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Several studies show that DHEA and pregnenolone can enhance the brain's visual-spatial performance. (18-22) This is the brains ability to mentally perceive and arrange three dimensional objects. For example, this may enhance your ability to map placement objects on a 3D map. (22)
DHEA and pregnenolone have come together in the Power of FOCUS’s Advanced DHEA Complex with ANDRO FACTORY’s signature CP+R - bringing a new player in the race to FOCUS drive and a stronger leaner body.

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[h=2]The Advanced DHEA Complex[/h]
DHEA in general is commonly known as the anti-aging wonder drug of the century. But DHEA handled properly can result many different and long lasting benefits.

The mental effects of FOCUS come from two primary neurosteroids -

5-DHEA and 5-PREG. Highly absorbable hormones that convert to the active neurosteroids DHEA, pregnenolone and their sulfate forms. Unique hormones that posses effects not found with any other hormone in the body. (1-23-) No other steroid, testosterone booster or stimulant will take you where FOCUS takes you.

[h=2]Electrochemical and Neurological growth enhancement.[/h]
FOCUS --Working by both electrochemical enhancement and neurological growth enhancement. (1-23)

Growth of neurons takes time, it is not over night and it does not come in an energy drink. Slow building benefits deliver longer more satisfying results 24 hours a weeks on end. FOCUS is a Safe and Natural Prohormone meant for long lasting results that can stay with you for a very long time. FOCUS was meant to be cycled on and off of like all Natural Prohormone products by ANDRO FACTORY. Enhancing your workouts and daily alertness..

Supporting and Promoting:

  • Focus, Drive, Energy, Motivation
  • electrochemical enhancement
  • neurological growth enhancement

[h=2]FOCUS and Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT)[/h]
Are you taking testosterone “transdermal” or “injectable”? Then your body has probably stopped producing a large amount of DHEA and pregnenolone. This is common with the lack of regulation of hormone production caused by using outside sources of testosterone replacement. (21-24). If you are a TRT taking FOCUS will most likely provide you with a significant benefit above what your testosterone replacement (or any steroid) can do on its own.

[h=1]Clinical Studies [/h][h=2]Reversing Apathetic behavior and DHEA[/h]
Do you suffer from lack of interest in general activities, a job or a social life? So we're a group of teenage boys given DHEA as a treatment for general depression and feeling of inferiority; referred to as “constitutional inadequacy”. (25) Before the DHEA treatment was started, these boys were characterized as having a lack of interest in general activities, such as a job, or a social life. They were also bullied by their peers. After several weeks of DHEA treatment something miraculous happened. The boys starting showing interest in their activities, their outlook improved, they had interest in their jobs and began to have aspirations in achieving goals. It would seem that their DHEA treatment was a success. Even more so these boys that were previously bullied by their peers in some cases began to bully others. The researchers in these clinical studies made the formal conclusion regarding DHEA supplementation facilitates engagement, and in some cases, may reverse a timid or apathetic behavior. (16,25)

"[DHEA] exerts an androgenic effect in a social and psychological field, promoting a masculine activity of aggression, self-confidence, with small or no increase in weight... One is reminded of the hen run, the pecking order may be reversed"
- Dr. Dalton E Sands

[h=2]Food Cravings[/h]
Research in animal studies have found a similarity to what appears to happen in FOCUS; the change IN taste preference for healthier foods -- or at least a possible reduce for cravings for fatty / sweet foods. (26-30)
[h=2]If your goal is fat loss, weight loss, or both -- FOCUS will be your best friend. But if you are going for lean mass gains, make sure you don't forget to eat.[/h]
[h=2]The Power of DHEA and Progesterone[/h][h=2]Ready - Set - FOCUS[/h]
Several studies show that DHEA and pregnenolone can enhance the brain's visual-spatial performance. (18-22)

This is the brains ability to mentally perceive and arrange three dimensional objects. For example, this may enhance your ability to map placement of objects on a 3D map in a video game. (22)

[h=2]Less Fear - More Action[/h]
If the mind is clouded by fear -- the result is no response at all, hesitation, and probably defeat. (33-34)

In one medical literature there was a case report of a 68 year old man on high dose DHEA who began developing a grand business plan to sell antique cars and tractors -- despite never having such ambitious plans his entire life. (16)

The DHEA and progesterone in FOCUS is meant to increase the tendency to “take action”, enhance the bodys willingness to loss fear and take action, essentially aligning the mind and body..Fear can cloud your body's natural desire to want to take action. Curbing the fear is step one. If your fear is resolved you will naturally take more risk to conquer your obstacles. Allowing clear thinking, true focus and motivated drive.

