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lozgod

lozgod

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Right now I am on Epistane and loving it. Im a week in and am getting cut up some in my arms. Strength is up slightly etc etc. Epistane as we all know is a steroid. I been away from the gym for months if not going on years. Am I taking a shortcut for lost time by using a steroid. Yes. Oh well. Such is life.


Before going with Epistane I researched all the new "innovations" in the post pro-hormone era. I wanted something natural as opposed to an androgen but as I researched I found a lot of products seemed to recycled stuff from the 80s when I was a kid looking for something to give me an edge.

Plant sterols.
Methoxys and Turkesterone.
etc.

Davanil is pretty new as far as supplementation is concerned. I noticed Universal hopped on it so it must be pretty mainstream by now. The science makes a lot of sense if the dosage is high enough. I tried Activate and wasn't too impressed at first but upped my dose to 8 pills a day and noticed some libido increase which is what I was most interested in at that time.

So th point, or better yet the question I ask is what makes MassFX Maximum Strength so special that someone shouldn't take as another Sterol with a super great marketing concept behind it?

Again it isn't to offend anyone, just trying to understand the product better.

Thanks in advance.
 
i will leave the info to the ax reps, but if you want to see how it affects or doesn't affect a normal guy like me, im doing a log so check it out. Invalid Link Removed
 
grila jujitsu said:
i will leave the info to the ax reps, but if you want to see how it affects or doesn't affect a normal guy like me, im doing a log so check it out. Invalid Link Removed
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Right about now, the testing is in its first or second week for many. Though it may be "too new" to have vasts amounts of scientific studies behind it, "anecdotal" evidence from product testers - both new and old versions - have all been very positive.
 
timdull2 said:
Right about now, the testing is in its first or second week for many. Though it may be "too new" to have vasts amounts of scientific studies behind it, "anecdotal" evidence from product testers - both new and old versions - have all been very positive.
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Its been amazing so far. I know Im loving it.
 
UNCnate said:
Its been amazing so far. I know Im loving it.
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Its early for me but i was on the Original Mass FX for about a week before i just got the new MassFX in today and all i can say is the pumps are SICK. Cant wait to see how the new stuff turns out!
 
MashedPotato said:
Lets just say MFX MAX like MFX... on steroids :p


lol (no really it is):thumbsup:
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I cant wait till it kicks in! The 25R im sure is already kicked in as i was on the original about a week before i got this in so i cant wait till this stuff kicks in!
 
lozgod said:
Thanks, good to be back. Im sore as hell though. Should of never left.
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Never had the pleasure to converse but quite a few of your informative have helped me immeasureably. Glad to see you around. Look forward to future reading.
 
lozgod said:
Right now I am on Epistane and loving it. Im a week in and am getting cut up some in my arms. Strength is up slightly etc etc. Epistane as we all know is a steroid. I been away from the gym for months if not going on years. Am I taking a shortcut for lost time by using a steroid. Yes. Oh well. Such is life.


Before going with Epistane I researched all the new "innovations" in the post pro-hormone era. I wanted something natural as opposed to an androgen but as I researched I found a lot of products seemed to recycled stuff from the 80s when I was a kid looking for something to give me an edge.

Plant sterols.
Methoxys and Turkesterone.
etc.

Davanil is pretty new as far as supplementation is concerned. I noticed Universal hopped on it so it must be pretty mainstream by now. The science makes a lot of sense if the dosage is high enough. I tried Activate and wasn't too impressed at first but upped my dose to 8 pills a day and noticed some libido increase which is what I was most interested in at that time.

So th point, or better yet the question I ask is what makes MassFX Maximum Strength so special that someone shouldn't take as another Sterol with a super great marketing concept behind it?

Again it isn't to offend anyone, just trying to understand the product better.

Thanks in advance.
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Trying to make sure I understand what you're getting at.

What makes MassFX good, I can tell you. What makes it better than anything else currently or prospectively available is a claim I don't think can be made by anyone (which is the direction your Q seems to be leading me).


MassFX employs several different mechanisms of action.

25Rdiol, first off is a derivative of diosgenin. There's been a lot of research regarding diosgenin in the past, unfortunately all the positive info is based on injections. 25Rdiol is a derivative of diosgenin which makes it more bioavailable and time-released.

