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Need advice on 3-AD

BaM916

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Hey guys,

I'm looking to start a 3-ad cycle in 2 weeks, and I need some help from the gurus! First things, first. I'm 6'3 235lbs and about 16% BF. I've used M1t, 1-ad, and Epi. I'm currently trying to lean up a little more. I have seen where some people are using 3-ad with other supps, to cut. Here is an example of what I'm looking to go with.

6 week cycle
weeks 1-3
3-ad - 4caps/day
Leviathan - 6caps/day (I have used Levi, can tolerate 6/day)
Hyperdrol - 4caps/day
DCP - 10caps/day

weeks 4-6
3-ad - 6caps/day
Levi - same as above
Hyperdrol - 6caps/day
DCP - same as above

PCT
weeks 7-9
aPCT - need advice on dosage
Retain - 3/day
Xlean - 10/day

I'm also gonna run a couple bottles Napalm at the end if it looks like I need to. I have tried to do plenty of research, but I haven't found anything about a cycle quite like this, and could really use some help

TIA guys!
 
The cycle you have planned out looks pretty good to me. My personal opinion I wouldn't use Leviathan during the cycle. I would suggest using Mass FX along with 3-AD. The other recommendation I would have for you is to save Hyperdrol until your PCT. Running aPCT at 3 caps per day spread out evenly along with 2 Hyperdrol before bed would be a nice setup for PCT.
 
Thanks for the quick response! Heres what I have now.

6 week cycle
weeks 1-3
3-ad - 4caps/day
MassFX
DCP - 10caps/day

weeks 4-6
3-ad - 6caps/day
MassFX
DCP - same as above

PCT
weeks 7-9
aPCT - 3/day
Hyperdrol - 2/day
Retain - 3/day
Xlean - 10/day

What dossage would you recommend for MassFX? Also, do you think it is necessary to take aPCT, Retain, Xlean, AND Hyperdrol?
 
You can dose 4-6 Mass FX per day. Since your 6'3 235lbs I would go w/ 6 caps of Mass FX per day 2 caps every 4-6hrs. I think you would be fine w/ aPCT, Hyperdrol and Retain for PCT.
 
Awesome. Thanks for all the help. I am gonna try to log this cycle, as long as I have time to. Now the only advice I need is how to get the money for all this! I'm really hoping to lean out more while on this cycle, but at the same time get some good gains. I guess thats a little redundant to say, considering everybody wants to be big and lean, heh. My calories will be around 3k - 3.5k/day throughout this, so we will see how it goes. Thanks again bro!
 
For PCT, with the added Hyperdrol in there, I would go with 3 aPCT spread evenly throughout the day and taking 2 HX2 at night before bed. That'll do you quite well, and is actually gltrdone's PCT plan for his cycle as well. Retain2 is dosed best first thing in the morning, again 4 hours later, and possibly after your workout if you'd like to.

6 MFX/day for your size should be pretty good! Spread it out over 3 dosing times, taking 2 caps each time.

3-AD timing is more closely related to meals than it is workout. Plan on taking it during a mid-morning meal that includes 20g of good fats, and probably again at your "dinner" meal with fats. It's a fat-soluble supplement, so taking it with fats is important. A few tablespoons of olive oil, or natty peanut butter, or even an avacado would be just fine for ya.

If you're worried about the money matters, which I'm sure we all are anymore, then strip down to bare-bones. Of course, as a rep, I'm going to say do the AX gear only. But as a person who has done some crazy-arse stacks and works on a budget all the time, I'll say the same thing. If your diet is good, you should still lean out a bit while on these. Save the LR and DCP for the second half of PCT and just gradually transition into them then. Stacking too many things together, especially PH w/ test boosters w/ pro-anabolics makes it extremely difficult to tell what actually worked!! When you come back and want to run something again, how will you know what is successful? You'd have to run each one over again separately, or bite the bullet and do exactly the same again. Let's face it, what you have lined up there is a pretty hefty pricetag! Best to make the most of it, man!