[h=2]Anti-Cortisol - Courageous Fearlessness![/h]
If getting your but whooped during combat can increase your cortisol levels. (37) Then The anti- cortisol effects of FOCUS should enhance resilience to that butt whooping or over-training or any other physical extremities to the body. (31, 35 , 36)

When the brain lacks the capacity to comprehensively understand an obstacle, and find an appropriate response, the mind and body freeze -- and fear takes hold. (32-34)

Research shows that cortisol, which is released during stressful situations, may be responsible for enhancing the contextual fear response. (32-34) In other words, individuals who have a poor resistance to stress -- will have an enhanced startle response or period of hesitation during stressful situations.

Cortisol is a catabolic hormone that kills neurons, and breaks down neural tissue. (8-11) It makes sense that a highly stressed individual would respond in a fearful way to adverse stimulus -- simply because they lack the neural hardware for a sufficient counter response.

On the other hand, DHEA has been shown to prevent the contextual fear response. (32-36) The proposed mechanism is suggested to be an anti-cortisol effect -- due to DHEA's ability to antagonize the action of cortisol. The effect may also be related to increased serotonin, acetylcholine, sigma-1 activation by DHEA.

[h=2]Can you handle it?[/h]
Focus can offer a great benefit by enhancing an inadequate neural environment -- but it can make an aggressive or violent person worse. (25,38) If you are already an easily enraged or manic person, FOCUS may not be the safest choice for you.
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If getting your but whooped during combat can increase your cortisol levels. (37) Then The anti- cortisol effects of FOCUS should enhance resilience to that butt whooping or over-training or any other physical extremities to the body. (31, 35 , 36)

When the brain lacks the capacity to comprehensively understand an obstacle, and find an appropriate response, the mind and body freeze -- and fear takes hold. (32-34)

Research shows that cortisol, which is released during stressful situations, may be responsible for enhancing the contextual fear response. (32-34) In other words, individuals who have a poor resistance to stress -- will have an enhanced startle response or period of hesitation during stressful situations.

Cortisol is a catabolic hormone that kills neurons, and breaks down neural tissue. (8-11) It makes sense that a highly stressed individual would respond in a fearful way to adverse stimulus -- simply because they lack the neural hardware for a sufficient counter response.

On the other hand, DHEA has been shown to prevent the contextual fear response. (32-36) The proposed mechanism is suggested to be an anti-cortisol effect -- due to DHEA's ability to antagonize the action of cortisol. The effect may also be related to increased serotonin, acetylcholine, sigma-1 activation by DHEA.
 
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If the mind is clouded by fear -- the result is no response at all, hesitation, and probably defeat. (33-34)

In one medical literature there was a case report of a 68 year old man on high dose DHEA who began developing a grand business plan to sell antique cars and tractors -- despite never having such ambitious plans his entire life. (16)

The DHEA and progesterone in FOCUS is meant to increase the tendency to “take action”, enhance the bodys willingness to loss fear and take action, essentially aligning the mind and body..Fear can cloud your body's natural desire to want to take action. Curbing the fear is step one. If your fear is resolved you will naturally take more risk to conquer your obstacles. Allowing clear thinking, true focus and motivated drive.
 
