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  1. Quote Originally Posted by g0hardorgohom View Post
    No problem. It would be awesome if you logged the cycle so other would see what Bulk-Up does. I'd follow it for sure!
    Yea I will. It will be a little while though. I want to see 4 or 5 good logs on bulk-up before I drop a bunch of cash on it.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by N.Woods Giant View Post
    Yea I will. It will be a little while though. I want to see 4 or 5 good logs on bulk-up before I drop a bunch of cash on it.
    good call. its a steep price to just jump in
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  3. very true its always good to see what to expect before jumping in head first.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by N.Woods Giant

    Thanks for the reply! Reps!

    Yea, the cost is pretty high... Might be worth it though if it makes for a much better cycle.

    Would it be best to start the Bulk up before the SD and run it after the SD is done? Or just start the bulk-up early and then end both at the same time?
    Couldn't you just run stano for way cheaper?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Couldn't you just run stano for way cheaper?
    Stano has just DHT precursor in it, Bulk-up has also testosterone precursor (4-DHEA). Stano is not very anabolic so it wouldn't add much to your cycle in terms of gains but 4-DHEA in Bulk-up would help you gain even more.
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  6. Very interesting stuff guys, been reading up on bu and p bold lately. Informative thread /10

  7. Personally if one could afford to I would run the Bulk-Up for an additional 4 weeks post Ultradrol/Superdrol or whatever methyl you choose. Personally I feel 4 weeks will allow far more of the gains to "solidify." You could also run DAA during those 4 weeks with the Bulk-Up and make PCT even easier.



  8. Quote Originally Posted by pushinweightw View Post
    Personally if one could afford to I would run the Bulk-Up for an additional 4 weeks post Ultradrol/Superdrol or whatever methyl you choose. Personally I feel 4 weeks will allow far more of the gains to "solidify." You could also run DAA during those 4 weeks with the Bulk-Up and make PCT even easier.
    i'd even go as far as bridging the two....like sd for 3 weeks and on the third week combing the bulk up, like u said to solidify the gains

    with something like sd, you'll add a lot of weight in a quick period of time making it difficult to keep the gains...briding to another compound at the end will help add more gains but over an extended period of time, should help keep more of the gains
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i'd even go as far as bridging the two....like sd for 3 weeks and on the third week combing the bulk up, like u said to solidify the gains

    with something like sd, you'll add a lot of weight in a quick period of time making it difficult to keep the gains...briding to another compound at the end will help add more gains but over an extended period of time, should help keep more of the gains
    I am of the opinion that the longer the better when it comes to retaining your gains. If you add 15lbs in three weeks on SD and then go right into PCT, ie. you drop your androgen levels for a few weeks while you wait to restart your HTPA there is a huge chance that your going to loose some of those 15lbs. Your body never had a chance to get used to being a certain weight. The longer you can sit at that new weight the better. Adding in Bulk-Up for at least 4 weeks will help you hold those gains far better IMO. I have always been more successful when I was on for longer when it came to retaining the muscle gained.



  10. Quote Originally Posted by pushinweightw View Post
    I am of the opinion that the longer the better when it comes to retaining your gains. If you add 15lbs in three weeks on SD and then go right into PCT, ie. you drop your androgen levels for a few weeks while you wait to restart your HTPA there is a huge chance that your going to loose some of those 15lbs. Your body never had a chance to get used to being a certain weight. The longer you can sit at that new weight the better. Adding in Bulk-Up for at least 4 weeks will help you hold those gains far better IMO. I have always been more successful when I was on for longer when it came to retaining the muscle gained.
    we're on the same page with this one then....i totally agree
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  11. Anyone that has ever reset there bodys "set point" will tell you the key is time. If you bulk up and stay at that new weight for a short period of time you will have a hard time maintaining that new set point. My body used to be set at 200, then I spent a long time and it became 220. I recently took over a year off of training due to some health issues but the whole time I was off of everything my body weight never dropped below 240(my current set point.) I would be hard pressed to drop below 240 now without a concerted effort. It took spending 2 years at 240 to make it set. I used to feel terrible at 240, out of breath and unhealthy feeling. Now after spending time at that new weight I feel great. I never get out of breath like I used to and have adjusted to the new weight.

    So what am I driving at? Well gaining 15-20lbs in three weeks is going to be very hard to maintain as your body never gets accustomed to it. Problem is the compounds that put that weight on you so quick are too harsh to run for any decent length of time. Answer to the dilemma? A solid non methyl that can be ran for longer than 3-4 weeks ie Bulk-Up, P-BOLD and so on. Look at traditional cycles very few people run them for 3-4 weeks. You see many more 12-16 weeks set ups. There is a reason for this.



