA Stack into the mix, now, as well... So, we have a nice steady flood of Aminos, Sterols, Flavones, and Sterones is what this basically amounts to... Plus the re-introduction of creatine and 100g more carbs into my system, to help amplify all the gains from my rebound from the contest prep... So, I'm doubling the daily dose of M-Stak and adding the normal 3 doses of Iso-Stack for the Sterones and Flavones... Regular dose of Natural Sterol Complex, for the Sterol side of the house...

[MrDead]

Pak
Test
M-Stak
Real Gains (Cookies-n-Cream...)
EAA Stack (Juicy Watermelon...)
BCAA Stack (Lemon lime...)
Intra Aid (Citrus...)
Torrent (GAA...)
Flex
Shock Therapy (Grape...)
Storm (Grape...)

[Ricky5145]

I gained 40 pounds in 5 months since i switched from ON to using animal/universal products.

I started at 200 lbs and went to 215 on Pak, Flex, and M-stak.
I went from 215 lbs to 230 on Pak,flex, Test, Nitro, Shock therapy,and ZMA
I went from 230 to my current 240.6 on Pak, omega, flex, nitro, M-stak and its only been two weeks in.

Incline went up 40 lbs
flat went up 50 lbs
BB curl went up 50 lbs
squat went up 70 lbs
Db military press went up 60 lbs

rediculous... Animal boy for life.

[Hoomgar]

I gained 40 pounds in 5 months since i switched from ON to using animal/universal products.

I started at 200 lbs and went to 215 on Pak, Flex, and M-stak.
I went from 215 lbs to 230 on Pak,flex, Test, Nitro, Shock therapy,and ZMA
I went from 230 to my current 240.6 on Pak, omega, flex, nitro, M-stak and its only been two weeks in.

Incline went up 40 lbs
flat went up 50 lbs
BB curl went up 50 lbs
squat went up 70 lbs
Db military press went up 60 lbs

rediculous... Animal boy for life.

Excellent results bro. No doubt that you tireless dedication to the pursuit of growth is the core reason for your progress. Keep doing what you've been doing man.

Hg

[Ricky5145]

Thanks man, I appreciate that

[King Con]

Thanks man, I appreciate that

That is incredible results/feedback R.

Anyone else have some good quality stacks they are running right now?

[WarMachine000]

I've been using Animal supps for 6 years now, on and off. Currently I am on the new Animal Stak (AS2), but it doesn't feel the same as the old one. Also, Cuts are different I've noticed.
Anyways, I've never taken Animal Test. What would one compare it to (product-wise, if possible)? Is there a need for a PCT, or are the effects negligible to hormone levels? Thanks in advance!

[Ricky5145]

I've been using Animal supps for 6 years now, on and off. Currently I am on the new Animal Stak (AS2), but it doesn't feel the same as the old one. Also, Cuts are different I've noticed.
Anyways, I've never taken Animal Test. What would one compare it to (product-wise, if possible)? Is there a need for a PCT, or are the effects negligible to hormone levels? Thanks in advance!

Animal Test does not require a PCT. I ran a 42 cycle of it and it really didnt do much for me. My diet was to a T and so was my trainning, I took the supp as directed and I honeslty go better results with just M-stak by itself. Im sure if i were in my 30's this product would have done more for me but since im 21 it didnt really do much if any at all. Id compare it to taking a trip product( i know there not the same but the idea of being hopefull when taking it is the same). Im not knocking the product because as i said if i were older it would prob do its job. I personally feel its not made for those of us in our 20's. are natural test is high already so with out ph's, pro steriods, and steriods there isnt really much thats going to make an insane difference in gains. However, there was one product i took/take that i do feel makes a difference in my test levels even though its natuarl. The main ingredient is raw orchic concentrate. aka raw testicle. sounds disgusting but in all honesty the stuff is off the hook. Its worked better then the Ph cycle i just did. I mentioned the ingredient to one of the guys at ANIMAL so im hoping one day theyll use it (doubtful). soon after i started taking it i got acne on my shoulders and back, new hairs started to grow on my upper back and shoulders ( only a few but new mind you) and my weight and lifts went up. Nothing insane but notible. either way, i didnt mean to steer off course here but i would recommend m-stak over test but that is only my opinion to take in concideration. Hope you find something that works for you.

[WarMachine000]

Ricky5145- Thanks for the response. I've tried every "Animal" they make, except for MStak, Test, and Pump (and the new PM). Also, I recently started using Superpump250, and like it more than others I've tried (I used NOXplode about a year ago), but am debating using Shock Therapy in about a month or so (I really like Universal's products, and haven't been let down yet)
That sucks about the Animal Test, especially since it's probably the most expensive supp they produce! The raw orchic would be cool- as long as it's not really raw! haha

Thanks again, Ricky!