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FOCUS The Power of DHEA and Progesterone

FOCUS by ANDRO FACTORYThe Power of DHEA and ProgesteroneReady - Set - FOCUSSeveral studies show that DHEA and pregnenolone can enhance the brain's visual-spatial performance. (18-22)This is the brains ability to mentally perceive and arrange three dimensional objects. For example, this may enhance your ability to map placement of objects on a 3D map in a video game. (22)
 
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FOCUS- Clinical Studies

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[/h][h=2]Reversing Apathetic behavior and DHEA[/h]
Do you suffer from lack of interest in general activities, a job or a social life? So we're a group of teenage boys given DHEA as a treatment for general depression and feeling of inferiority; referred to as “constitutional inadequacy”. (25) Before the DHEA treatment was started, these boys were characterized as having a lack of interest in general activities, such as a job, or a social life. They were also bullied by their peers. After several weeks of DHEA treatment something miraculous happened. The boys starting showing interest in their activities, their outlook improved, they had interest in their jobs and began to have aspirations in achieving goals. It would seem that their DHEA treatment was a success. Even more so these boys that were previously bullied by their peers in some cases began to bully others. The researchers in these clinical studies made the formal conclusion regarding DHEA supplementation facilitates engagement, and in some cases, may reverse a timid or apathetic behavior. (16,25)

"[DHEA] exerts an androgenic effect in a social and psychological field, promoting a masculine activity of aggression, self-confidence, with small or no increase in weight... One is reminded of the hen run, the pecking order may be reversed"
 
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FOCUS and Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT)

[h=2]FOCUS and Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT)[/h]
Are you taking testosterone “transdermal” or “injectable”? Then your body has probably stopped producing a large amount of DHEA and pregnenolone. This is common with the lack of regulation of hormone production caused by using outside sources of testosterone replacement. (21-24). If you are a TRT taking FOCUS will most likely provide you with a significant benefit above what your testosterone replacement (or any steroid) can do on its own.
 
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FOCUS --Working by both electrochemical enhancement and neurologi

[h=2]Electrochemical and Neurological growth enhancement.[/h]
FOCUS --Working by both electrochemical enhancement and neurological growth enhancement. (1-23)

Growth of neurons takes time, it is not over night and it does not come in an energy drink. Slow building benefits deliver longer more satisfying results 24 hours a weeks on end. FOCUS is a Safe and Natural Prohormone meant for long lasting results that can stay with you for a very long time. FOCUS was meant to be cycled on and off of like all Natural Prohormone products by ANDRO FACTORY. Enhancing your workouts and daily alertness..

Supporting and Promoting:

  • Focus, Drive, Energy, Motivation
  • electrochemical enhancement
  • neurological growth enhancement
 
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[h=2]Muscle growth initiated with LEAN-CUT[/h]
Virtually every aspect of LEAN muscle growth is initiated in LEAN-CUT. Leaving nothing to the imagination LEAN-CUT makes sure that all aspects of its delicately balanced DHEA Complex is moving towards tighter, harder and leaner muscles. Some of these effects such as the increased nuclei, myoblasts, and blood vessels can stick around for the rest of your life. (25-28)
Nuclei are essential to support the growth of new muscle tissue. (25) The muscle tissue that is accrued when you are on androgens, gains an increased number of nuclei, compared to training naturally. (23-26) Research suggests that the "extra" nuclei obtained from androgen use, stays elevated in muscle tissue, even after discontinuation of androgens -- and thus protects the muscle tissue from muscle loss after discontinuation of exercise. Increased nuclei also maximizes the potential for growth in response to retraining. (26) The increased nuclei and newly obtained muscle fibers (myoblasts), are retained for years, if not permanently. (20,26)

Supporting and Promoting:

  • New muscle cells - Differentiation of stem cells into muscle cells
  • New nuclei - Increased protein synthesis ability
  • More nutrient delivery - More blood vessels / more blood cells
  • More nutrients retained - Increased utilization of amino-acids for new tissue growth
 
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Controlling Androgens and Estrogens

[h=2]Controlling Androgens and Estrogens[/h]
LEAN-CUT isn’t going to get you the really big muscle gains MUSCLE-UP or BULK-UP will-- but just like any highly anabolic androgen, LEAN-CUT will build good quality long-lasting muscle. Having low androgenic activity and almost non-existent estrogenic activity (1-3) side-effects such as acne, body hair growth, bloat, and aggression will be well under control. With cortisol doing less damage the body can kick up the metabolic rate for some serious fat oxidation, and lean muscle growth. (15-18,21)