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  13. Quote Originally Posted by N.Woods Giant View Post
    Yea I will. It will be a little while though. I want to see 4 or 5 good logs on bulk-up before I drop a bunch of cash on it.
    Yea, unsponsered logs.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    Yea, unsponsered logs.
    We may have a unsponsored log of BULK-UP/P-BOLD stack soon. I know one person who is gonna buy 1 bottle of BULK-UP and 2 of P-BOLD and he might be willing to log it.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    Yea, unsponsered logs.
    I too would like to see these and hopefully we will see more.

    Quote Originally Posted by g0hardorgohom View Post
    We may have a unsponsored log of BULK-UP/P-BOLD stack soon. I know one person who is gonna buy 1 bottle of BULK-UP and 2 of P-BOLD and he might be willing to log it.
    Keep at him it would be nice and clearly people are looking to see these. Keep me updated please.



  16. Quote Originally Posted by pushinweightw View Post
    I too would like to see these and hopefully we will see more.



    Keep at him it would be nice and clearly people are looking to see these. Keep me updated please.
    Now that P-BOLD is out of stock, he decided to buy two bottles of BULK-UP instead! Hopefully we'll see a log..
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by g0hardorgohom View Post
    Now that P-BOLD is out of stock, he decided to buy two bottles of BULK-UP instead! Hopefully we'll see a log..

    I know stacks are fun and all but I like seeing products ran one at a time most of the time. If he has never ran BULK-UP this might turn out to be better from an evidence standpoint. Plus with two bottles he will be running BULK-UP for a decent length of time.



  18. Quote Originally Posted by pushinweightw View Post
    I know stacks are fun and all but I like seeing products ran one at a time most of the time. If he has never ran BULK-UP this might turn out to be better from an evidence standpoint. Plus with two bottles he will be running BULK-UP for a decent length of time.
    i agree...stacking is fun, but it's always good to get a base as to what each product does individually first

    stacking two products that u've never tried, if you start getting sides, it's hard to tell what product is causing them
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i agree...stacking is fun, but it's always good to get a base as to what each product does individually first

    stacking two products that u've never tried, if you start getting sides, it's hard to tell what product is causing them

    Don't get me wrong what we have here is a classic case of do as I say not as I do as I certainly have been guilty of stacking new products in the past. Sometime we get so eager to make gains that we forget this is a marathon not a sprint.

    When I run my stack I am thinking of running the first 4 weeks BULK-UP continued till the end of the cycle and running the P-BOLD after one month on BULK-UP. That should allow me time to tell whats what.



  20. Quote Originally Posted by pushinweightw View Post
    I know stacks are fun and all but I like seeing products ran one at a time most of the time. If he has never ran BULK-UP this might turn out to be better from an evidence standpoint. Plus with two bottles he will be running BULK-UP for a decent length of time.
    Yeah, he was originally going to buy 1 bottle of BULK-UP and 2 of P-BOLD but now he'll go with 2 bottles of BULK-UP.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory View Post
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    bump for you research guys out there
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory View Post
    BULK-UP - STRONGEST-SAFEST-LEGAL-PROHORMONES. PERIOD.Androsterone, Epiandrosterone and 4-DHEA makes BULK-UP the only testosterone and androgen enhancement formula worthy of being compared to prescription testosterone; supporting rapid growth with minimal to no side effects. Combined with ANDRO FACTORY’s signature Cycle Protection and Recovery blend (CP+R) that makes BULK-UP one heavy hitter. Delivering the results you want: big, hard, strong and NOW.
    Haven't seen the profile but CPR is for on cycle or after cycle?

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  24. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post

    Haven't seen the profile but CPR is for on cycle or after cycle?

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    CPR is for on cycle protection. But judging from its profile, it would serve as a great general health support post cycle or any time too.
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  25. BULK-UP is non-methylated making it easy to stack with any cycle


    Quote Originally Posted by pushinweightw View Post
    Don't get me wrong what we have here is a classic case of do as I say not as I do as I certainly have been guilty of stacking new products in the past. Sometime we get so eager to make gains that we forget this is a marathon not a sprint.

    When I run my stack I am thinking of running the first 4 weeks BULK-UP continued till the end of the cycle and running the P-BOLD after one month on BULK-UP. That should allow me time to tell whats what.
    Also, we have some stacking info coming out for the whole line. The Elite Series and The Gorilla Series and how they stack together.

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  28. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    bulk up stacked with ultradrol?
    That'd be nice. Ultra Bulk!
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post

    That'd be nice. Ultra Bulk!
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