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Q: Is the new M-Stak better than the old one?

A: The original Animal M-Stak was introduced six years ago, and at the time, though the formula was cutting-edge, non-hormonal, anabolic supplements utilizing "flavones" were still in their infancy. Fast forward to today and potent new compounds have come onto the supplement scene. The all new Animal M-Stak incorporates these advanced ingredients along with some of the best elements of the old formula--but now in more potent dosages. Today's M-Stak now provides superior and enhanced "nutrient-partitioning" effects as well as a host of new benefits designed to deliver a powerful, non-hormonal dual anabolic/anti-catabolic response. While the old M-Stak was something of a generalist, the new M-Stak is a specialist, targeted specifically for the classic "hardgainer". In other words, if you have a hard time adding lean mass, the new M-Stak is your choice. You now have options--use the M-Stak to boost anabolism non-hormonally, Stak to simultaneously boost and optimize ratios of natural hormone production (such as testosterone) or stack them together for greater gains.

Q: If I’m using a pre-workout booster like Animal Pump, can I use M-Stak at the same time?

A: Yes. Pump and M-Stak make up 2/3 of G Diesel's "Mass Stack" (the third element would be Torrent, the PWO shake). As both products contain energy boosters, here are two options. One, you can stack ‘em both together and remove the energy cap from one of ‘em and take it earlier in the day or later (depending on the time you lift). Your second option would be to use the Pump before the workout and the M-Stak either 3-4 hours before the workout or 3-4 hours afterwards. Either way, Pump and M-Stak is a solid combo.

Q: Does M-Stak affect test levels?

A: No, although M-Stak is an anabolic "primer" it does not work directly at manipulating testosterone or hormone production--nor does it contain any hormones. Instead, Animal M-Stak works via "nutrient-partitioning" and increasing protein synthesis and nitrogen retention. Animal Stak 2, on the other hand, is specifically geared for manipulating testosterone and hormone levels.
 
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THIS IS A AWSOME SUPPLEMENT!!
i am in no way, shape, or form a rep, paid promoter, or anything of the sort!! just a guy who use it once and in the middle of the second cycle, with amazing results (sound like the guy from bowflex commercial lol)!
so good i even ordered a one year supply of it!!
 
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NaturalGuy.

A little advice. Been studying on the Animal sups and trying to decide what would work for me.

48 years old and looking to gain some size. Getting ready to run a cycle and then pct. Would the animal supps be good to run then or run a stack of them right after my pct??

Any suggestions from you would be appreceated.

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NaturalGuy.

A little advice. Bee studying on the Animal sups and trying to decide what would work for me.

48 years old and looking to gain some size. Getting ready to run a cycle and then pct. Would the animal supps be good to run then or run a stck of them right after my pct??

Any suggestions from you would be appreceated.

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Pak and EAA's are staple supplements that you can run anytime. The M-stak I would use after your pct.
 
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NaturalGuy.

A little advice. Bee studying on the Animal sups and trying to decide what would work for me.

48 years old and looking to gain some size. Getting ready to run a cycle and then pct. Would the animal supps be good to run then or run a stck of them right after my pct??

Any suggestions from you would be appreceated.

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Try this for a serious kick bro:

Animal Pak- 1 pack with breakfast
Animal Test- 1 pack with the meal prior to training
Animal Stak- 1 pack 45 minutes prior to training
Animal Nitro- 1-2 packs postworkout
Torrent- 1 serving 30 minutes after your Nitro

If you really want some size run two cans of Test and Stak back to back and then follow that up by one can of M-Stak
 
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Thanks guys

Good information.

Looks like I'm buying some animals.

Probably going with the:

Animal Pak
Animal Stak
Animal M-Stak
Torent
Animal Test ( ???? )
 
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Thanks guys

Good ingormation.

Looks like I'm buying some animals.

Probably going with the:

Animal Pak
Animal Stak
Animal M-Stak
Torent
Animal Test ( ???? )
Nice bro, keep us posted on how your results are coming along. Any questions you have feel free to ask.
 

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Still on M-Stak one of the better products I have ever tried.I am a hardgainer and this has helped back on strength and muscle!
 

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wouldn't it help to use Nitro before the workout also? I mean you have everything covered with the Torrent so a pre-workout dose of EAAs would seem like the better choice to me.
 