Supporting and Promoting:

  • Higher quality muscle - Increased protein synthesis & myonuclei
  • Less muscle loss - Blockage of the catabolic effect of cortisol
  • Blocks fat accumulation - Blockage of cortisol induced lipogenesis
  • Reduces fat cell size - Increased muscle oxidation of fatty acids

Of course this also means that LEAN-CUT isn’t going to get you super strong or super swole -- but just like any highly anabolic androgen, LEAN-CUT will build good quality long-lasting muscle.
Gains made will be easily maintainable with LEAN-CUT. Research shows that once fat mass is significantly reduced, which is the main reservoir for 11b-HSD1, then 11b-HSD1 activity may be kept under control by continuing to follow a proper diet and exercise program. (12,13)
 
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LEAN-CUT and Cortisol

[h=2]LEAN-CUT, Fat Loss and MUSCLE Insurance.[/h][h=2]What makes LEAN-CUT so good at fat loss? Well lets take a look.[/h]
Cortisol can be your friend if you're in an emergency when you need a fast shot of energy. (3-4) But like most people today chances are you have more than enough cortisol to survive and it might just be your enemy. Minimizing its effects is ideal for building a leaner and more muscular body. (5) If you lead a fairly sedentary lifestyle with plenty of calories to support your energy and exercise level then excess cortisol could actually wreck your body. (4-8)

[h=2]LEAN-CUT and Cortisol[/h]
Lets be clear LEAN-CUT doesn’t "suppress" cortisol production -- Rather, it prevents its re-activation. (8)

In the body, the destructive cortisol is gradually deactivated to the harmless cortisone. The 11b-HSD1 enzyme converts cortisone back to cortisol -- thus reactivating it. The androgens in LEAN-CUT occupy the 11b-HSD1 enzyme, thereby preventing the conversion (reactivation) of cortisone to cortisol. (9)

This means that the cortisol that is normally pumped out of the adrenal glands immediately after a stressful event -- is NOT affected by LEAN-CUT. (7)

In addition, animal studies have shown that even 100% removal of the 11b-HSD1 enzyme has no significant detrimental effects to overall health, or inflammation management. (7) Scientists have proposed that the distant purpose of 11b-HSD1 was to assist in survival by conserving energy in times of famine.

[h=2] Cortisol - Public Enemy #1[/h]
The worst time to have an increase in cortisol is right after a meal -- especially when the meal causes a big spike in insulin, like after a big carb or protein meal. (5)

If you aren't immediately burning off the calories you consumed, insulin will shuttle them into your fat cells. The heightened cortisol will begin forming new adipocytes (fat cells) to allow for further fat storage. (4-8,10,11)

Cortisol is an energy mobilizer -- meaning it can recycle your stored energy, convert it, and redistribute it. This means cortisol will break down muscle tissue, convert it into glucose, and eventually store the energy as fat. (10,11)

Cortisol can starve the muscles tissue of vital nutrients by reducing the muscle ability to take up nutrients in the blood. This is a result of breakdown of the insulin receptor, and reduced ability of insulin to shuttle nutrients into the muscles. (23-25)

11b-HSD1 is the enzyme that re-activates cortisol in muscle and fat tissue -- making it a perfect target. (19,22)

Both 11-DHEA and 7-DHEA have an extra naturally occurring "molecular oxygen" position -- which allows them to act as powerful 11b-HSD1 inhibitors. (5,9)

These androgens inhibit 11b-HSD1 by attaching to the 11b-HSD1 enzyme, hogging it up, and stop it from converting cortisone to cortisol. (20)

[h=2]So Now What?[/h]
Once cortisol is out of the picture (or at least doing less damage), the body can kick up the metabolic rate for serious fat oxidation, and lean muscle growth. (15-18,21)
 
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LEAN-CUT Softgels vs. Testosterone 450ng/dL! Equivalent?