Good luck, and go hard!!!! :D
 
Great advice Tim! Thanks again guys. Looks like I've got a good gameplan. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
 
Alright, I've got everything pretty much in line, and I'm about to order it, but I was wondering, do you guys think that Trisorbagen would be good to add to this stack?
 
Taking 3-AD w/ 15-20g of fat helps with the absorption but Trisorbagen would help keep it active in your system longer. It's really up to you if you wanted to get it for your cycle. If spending a little extra for it is no biggie then I say go for it!:thumbsup:
 
i don't get the recommendation of adding massfx alongside a cycle of 3-ad??

maybe adding massfx 3-5 days before 3-ad cycle ends would make more sense?
 
Adding MassFX in there does make some good sense. If you think about how MFX works to free up bound testosterone, then you'll see why it does. In addition, MFX helps with nitrogen retention and protein synthesis - both things that help create a more anabolic environment for muscle growth. Though 3-AD and MFX share a few of the same ingredients, an increased dose of them will be all that much better for your cycle. Oh, and did we mention that MFX actually helps with recovery, whereas one of the slight sides that some noticed from 3-AD was DOMS? There's a bonus if I ever saw one! :D
 
timdull2 said:
Adding MassFX in there does make some good sense. If you think about how MFX works to free up bound testosterone, then you'll see why it does. In addition, MFX helps with nitrogen retention and protein synthesis - both things that help create a more anabolic environment for muscle growth. Though 3-AD and MFX share a few of the same ingredients, an increased dose of them will be all that much better for your cycle. Oh, and did we mention that MFX actually helps with recovery, whereas one of the slight sides that some noticed from 3-AD was DOMS? There's a bonus if I ever saw one! :D
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hmm dun think along the same line; not many people would want to add to add massfx to a pro-hormone like pheraplex or havoc; The + point derived from a test booster like massfx would be very minimal I think

I read elsewhere 3-ad was similar to pheraplex but with the methyl removed, so that does make it technically a "pro-hormone"

Pls discuss, thanks
 
Yes, 3-AD is a pro hormone but it isn't methylated as you mentioned. Add Mass FX along side of 3-AD helps with the reasons Tim mentioned. It increases levels of free testosterone, accelerates the rate of protein synthesis and it has white button mushroom extract which has an AI effect. Your body while react to the decrease in estrogen therefore creating more testosterone. That extra testosterone would be kept unbound. White button mushroom extract doesn't completely eliminate estrogen but it does effectively reduces and modulates estrogen levels. This will keep your body in a highly anabolic state increasing muscle mass and strength.
 
hell yeah, great combo. can't hurt. Looks like some great solid mass. throw in the DCP to help rid unwanted fat and wow. solid lean mass. Good Luck Bro.....
People will be all over this thread.
 
gltrdone83 said:
Yes, 3-AD is a pro hormone but it isn't methylated as you mentioned. Add Mass FX along side of 3-AD helps with the reasons Tim mentioned. It increases levels of free testosterone, accelerates the rate of protein synthesis and it has white button mushroom extract which has an AI effect. Your body while react to the decrease in estrogen therefore creating more testosterone. That extra testosterone would be kept unbound. White button mushroom extract doesn't completely eliminate estrogen but it does effectively reduces and modulates estrogen levels. This will keep your body in a highly anabolic state increasing muscle mass and strength.
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hmmm so if my friend is taking winstrol, and I were to ask him to ask massfx to his cycle, you think by releasing more of the "free testosterone" will make him quadzillion times more huge?

that way I'll email ronnie coleman and tell him how he can free more testosterone, maybe he can gain back his lost crown?
 
hey matt cahill, if you're reading this, do you think adding massfx to a cycle of 3-ad is really worth it, or better to be used as PCT?

3-ad is not really cheap, adding massfx may not warrant, I might as well get an extra box of 3-ad and increase the dosage
 
I don't mean to be rude by asking this, and I don't mean to sound daft...