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wouldn't it help to use Nitro before the workout also? I mean you have everything covered with the Torrent so a pre-workout dose of EAAs would seem like the better choice to me.
Yes, you can use Animal Nitro preworkout. One way to do it would be 1 pack 30 minutes prior to training and 1 pack postworkout. You want those EAA's postworkotu as well to speed up your recovery time. Taking Torrent 30 minutes later will further help flush those EAA's into your system.
 
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is it true the more you use m-stak the better the results are??
 
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is it true the more you use m-stak the better the results are??
There are a lot of factors to take into consideration such as diet and training but optimally 2 cans of M-stak works really well. After that I would take a break from it for a month or two.
 
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THIS IS A AWSOME SUPPLEMENT!!
i am in no way, shape, or form a rep, paid promoter, or anything of the sort!! just a guy who use it once and in the middle of the second cycle, with amazing results (sound like the guy from bowflex commercial lol)!
so good i even ordered a one year supply of it!!
Glad you like it, brother. When used correctly, it can be a real plus for sure. Too many use it thinking they'll get big fast. Too many use it on a bulk thinking they don't have to eat big--that the M-Stak will do everything. Supps don't work that way. Regardless of the goal, it all starts and ends with the diet. If that house ain't in order, you're likely wasting your $$$ on the supps.
 
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Thanks guys

Good information.

Looks like I'm buying some animals.

Probably going with the:

Animal Pak
Animal Stak
Animal M-Stak
Torent
Animal Test ( ???? )
Have you ever used this supps before? Individually or in this combo? My philosophy always is, less is more. In other words, start with less--especially if you haven't used a lot of 'em--and then work your way up. For example, I'm might start with Pak (always start with Pak), M-Stak, Stak and Torrent first. Then after ya run a cycle and know what ya need better, swap out something for Test. Start with less, then add more.
 
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wouldn't it help to use Nitro before the workout also? I mean you have everything covered with the Torrent so a pre-workout dose of EAAs would seem like the better choice to me.
I use EAAs pre, intra and post-workout. Yes, it could def help preworkout.

A typical protocol might look like this: Nitro pre, Torrent post. Or, as I did recently, EAA Stack pre, intra and post. Torrent followed up after the EAA Stack post.
 
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Hey U-Rep, quick question here, may sound dumb but...

I am coming off of a Stak cycle (got 5 days left), and I plan to move into a Cut/m-Stak cycle for two cycles.

Question is; I know to cycle off Stack by one week every three, but do I need to wait that one week if I am to move into m-Stak, or can I finish my last pack of Stak, and go directly into m-Stak.

Common sense here is telling me to wait a week after finishing Stak. Just thought I'd get your opinion
 
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Hey U-Rep, quick question here, may sound dumb but...

I am coming off of a Stak cycle (got 5 days left), and I plan to move into a Cut/m-Stak cycle for two cycles.

Question is; I know to cycle off Stack by one week every three, but do I need to wait that one week if I am to move into m-Stak, or can I finish my last pack of Stak, and go directly into m-Stak.

Common sense here is telling me to wait a week after finishing Stak. Just thought I'd get your opinion
Honestly, I would. Why the rush, A?
 
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Honestly, I would. Why the rush, A?
No rush U-Rep, I was just reading on cyclying off onto a new product on the F O R V M, and it confused me because it sounded as if you could roll right into the next.

I will wait. I think I might run a Cuts/m-Stak log. Have yet to run a log on anything. I'll save that for another thread.

Thanks.
 
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No rush U-Rep, I was just reading on cyclying off onto a new product on the F O R V M, and it confused me because it sounded as if you could roll right into the next.

I will wait. I think I might run a Cuts/m-Stak log. Have yet to run a log on anything. I'll save that for another thread.

Thanks.
You can, but... I'm a supporter of the idea of letting your body "reset" between supps.

If ya can, run your log here, or on the FORVM or even BB.com brother. I'd like to see it. Later.
 
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You can, but... I'm a supporter of the idea of letting your body "reset" between supps.
solid advice.

also, while i like the idea that Animal products can be "stacked" together, i really think some guys are getting carried away.
now, i'm not talking about the foundational ones (Pak, Omega, Flex, maybe even Pump),
but rather the ones that should be cycled, M-Stak, Stak, Cuts, and Test.

the trend that i see is that everyone wants to stack stack stack before they even have their nutrition, training, and basic supps down.
(Pak, Omega, Flex, protein, Torrent post-wo?, etc)

i'd also suggest trying each of the products that you are interested in alone first...
that way, you know how they affect you (good or bad).
then, once you have tried them separately, go ahead and stack them for continued results.

example: don't jump right into the Stak/Test stak.
try Stak. try Test. try M-Stak.
then stack 'em at down the road (this stack works really well too).

just my 2 cents.
 