[h=2]LEAN-CUT Softgels vs. Testosterone 450ng/dL! Equivalent?[/h]
Research shows that androgen levels (e.g. testosterone) must increase by 1300ng/dl to drop total body fat by 10%, and to increase lean body mass by 10%. (without training or diet intervention) (39-41) The outside studies quoted in this article sugests that a daily dose of 6 LEAN-CUT softgels can increase androgens enough to match the overall bioactivity of a 2004 ng/dl testosterone level. (42-51) (54-62)

So if your testosterone level is currently 300ng/dL, than 6 softgels of LEAN-CUT could promote enough "testosterone-activity" to surpass the threshold and drop total body fat by 10%, and increase lean body mass by 10% -- if you change no factors at all. Subjects have shown that additional lean mass and strength can be obtained by following an appropriate diet and training program.
 
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[h=2]Testosterone & LEAN-CUT[/h]
As testosterone is a poor thermogenic, and it doesn't really deactivate cortisol like the 11-oxo and 7-oxo androgens in LEAN-CUT. (14) Therefore, if you are on testosterone, its likely that the addition of LEAN-CUT will provide an additional thermogenic (calorie burning) effect, while deactivating cortisol which may assist in additional fat loss beyond the effect of testosterone alone.
 
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Growth of neurons takes time, it is not over night and it does not come in an energy drink. Slow building benefits deliver longer more satisfying results 24 hours a weeks on end. FOCUS is a Safe and Natural Prohormone meant for long lasting results that can stay with you for a very long time. FOCUS was meant to be cycled on and off of like all Natural Prohormone products by ANDRO FACTORY. Enhancing your workouts and daily alertness..

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  • Focus, Drive, Energy, Motivation
  • electrochemical enhancement
  • neurological growth enhancement
PCT for this should be a breeze!

Not only great for neurological growth and enhancement, FOCUS will have some neuroprotective properties hand in hand with the neurological growth. This means you will retain what you gain. The enhanced memory is not temporary, so as the effects build, you should have no problem maintaining that new level of focus.

Other key benefits:
Anti-anxiety
Anti-depression
Prevent loss of brain cells (college anyone?)

And in reference to brain cell protection, for those of you that don't consume alcohol, FOCUS can be your replacement social lubricant when you are out with friends.
 
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Stacking this low androgenic, high anabolic compound with something of high androgenic nature would be the perfect balance, allowing for fat loss and lean muscle gain.


Also, having low androgenic activity also means it could be an option for women who have their minds set on running a hormone. While it is not going to be 100% side free for females, this would be about the best choice for women looking to gain some lean muscle and lean up a bit. I would stay at 1 cap a day and run short cycles as a female.

Gains made will be easily maintainable with LEAN-CUT. Research shows that once fat mass is significantly reduced, which is the main reservoir for 11b-HSD1, then 11b-HSD1 activity may be kept under control by continuing to follow a proper diet and exercise program. (12,13)
Yes, they will. And keep in mind people, the scale will not be your best guide here. If you appear leaner every morning and are trying to build muscle, yet when you step on the scale the weight never goes up, that is a GREAT thing and is exactly how this product should be used. It is a great recomposition agent, capable of replacing fat mass with new muscle.
 

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PCT for this should be a breeze!

Not only great for neurological growth and enhancement, FOCUS will have some neuroprotective properties hand in hand with the neurological growth. This means you will retain what you gain. The enhanced memory is not temporary, so as the effects build, you should have no problem maintaining that new level of focus.

Other key benefits:
Anti-anxiety
Anti-depression
Prevent loss of brain cells (college anyone?)

And in reference to brain cell protection, for those of you that don't consume alcohol, FOCUS can be your replacement social lubricant when you are out with friends.

...or if you need to make some friends..haha.
 
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Supporting and Promoting:

  • New nuclei - Increased protein synthesis ability
  • More nutrient delivery - More blood vessels / more blood cells
  • More nutrients retained - Increased utilization of amino-acids for new tissue growth
Notes:

-Don't forget to keep protein consumption high
-11-DHEA should have a significant effect on vascularity
-Remember, PROTEIN. You have to eat if you want new tissue growth
 
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Less Fear - More Action



If the mind is clouded by fear -- the result is no response at all, hesitation, and probably defeat. (33-34)

In one medical literature there was a case report of a 68 year old man on high dose DHEA who began developing a grand business plan to sell antique cars and tractors -- despite never having such ambitious plans his entire life. (16)

The DHEA and progesterone in FOCUS is meant to increase the tendency to “take action”, enhance the bodys willingness to loss fear and take action, essentially aligning the mind and body..Fear can cloud your body's natural desire to want to take action. Curbing the fear is step one. If your fear is resolved you will naturally take more risk to conquer your obstacles. Allowing clear thinking, true focus and motivated drive.
All I heard was "If I take FOCUS, I will receive a promotion at work!"