[Ricky5145]

Ricky5145- Thanks for the response. I've tried every "Animal" they make, except for MStak, Test, and Pump (and the new PM). Also, I recently started using Superpump250, and like it more than others I've tried (I used NOXplode about a year ago), but am debating using Shock Therapy in about a month or so (I really like Universal's products, and haven't been let down yet)
That sucks about the Animal Test, especially since it's probably the most expensive supp they produce! The raw orchic would be cool- as long as it's not really raw! haha

Thanks again, Ricky!

no prob man, I love shock therapy but to be fair ive never had superpump250 and have only heard good things. Im a UNIVERSAL guy so i only steer away when i have to, like for whey (Universals whey is $$$$, and i dont care if its better im in college and i need cheap whey haha). I feel as a whole ALL the companies need to lower their prices. I feel like their high just because they know they can get away with it because the consumers are there and willing. I understand they're all running buisnesses but i just dont like that some companies try to act like our hommies and bros and act like their looking out for us BUT make us pay BANK for their stuff and making BANK themselves. My bro wouldnt make me pay bank, he'd hook me up. In reality all you really need is Proper Nutrition, Proper trainning, rest, and the real deal if thats the size your going for. Regular supps arent going to bust us through out natuarl limits when it comes to holding muscle. But thats not what everyones going for so when it comes to fufilling natural potential alot of supps are helpful but not enough for the price their being sold for. I could go on but Im going to stop myself. I love sups and I love how fun they can be but being short on money, and knowing that these companies are ripping me off doesnt sit well in my stomach.

[King Con]

I've been using Animal supps for 6 years now, on and off. Currently I am on the new Animal Stak (AS2), but it doesn't feel the same as the old one. Also, Cuts are different I've noticed.
Anyways, I've never taken Animal Test. What would one compare it to (product-wise, if possible)? Is there a need for a PCT, or are the effects negligible to hormone levels? Thanks in advance!

When did you run the old Stak?

Cuts has been reformulated and is more potent IMHO from its previous release.

Animal Test is my bread and butter. Seriously, I love it. No, you do not need a PCT for AT as it's all natural... it's a complete test booster meaning it also has anti-estrogen complexes as well. It also features Arachidonic Acid which is going to be used to induce hypertrophy. The only thing I would recommend with AT is not taking anything that reduces inflammation, i.e. IB Profen, and so forth. And if you are eating a diet really high in EFAs I'd probably cut those down a tad as well.

Animal Test does not require a PCT. I ran a 42 cycle of it and it really didnt do much for me. My diet was to a T and so was my trainning, I took the supp as directed and I honeslty go better results with just M-stak by itself. Im sure if i were in my 30's this product would have done more for me but since im 21 it didnt really do much if any at all. Id compare it to taking a trip product( i know there not the same but the idea of being hopefull when taking it is the same). Im not knocking the product because as i said if i were older it would prob do its job. I personally feel its not made for those of us in our 20's. are natural test is high already so with out ph's, pro steriods, and steriods there isnt really much thats going to make an insane difference in gains. However, there was one product i took/take that i do feel makes a difference in my test levels even though its natuarl. The main ingredient is raw orchic concentrate. aka raw testicle. sounds disgusting but in all honesty the stuff is off the hook. Its worked better then the Ph cycle i just did. I mentioned the ingredient to one of the guys at ANIMAL so im hoping one day theyll use it (doubtful). soon after i started taking it i got acne on my shoulders and back, new hairs started to grow on my upper back and shoulders ( only a few but new mind you) and my weight and lifts went up. Nothing insane but notible. either way, i didnt mean to steer off course here but i would recommend m-stak over test but that is only my opinion to take in concideration. Hope you find something that works for you.

Thanks for the honesty R. IMHO, test boosters don't have that much of effect on anyone at 21. Test levels are already high during that time... normally I don't even recommend test boosters unless the user is in his mid-twenties at least... so that may have had something to do with your results. I'd say try it again down the road after a few years my man. And stack it with Animal Stak

We listen to any and all consumer feedback, so I'm sure your suggestion was duly noted. Never know what the future may hold.

M Stak is definitely a great product and one I always highly recommend.

Ricky5145- Thanks for the response. I've tried every "Animal" they make, except for MStak, Test, and Pump (and the new PM). Also, I recently started using Superpump250, and like it more than others I've tried (I used NOXplode about a year ago), but am debating using Shock Therapy in about a month or so (I really like Universal's products, and haven't been let down yet)
That sucks about the Animal Test, especially since it's probably the most expensive supp they produce! The raw orchic would be cool- as long as it's not really raw! haha

Thanks again, Ricky!

Oh man thanks for the constant support WM. Let us know when you try those products.

In regards to Shock Therapy, it works like a direct kick of energy. Serious. I love it, especially when I've taken off of stims and then ease my way into some Shock Therapy.