Both injected diosgenin and 25Rdiol (which metabolizes into diosgenin) have been shown to increase the production of androgens, at the DHEA point. Along the cascade this results in an increase in testosterone.

Naturally, divanillylTHF works in great synergy with this, as it helps keep the increased test unbound.

Turkesterone does a great job of increasing RBC's; however, it's use in MassFX is strictly for nitrogen retention, which is very well documented.

Sea Buckthorn is one I'm not so familiar with. It functions as an adaptogen. It's constituents increase the efficiency of Ca2+ ion channels in the CNS and also inhibit SHBG.

Lastly there's Forslean, which, has been shown to increase free test by 15%. This increase is believed to be via it's ability to increase cyclic AMP. Invalid Link Removed

I hope this rambling answers some of your question. If not, feel free to ask me another.

Regards,
thesinner
 
thesinner said:
What makes it better than anything else currently or prospectively available is a claim I don't think can be made by anyone (which is the direction your Q seems to be leading me).
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Well I wasn't leading to that but Mass FX MS seems the most intriguing. Im not familiar with 25R-Diol but I am watching the logs. Thats the real proof IMO. Today was my 5th day of Epistane and I got the flu. I didn't take my dose. I think I might just leave it alone and order some Mass FX MS. Im not all for ****ing with my hormones. I've started a lot of cycles in my day and stopped because of sides. I've only done 2 complete steroid cycles in my life. I dont want to be one of these people that need HRT for life. That just doesn't seem a cool thing.
 
I want to have a Stephen Hawking quote on my ringtone.. I think I can just make one up, with that old "Talking Sam" program they used to have on the Commodore 64 computers back in the day.
 
Ubiquitous said:
I want to have a Stephen Hawking quote on my ringtone.. I think I can just make one up, with that old "Talking Sam" program they used to have on the Commodore 64 computers back in the day.
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I've always wanted a ringtone with that kinda voice saying something like "Your telephone is ringing. You might want to answer your phone. Someone is trying to call you. Ring. Ring Ring....." I'd turn it up really loud and have people call me when I'm at the movie theater.
 
Ubiquitous said:
I want to have a Stephen Hawking quote on my ringtone.. I think I can just make one up, with that old "Talking Sam" program they used to have on the Commodore 64 computers back in the day.
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lol...that would sound great. I do belive there is a program you can use to convert 8 bit sound files to ringtones.. Ill see if i can dig it up
 
thesinner said:
I've always wanted a ringtone with that kinda voice saying something like "Your telephone is ringing. You might want to answer your phone. Someone is trying to call you. Ring. Ring Ring....." I'd turn it up really loud and have people call me when I'm at the movie theater.
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LMAO, my mother in law has Jeff Dunhams "dead terrorist" dummy on her celly ring tone it goes " EEELLLLOOOOO INFIDEL!!!! your phone is RIIIIINGINIIIIIINGGG, IFNIDEL pick up the PPPHHHOOOONNNNEEE" its hilarious.
 
lozgod said:
Right now I am on Epistane and loving it. Im a week in and am getting cut up some in my arms. Strength is up slightly etc etc. Epistane as we all know is a steroid. I been away from the gym for months if not going on years. Am I taking a shortcut for lost time by using a steroid. Yes. Oh well. Such is life.


Before going with Epistane I researched all the new "innovations" in the post pro-hormone era. I wanted something natural as opposed to an androgen but as I researched I found a lot of products seemed to recycled stuff from the 80s when I was a kid looking for something to give me an edge.

Plant sterols.
Methoxys and Turkesterone.
etc.

Davanil is pretty new as far as supplementation is concerned. I noticed Universal hopped on it so it must be pretty mainstream by now. The science makes a lot of sense if the dosage is high enough. I tried Activate and wasn't too impressed at first but upped my dose to 8 pills a day and noticed some libido increase which is what I was most interested in at that time.

So th point, or better yet the question I ask is what makes MassFX Maximum Strength so special that someone shouldn't take as another Sterol with a super great marketing concept behind it?

Again it isn't to offend anyone, just trying to understand the product better.

Thanks in advance.
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Damn... blast from the past here. Welcome back.

The original MassFX was great, stacked with Hyperdrol. Great little combo there. Gets a little pricy though.

Adams
 
Loz - I can vouch for the original MassFX.

BEST non-hormonal strength increasing supp I've taken.
 
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