Seriously though. Less fear means you are more inclined to take the initiative. Lack of fear and increase of confidence=win!
 

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Sorry, but I'm honestly going to report you for this. One thread - ok, it was an accident. 10 threads? It's clear what the agenda is, and there is a promotion section for this.
 
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Sorry, but I'm honestly going to report you for this. One thread - ok, it was an accident. 10 threads? It's clear what the agenda is, and there is a promotion section for this.
no one likes a snitch
 

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MAX-BULK or BULK-UP + MUSCLE-UP stacking is a great combination if massive muscle gain or lean muscle gain is your goal.
 

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hey there...I was thinking to use FOCUS, So can any one tell me the dose per day
And what are the logs for FOCUS?
 
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Sorry, but I'm honestly going to report you for this. One thread - ok, it was an accident. 10 threads? It's clear what the agenda is, and there is a promotion section for this.
We did ask if this is the appropriate place to post this and were instructed to run it this way. We have spent endless hours in studies and articles and want to steer away from just running promotions but instead begin scientifically based conversations on the studies behind the steroids.

Thank you for your input though, its appreciated.

-AF
 

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We did ask if this is the appropriate place to post this and were instructed to run it this way. We have spent endless hours in studies and articles and want to steer away from just running promotions but instead begin scientifically based conversations on the studies behind the steroids.

Thank you for your input though, its appreciated.

-AF
that would be all well and good, but there was no scientific basis for any of the real claims. I can break down every single post if u want. Cortisol won't be murdering neurons any time soon
 
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Re: FOCUS- The Science behind the steroids 5- PREG & 5-DHEA

It read like a sales pitch.

Next time just link the studies and comment on what your take on them was and that would have been fine



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So what is a recommmended PCT for FOCUS? How would a FOCUS and Lean-CUT stack work, what would be the rec dose? I'm thinking of stacking them up, they sound great.
 

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that would be all well and good, but there was no scientific basis for any of the real claims. I can break down every single post if u want. Cortisol won't be murdering neurons any time soon
Thoughts on this Focus product ?sounds interesting would like your input whenever u have free time thanks
 

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then dont' clean it up, it's not big deal, get over it
I've been sensing some hostility from you lately. You too are welcome to PM me if there's something on the table that I'm not aware of
 
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I've been sensing some hostility from you lately. You too are welcome to PM me if there's something on the table that I'm not aware of
no hostility, i've only said two things in here both we of the joking manner
 

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no hostility, i've only said two things in here both we of the joking manner
Sorry for the misinterpretation. I could go on a rant about tone of voice on the internet, but you know the drill :D
 
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Sorry for the misinterpretation. I could go on a rant about tone of voice on the internet, but you know the drill :D
all good....tone and selective reading are two major problems here on the internet......i had a real estate agent all upset today over a house i'm buying and i was just asking legit questions, she thought i was all mad
 

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all good....tone and selective reading are two major problems here on the internet......i had a real estate agent all upset today over a house i'm buying and i was just asking legit questions, she thought i was all mad
Dude, I honestly think the profile picture also makes a world of difference (serious). Just seeing that gorilla totally changes how I read your posts, as opposed to your old profile picture.
 
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Dude, I honestly think the profile picture also makes a world of difference (serious). Just seeing that gorilla totally changes how I read your posts, as opposed to your old profile picture.
i did it as a favor....it's my buddies web site logo, not sure i can post it in here but i write for them from time to time
 

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that would be all well and good, but there was no scientific basis for any of the real claims. I can break down every single post if u want. Cortisol won't be murdering neurons any time soon
I would think that peer reviewed published research,linked to each claim from the reference section to said Focus writeup on the AndroFactory web site,should be deemed as a scientific basis.

