FOCUS- The Science behind the steroids 5- PREG & 5-DHEA

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by burpees View Post
    Thoughts on this Focus product ?sounds interesting would like your input whenever u have free time thanks
    This is in AFs section now, you can PM me if still interested


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    then dont' clean it up, it's not big deal, get over it
    I've been sensing some hostility from you lately. You too are welcome to PM me if there's something on the table that I'm not aware of
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I've been sensing some hostility from you lately. You too are welcome to PM me if there's something on the table that I'm not aware of
    no hostility, i've only said two things in here both we of the joking manner

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    no hostility, i've only said two things in here both we of the joking manner
    Sorry for the misinterpretation. I could go on a rant about tone of voice on the internet, but you know the drill

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Sorry for the misinterpretation. I could go on a rant about tone of voice on the internet, but you know the drill
    all good....tone and selective reading are two major problems here on the internet......i had a real estate agent all upset today over a house i'm buying and i was just asking legit questions, she thought i was all mad

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    all good....tone and selective reading are two major problems here on the internet......i had a real estate agent all upset today over a house i'm buying and i was just asking legit questions, she thought i was all mad
    Dude, I honestly think the profile picture also makes a world of difference (serious). Just seeing that gorilla totally changes how I read your posts, as opposed to your old profile picture.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Dude, I honestly think the profile picture also makes a world of difference (serious). Just seeing that gorilla totally changes how I read your posts, as opposed to your old profile picture.
    i did it as a favor....it's my buddies web site logo, not sure i can post it in here but i write for them from time to time

  8. so you are helping your buddy

    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i did it as a favor....it's my buddies web site logo, not sure i can post it in here but i write for them from time to time

  9. I miss Fred.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    that would be all well and good, but there was no scientific basis for any of the real claims. I can break down every single post if u want. Cortisol won't be murdering neurons any time soon
    I would think that peer reviewed published research,linked to each claim from the reference section to said Focus writeup on the AndroFactory web site,should be deemed as a scientific basis.

    I can provide the links,if you're interested in a debate,I'd welcome such.

    For now I'll add the following comments on what you have posted.

    The writeup did not suggest that cortisol,dresses up in a 'lil black mask and runs rampant through the body whilst shooting cute 'lil neurons in their collective faces.

    The overall point made,is that the downstream effects of heightened cortisol are a substantial issue;such as decreasing sleep duration and quality whilst increasing the stress response.Such actions invariably lead to fatigue and increased stress while in a fatigued state,will invariably lead to a decline in cognitive function and thus,a much greater propensity for increased neuronal cell death.

    Quote Originally Posted by E J View Post
    So what is a recommmended PCT for FOCUS? How would a FOCUS and Lean-CUT stack work, what would be the rec dose? I'm thinking of stacking them up, they sound great.
    I apologize for the lack of a response.

    DAA at 3 grams for a month will be more than sufficient,in terms of PCT for a run of Focus.

    Focus and Lean Cut stacked together would "work" in a lot of ways.I would need more clarification on what you're asking for to give you a definitive answer.

    For a bit of a starting point point on the two ,you can view full product writeups,at the links below.

    LEAN-CUT: The Writeup | Andro Factory
    FOCUS – The Writeup | Andro Factory
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  11. Colin, that research was completely irrelevant to the claims made. Regardless, I'm not restarting a 6-month-old argument, sorry.

  12. I am not interested in starting a 6 month old arguement,either.I came across this thread and saw that no one from AF had ever responded to your take on the actives in Focus having no merit whatsoever to the claims made.

    The numbered links in the Focus writeup actually do provide well established research for the assertions made so I offer that research up to anyone who happens to be interested in possibly trying Focus for themselves.

    I apologize if you feel otherwise,I was merely trying to get some form of intelligent debate started.

    Cheers,bro.

    Edit:

    I should add that when one posts disparaging statements about a company's product,one should most certainly be willing to back up their statements with FACT and reasoning behind such statements.

    " that research was completely irrelevant to the claims made."...is a baseless statement with no counterpoint to show WHY the research is irrelevant to the claims made.

    When discussing scientific principle and product design based on peer reviewed studies ,all of which are clearly noted from the product writeup and are in open view to the public via Pubmed.com....you must present a rationale based in fact,with peer reviewed studies noted,to present anything other than company smearing.

    Baseless statements,like the one made by Mrcopper69 above,do this board a disservice.

    The lack of willingness to back up such a statement with actual data to allow for open discussion to prove one's statement is simply indicative of poor character.

    Baseless statements,like the one made by Mrcopper69 above,do this board a disservice.

  13. Thanks Colin, great info!

    So if I decide to run Focus + Lean-cut what would be the optimal dose? I was thinking 2+2 for 6 weeks and then a 1 month DAA pct.

    Does that sound right?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by E J View Post
    Thanks Colin, great info!

    So if I decide to run Focus + Lean-cut what would be the optimal dose? I was thinking 2+2 for 6 weeks and then a 1 month DAA pct.

    Does that sound right?
    That sounds pretty solid just depends on the individual. I would step up the PCT some if I was you. These are both mildly surpressive and 6 wks is going to leave you shut down. Not nearly as much as a lot of harsh Methly would but some. I would at least throw in a solid AI. But sounds fun good luck and let us know how it goes.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by E J View Post
    Thanks Colin, great info!

    So if I decide to run Focus + Lean-cut what would be the optimal dose? I was thinking 2+2 for 6 weeks and then a 1 month DAA pct.

    Does that sound right?
    Glad to help.

    Personally,with two prohormones in play,I think you'd be better off with a 4 week cycle at medium dosing as recovery will be easier/quicker



    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    That sounds pretty solid just depends on the individual. I would step up the PCT some if I was you. These are both mildly surpressive and 6 wks is going to leave you shut down. Not nearly as much as a lot of harsh Methly would but some. I would at least throw in a solid AI. But sounds fun good luck and let us know how it goes.
    This approach would be fine as well,although I believe a minimalist approach should be utilized with hormonal compounds with the end point being minimal disruptment of homeostatis while allowing for favorable changes in body composition to be made.
  

  
 

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