Keep an open mind about AT, as everyone has different results. Personally, I love the stuff and have always made great gains while using it. I've put on size and managed to take inches off my waist with it EVERY time. It's like a recomp product for me.

no prob man, I love shock therapy but to be fair ive never had superpump250 and have only heard good things. Im a UNIVERSAL guy so i only steer away when i have to, like for whey (Universals whey is $$$$, and i dont care if its better im in college and i need cheap whey haha). I feel as a whole ALL the companies need to lower their prices. I feel like their high just because they know they can get away with it because the consumers are there and willing. I understand they're all running buisnesses but i just dont like that some companies try to act like our hommies and bros and act like their looking out for us BUT make us pay BANK for their stuff and making BANK themselves. My bro wouldnt make me pay bank, he'd hook me up. In reality all you really need is Proper Nutrition, Proper trainning, rest, and the real deal if thats the size your going for. Regular supps arent going to bust us through out natuarl limits when it comes to holding muscle. But thats not what everyones going for so when it comes to fufilling natural potential alot of supps are helpful but not enough for the price their being sold for. I could go on but Im going to stop myself. I love sups and I love how fun they can be but being short on money, and knowing that these companies are ripping me off doesnt sit well in my stomach.

Amen. Nutrition/Training > Everything else.

Thanks for your kind words as always R. Hope all is well brother.

[WarMachine000]

B Con - wow, man, you put some serious time into that post-- lots of props! I appreciate your time and patience!
The last tiime I took Stak? November 2008. Maybe I'll give Test it's day in court- you never know until you try, but aside from cost of money, there is cost of time. I'm not naive, nor do I expect miracles overnight, but a month or two makes a difference. I do wish companies had a loyalty or reward program- you give a company hundreds of dollars, you get a shirt or coupon. Been loyal a few years but feel a product wasn't up to hype, get a refund or partial maybe.
idk- It's just tough sometimes. I wish I could find the real deal around here haha.
Do you have a list of what each ingredient on Test does, and if so, post it. If not, no worries. That's what the internet is for, right?
Thanks again!

[Ricky5145]

I do wish companies had a loyalty or reward program- you give a company hundreds of dollars, you get a shirt or coupon. Been loyal a few years but feel a product wasn't up to hype, get a refund or partial maybe.
idk- It's just tough sometimes. I wish I could find the real deal around here haha.

we must be on the same wave length becuase i was thinking the same thing. I want to run s upplement company where i would have consumers and then MEMBERS. Members would be people who only use that brand, support is and rock it. theyd get the stuff for 1/2 the price to consumers would because there standing completely behind that company and getting the name out there. Id hook the members up with all kinds of discounts etc..To make them feel like there wanted and a part of it instead of replaceable like the average consumer. I think that idea would make BANK and SAVE bank for alot of people.

[King Con]

B Con - wow, man, you put some serious time into that post-- lots of props! I appreciate your time and patience!
The last tiime I took Stak? November 2008. Maybe I'll give Test it's day in court- you never know until you try, but aside from cost of money, there is cost of time. I'm not naive, nor do I expect miracles overnight, but a month or two makes a difference. I do wish companies had a loyalty or reward program- you give a company hundreds of dollars, you get a shirt or coupon. Been loyal a few years but feel a product wasn't up to hype, get a refund or partial maybe.
idk- It's just tough sometimes. I wish I could find the real deal around here haha.
Do you have a list of what each ingredient on Test does, and if so, post it. If not, no worries. That's what the internet is for, right?
Thanks again!

That's what I'm here for WM. I agree... it definitely takes time and it takes maximum effort to be put in for you to really get the optimal results. I'll be honest and say if you really can't put forth your best efforts in the time, dieting, training then you won't really enjoy the best results. Sure you may get some here and there but they won't be maximized... So yeah 1-2 months definitely takes some time.

AT is expensive... I can understand and relate to that as a student myself. A cheaper suggestion could always be to try stacking Stak w/ N1-T for 42 days... oh yeah.

That's a really good idea about the loyalty/rewards. I've seen other companies implement something in those regards-- I do feel Universal tries to give back as much as we can to all of our consumers--- especially to those over at the Forvm as well. I recommend signing up over there if you haven't already.

I like the idea of a loyalty rewards program though... let me see what I can do.

Here's a few pages of info with AT:
http://www.animalpak.com/html/sections.cfm?id=54

we must be on the same wave length becuase i was thinking the same thing. I want to run s upplement company where i would have consumers and then MEMBERS. Members would be people who only use that brand, support is and rock it. theyd get the stuff for 1/2 the price to consumers would because there standing completely behind that company and getting the name out there. Id hook the members up with all kinds of discounts etc..To make them feel like there wanted and a part of it instead of replaceable like the average consumer. I think that idea would make BANK and SAVE bank for alot of people.

Love the idea. Let me toss that idea around to some others...

[WarMachine000]

I've been to Universal's site, but it didn't have all of the information on the site you linked to!
Great site! Wish I would've found it sooner, but glad I have it now! Thanks again, B Con