But are you coming back at us with smart-arse comments or legitimate questions? I'm just having trouble processing. Sorry.
 
Please show these guys some respect, they are very knowledgeable guys who are only trying to help you. They don't pimp products if they don't feel it would help to a substantial amount. This is the wrong website for that kind of attitude.
 
raptor2003 said:
hey matt cahill, if you're reading this, do you think adding massfx to a cycle of 3-ad is really worth it, or better to be used as PCT?

3-ad is not really cheap, adding massfx may not warrant, I might as well get an extra box of 3-ad and increase the dosage
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If you are on a budget then dont use it but binding SHBG during cycle has its advantages. Forskolin (also found in Mass FXMAX) helps to increase the enzymes that convert Androsterone to its active Stanolone.

If I had the choice between adding MFX to 3AD or buying an extra 3AD to increase the dose, I would buy the extra bottle of 3AD. But MFX does play a role when stacking with 3AD.
 
I agree about the comments.
I've got an idea, Why don't we make everybody happy and take the MFX weeks 4-9. during and post. :woohoo:
 
I'm researching the idea of 3-AD and MassFX as my next lean bulk, so I'm invested in this continuing dialogue.
 
Wow looks like my thread got a pretty good debate going. I just wanted to let you guys know that I received my supps and I am starting today. :woohoo: I'm gonna try to log this cycle, so I'll be starting a new thread later today. I'll have all the details on what I'm taking and the dosages in my first post. Thanks again to gltrdone, and Tim for all the help! Keep up the great work guys! :clap2:
 
Go get 'em, champ!!! If you need any other help, just let us know! After all, that's why we're here!! :head:
 
raptor2003 said:
hmmm so if my friend is taking winstrol, and I were to ask him to ask massfx to his cycle, you think by releasing more of the "free testosterone" will make him quadzillion times more huge?

that way I'll email ronnie coleman and tell him how he can free more testosterone, maybe he can gain back his lost crown?
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This guy sounds like he needs an ass whoopin.
 
raptor2003 said:
hmmm so if my friend is taking winstrol, and I were to ask him to ask massfx to his cycle, you think by releasing more of the "free testosterone" will make him quadzillion times more huge?

that way I'll email ronnie coleman and tell him how he can free more testosterone, maybe he can gain back his lost crown?
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actually, inhibition of SHBG is one of the major anabolic pathways of winstrol. Another reason why it's often recommended not to be taken standalone.

And no need to email Ronnie. We all know Jay Cutler beat him because Ronnie stopped using dat dere Cell-Tech. I mean, seriously.
 
thesinner said:
And no need to email Ronnie. We all know Jay Cutler beat him because Ronnie stopped using dat dere Cell-Tech. I mean, seriously.
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Nah, bro...say it ain't so!!! :aargh::aargh::aargh:
 
I'm gonna combine the two into a big bucket of NOXplocell-tech and become da hugest mofo anywhere!!


Or, I'm going to go eat an orange and actually put something useful into my system. ;) :lol:

Oh yes...I went there... :rofl:
 
Designer Supps said:
If you are on a budget then dont use it but binding SHBG during cycle has its advantages. Forskolin (also found in Mass FXMAX) helps to increase the enzymes that convert Androsterone to its active Stanolone.

If I had the choice between adding MFX to 3AD or buying an extra 3AD to increase the dose, I would buy the extra bottle of 3AD. But MFX does play a role when stacking with 3AD.
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good post. i learned something new so when i do use 3ad i will use a product with forskolin too.
 
So that means other SHBG inhibiting compounds such as Divanil and Testofen should stack nicely with 3AD too?
 
I don't believe Testofen works as an SHBG inhibitor, but increases free-test through other pathways to create a similar effect. But a divanil-containing compound would totally be a nice addition either during the cycle or for PCT.

I would be more after the forskolin and 25R-diol, personally.
 
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