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the trend that i see is that everyone wants to stack stack stack before they even have their nutrition, training, and basic supps down.
(Pak, Omega, Flex, protein, Torrent post-wo?, etc)

i'd also suggest trying each of the products that you are interested in alone first...
that way, you know how they affect you (good or bad).
then, once you have tried them separately, go ahead and stack them for continued results.
Very, very solid advice JY. Too many go right to supps, often ignoring the diet. It don't work that way. Food is always gonna be more important than supps. Make sure your diet and training is dialed in first. Make sure you're getting plenty of rest. Than, look at the supps.

Good call on starting small. It's my philosophy as well. When it comes to supps, less is more.
 
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Good call on starting small. It's my philosophy as well. When it comes to supps, less is more.
thx U Rep. that's another reason why i like Animal.. solid advice.

common sense too... diet, training, rest, the basics, then supps.
supps, start small and add from there, assessing the results from each.
 
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thx U Rep. that's another reason why i like Animal.. solid advice.

common sense too... diet, training, rest, the basics, then supps.
supps, start small and add from there, assessing the results from each.
Sometimes, it feels like an uphill battle. The supp industry thrives on more, more, more. Often, when I tell people to cut back on our supps, they're surprised.
 
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i should have worded it better, natural guy answered my question, but i meant, the more you use M-STAK, the more the better the results, like with every can the results get better......if that makes any sense
 
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i should have worded it better, natural guy answered my question, but i meant, the more you use M-STAK, the more the better the results, like with every can the results get better......if that makes any sense
It's really a function of your diet, brother... In other words, if, on your second can while you're on a bulk for example, you cut back on the food and the cals, it will be the reverse. M-Stak works with food via "nutrient-partitioning" among other things.
 
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Solid advice from both of you.

I have tried both Stak and m-Stak alone, with just the foundational pillars. However this would be the first time using Cuts ever. Maybe I'll try Cuts alone on the first cycle, then add the m-Stak on the second cycle. Hmm, got me thinking now.

Enforcer gave me the idea of running Cuts with m-Stak to help preserve lean mass along the cut.

I am too cheap to get wrapped up in adding this to that, then more. Hell I feel the Foundational supps cost me enough!
 
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i should have worded it better, natural guy answered my question, but i meant, the more you use M-STAK, the more the better the results, like with every can the results get better......if that makes any sense
i've found that if you have a solid foundation, these products will continue to give you results, can after can.
if your results seem to plateau, then switch to something else or then it's time to stack.
 
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sweet thanks im on my second can right now and diet is nice clean cals lots of complex carbs and protein, iv gained about 9 pounds between both cans and still have like 11 days left....i think im gunna buy bulk ECDY and stak it with M-STAK,just for the hell of it,.....on the ingredients it says next to "Natural Flavone/Sterone Complex" 750mg......would you tell me the amount of B-Ecdysterone in the blend of ingredients please, so i know how much to take on top of that, cuz i now have a formula to see how much Ecdy i need each day....
 
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Solid advice from both of you.

I have tried both Stak and m-Stak alone, with just the foundational pillars. However this would be the first time using Cuts ever. Maybe I'll try Cuts alone on the first cycle, then add the m-Stak on the second cycle. Hmm, got me thinking now.

Enforcer gave me the idea of running Cuts with m-Stak to help preserve lean mass along the cut.

I am too cheap to get wrapped up in adding this to that, then more. Hell I feel the Foundational supps cost me enough!
i like where your head's at bro.
you're not cheap... frugal maybe.. but i think you're just being smart.

remember this thing is a marathon, not a sprint.
little gains here and there add up to a lot over time.:thumbsup:
 
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Hey U-Rep, quick question here, may sound dumb but...

I am coming off of a Stak cycle (got 5 days left), and I plan to move into a Cut/m-Stak cycle for two cycles.

Question is; I know to cycle off Stack by one week every three, but do I need to wait that one week if I am to move into m-Stak, or can I finish my last pack of Stak, and go directly into m-Stak.