I can provide the links,if you're interested in a debate,I'd welcome such.

For now I'll add the following comments on what you have posted.

The writeup did not suggest that cortisol,dresses up in a 'lil black mask and runs rampant through the body whilst shooting cute 'lil neurons in their collective faces.

The overall point made,is that the downstream effects of heightened cortisol are a substantial issue;such as decreasing sleep duration and quality whilst increasing the stress response.Such actions invariably lead to fatigue and increased stress while in a fatigued state,will invariably lead to a decline in cognitive function and thus,a much greater propensity for increased neuronal cell death.

So what is a recommmended PCT for FOCUS? How would a FOCUS and Lean-CUT stack work, what would be the rec dose? I'm thinking of stacking them up, they sound great.
I apologize for the lack of a response.

DAA at 3 grams for a month will be more than sufficient,in terms of PCT for a run of Focus.

Focus and Lean Cut stacked together would "work" in a lot of ways.I would need more clarification on what you're asking for to give you a definitive answer.

For a bit of a starting point point on the two ,you can view full product writeups,at the links below.

LEAN-CUT: The Writeup | Andro Factory
FOCUS – The Writeup | Andro Factory
 

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Colin, that research was completely irrelevant to the claims made. Regardless, I'm not restarting a 6-month-old argument, sorry.
 

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I am not interested in starting a 6 month old arguement,either.I came across this thread and saw that no one from AF had ever responded to your take on the actives in Focus having no merit whatsoever to the claims made.

The numbered links in the Focus writeup actually do provide well established research for the assertions made so I offer that research up to anyone who happens to be interested in possibly trying Focus for themselves.

I apologize if you feel otherwise,I was merely trying to get some form of intelligent debate started.

Cheers,bro.

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I should add that when one posts disparaging statements about a company's product,one should most certainly be willing to back up their statements with FACT and reasoning behind such statements.

" that research was completely irrelevant to the claims made."...is a baseless statement with no counterpoint to show WHY the research is irrelevant to the claims made.

When discussing scientific principle and product design based on peer reviewed studies ,all of which are clearly noted from the product writeup and are in open view to the public via Pubmed.com....you must present a rationale based in fact,with peer reviewed studies noted,to present anything other than company smearing.

Baseless statements,like the one made by Mrcopper69 above,do this board a disservice.

The lack of willingness to back up such a statement with actual data to allow for open discussion to prove one's statement is simply indicative of poor character.

Baseless statements,like the one made by Mrcopper69 above,do this board a disservice.
 
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Thanks Colin, great info!

So if I decide to run Focus + Lean-cut what would be the optimal dose? I was thinking 2+2 for 6 weeks and then a 1 month DAA pct.

Does that sound right?
 
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Thanks Colin, great info!

So if I decide to run Focus + Lean-cut what would be the optimal dose? I was thinking 2+2 for 6 weeks and then a 1 month DAA pct.

Does that sound right?
That sounds pretty solid just depends on the individual. I would step up the PCT some if I was you. These are both mildly surpressive and 6 wks is going to leave you shut down. Not nearly as much as a lot of harsh Methly would but some. I would at least throw in a solid AI. But sounds fun good luck and let us know how it goes.
 

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Thanks Colin, great info!

So if I decide to run Focus + Lean-cut what would be the optimal dose? I was thinking 2+2 for 6 weeks and then a 1 month DAA pct.

Does that sound right?
Glad to help.

Personally,with two prohormones in play,I think you'd be better off with a 4 week cycle at medium dosing as recovery will be easier/quicker



That sounds pretty solid just depends on the individual. I would step up the PCT some if I was you. These are both mildly surpressive and 6 wks is going to leave you shut down. Not nearly as much as a lot of harsh Methly would but some. I would at least throw in a solid AI. But sounds fun good luck and let us know how it goes.
This approach would be fine as well,although I believe a minimalist approach should be utilized with hormonal compounds with the end point being minimal disruptment of homeostatis while allowing for favorable changes in body composition to be made.
 

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