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    Colin, that research was completely irrelevant to the claims made. Regardless, I'm not restarting a 6-month-old argument, sorry.
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    I am not interested in starting a 6 month old arguement,either.I came across this thread and saw that no one from AF had ever responded to your take on the actives in Focus having no merit whatsoever to the claims made.

    The numbered links in the Focus writeup actually do provide well established research for the assertions made so I offer that research up to anyone who happens to be interested in possibly trying Focus for themselves.

    I apologize if you feel otherwise,I was merely trying to get some form of intelligent debate started.

    Cheers,bro.

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    I should add that when one posts disparaging statements about a company's product,one should most certainly be willing to back up their statements with FACT and reasoning behind such statements.

    " that research was completely irrelevant to the claims made."...is a baseless statement with no counterpoint to show WHY the research is irrelevant to the claims made.

    When discussing scientific principle and product design based on peer reviewed studies ,all of which are clearly noted from the product writeup and are in open view to the public via Pubmed.com....you must present a rationale based in fact,with peer reviewed studies noted,to present anything other than company smearing.

    Baseless statements,like the one made by Mrcopper69 above,do this board a disservice.

    The lack of willingness to back up such a statement with actual data to allow for open discussion to prove one's statement is simply indicative of poor character.

    Baseless statements,like the one made by Mrcopper69 above,do this board a disservice.
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    Thanks Colin, great info!

    So if I decide to run Focus + Lean-cut what would be the optimal dose? I was thinking 2+2 for 6 weeks and then a 1 month DAA pct.

    Does that sound right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by E J View Post
    Thanks Colin, great info!

    So if I decide to run Focus + Lean-cut what would be the optimal dose? I was thinking 2+2 for 6 weeks and then a 1 month DAA pct.

    Does that sound right?
    That sounds pretty solid just depends on the individual. I would step up the PCT some if I was you. These are both mildly surpressive and 6 wks is going to leave you shut down. Not nearly as much as a lot of harsh Methly would but some. I would at least throw in a solid AI. But sounds fun good luck and let us know how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E J View Post
    Thanks Colin, great info!

    So if I decide to run Focus + Lean-cut what would be the optimal dose? I was thinking 2+2 for 6 weeks and then a 1 month DAA pct.

    Does that sound right?
    Glad to help.

    Personally,with two prohormones in play,I think you'd be better off with a 4 week cycle at medium dosing as recovery will be easier/quicker



    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    That sounds pretty solid just depends on the individual. I would step up the PCT some if I was you. These are both mildly surpressive and 6 wks is going to leave you shut down. Not nearly as much as a lot of harsh Methly would but some. I would at least throw in a solid AI. But sounds fun good luck and let us know how it goes.
    This approach would be fine as well,although I believe a minimalist approach should be utilized with hormonal compounds with the end point being minimal disruptment of homeostatis while allowing for favorable changes in body composition to be made.
  

  
 

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