Common sense here is telling me to wait a week after finishing Stak. Just thought I'd get your opinion
I would take the week off bro. Let your body recover and get ready for the new supps that you are going to be feeding into your system.
 
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Solid advice from both of you.

I have tried both Stak and m-Stak alone, with just the foundational pillars. However this would be the first time using Cuts ever. Maybe I'll try Cuts alone on the first cycle, then add the m-Stak on the second cycle. Hmm, got me thinking now.

Enforcer gave me the idea of running Cuts with m-Stak to help preserve lean mass along the cut.

I am too cheap to get wrapped up in adding this to that, then more. Hell I feel the Foundational supps cost me enough!
Ahhh the Enforcer from the Forvm strikes once again
 

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any advice on stacking m-stak with mass-fx?
I cannot speak on mass fx as I am not familiar with it nor have I ever taken it.

In regards to M stak... be sure to EAT. Eat a high protein diet and be sure your nutrition/training is on.
 
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Than Hulgar and me will cumbine ower awwwwsum mites, and squish yew like bug...:numbered::saw::gore::toofunny::fool2::icon_lol:
I thought they banned that guy?
 

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M-Stak Final Review

M-Stak

Animal M Stack (21 packs) By: Universal Nutrition

Thoughts

Convenience -Awfully convenient as they came as pills! 8 pills per pack.

Recovery DOMS -
I would be sore 1-2 days max. Usually, I was just sore the following day of the workout...but no more than that. This let me train more often and I enjoyed this.

Strength Increases -
I was currently plateauing and beginning to lose some strength, but I was able to keep and regain this strength using M-Stak. One of the most noticeable increase with strength would be my Incline Bench going from 275x2-4 to 315x2.

Weight Gain -
Roughly 5-6 pounds. 213-218

Energy/Focus - I felt the energy rush roughly 15 minutes after taking it and then a good 15-20 minutes later it hit me good. Energy and focus throughout workout was amazing.

Overall

I personally really enjoyed M-Stak. I found that I was able to regain some of the strength that I was losing and I was able to rock out 4.5k+ cals with literally NO FAT GAIN. I was really wanting to do some after pictures as I feel much WIDER, but I cannot seem to find the camera. If it pops up, I will throw in the after pics! Finding myself wider, stronger and with more energy going into the workouts, I felt beast!

Link to the M Stak log:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/113275-bulking-m-stak.html
 

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-When all was said and done, I gained five pounds. Some pounds were lean, and some were not. I upped my calories a decent bit, simply by consuming more carbs and fat at meal times. I upped my carbs pre/post-workout. I was in a bit of a surplus. Cardio was not frequent and brief. I feel I have a low metabolism.

-I felt my metabolism sped up slightly, especially briefly after taking M-Stak (pre/post-workout). I felt hungrier on it. I am no scientist, but it might have something to do with the sterones, ginger, and other nutrient partitioning compounds, none of which I know much about.

-M-Stak, I find, will help one to add weight (good/bad weight in an almost even ratio it seems) while upping workout intensity.

-But all in all, again, I got good, consistent energy and some weight gain from the product. I think if used consistently, the product would obviously have accumulative effects that are positive, effects that all fitness enthusiasts wish for and appreciate.

-Would I use this product again? I believe I would if I were trying to "bulk." It seems to be a good bulking supplement. But for someone who simply eats at body's command or is wanting to "cut", I think other products would help in their endeavors more so.

-It's good for gainin' weight/a bit of strength.
Another user's feedback. Here is the log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/113863-secrets-my-future.html
 
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After my show, I'm going to try a little experiment with this... It should prove interesting...
 
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After my show, I'm going to try a little experiment with this... It should prove interesting...
Do not snort this stuff deadman! It has hot peppers in it. :tongue2:


Seriously, looking forward to seeing what you cook up. I'm into my second can of a back to back run right now. M-Stak is rockin...

Hg
 
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Do not snort this stuff deadman! It has hot peppers in it. :tongue2:


Seriously, looking forward to seeing what you cook up. I'm into my second can of a back to back run right now. M-Stak is rockin...

Hg
Uhm... I grow my own habanero, jalapeno, thai, and scotch bonnet peeprs, as well as make my own hot sauce... *L* But... I've read a couple of reports recently, about one of the ingredients, and have a twist in mind, that could prove interesting...
 

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