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Old 09-24-2007, 09:32 PM   #1
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Dr. P's Official DHEA+ATD Study Application Thread

This is a research project that wants to investigate the effects of high-dosed DHEA + ATD on body composition and strength.

Dr. P is very grateful to Patrick Arnold (Ergopharm) and Kevin Smith (Anabolic Xtreme) who are sponsoring this study. Without their contribution this project could never be realized!

We are searching 20 healthy males. If you are healthy, and willing to keep your supplements and diet constant throughout the study period of 8 weeks, you can apply here.

Please first read carefully the followoing details on the study (see below). THis thread can be used to ask all questions you might have with regards to this study and with regards to anything that may be related to your application.

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Old 09-24-2007, 09:34 PM   #2
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Excellent. Will there be logs kept, or just results announced at conclusion?
 



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Cool. Are they going to be using SDNG or just DHEA+ATD?
 



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Its interesting that its a collaboration
 



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Cool. Are they going to be using SDNG or just DHEA+ATD?
DHEA + ATD. We are supplying the raws, but it is not SDNG
 



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Its interesting that its a collaboration
isn't it...........i guess oil and water CAN mix!
 



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Woah... I'm off for one day and I miss this???

Very interesting indeed!!!
 



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I'm not sure if it's the pain medicine or if I'm dreaming! PA and Smith are t..tt....t...teaming up?

I actually think that's an awesome idea! Great news indeed!
 
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Ummmmmm.......I think i took to much melatonin last night?????????????


But really this is awesome!
 
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edit: answered my own question!
 
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I'm not sure if it's the pain medicine or if I'm dreaming! PA and Smith are t..tt....t...teaming up?

I actually think that's an awesome idea! Great news indeed!
No. He wants to show it does nothing, I want to show it does. Dr.P came to the idea. There is no team in I

It is good idea though and should be interesting if executed properly.
 
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But there is ME in Team

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No. He wants to show it does nothing, I want to show it does. Dr.P came to the idea. There is no team in I

It is good idea though and should be interesting if executed properly.
At least you are both "putting your money where your mouth is" and its not a street fight in the forums anymore
 



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At least you are both "putting your money where your mouth is" and its not a street fight in the forums anymore
And the best part - everybody wins!!!
 



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Hi, I am Dr.P, but I couldn't use it as screen name because someone else has already chosen this name, lol

I just realized that there are company subforums here at AM. I did not know this and already posted a copy of the application thread in the main supplements section as well as in the "anti-aging for ol' men" (or something like that) section. is that O.K.? or is it possibly against the rules?
Sorry, I am absolutely not familiar with the rules here at AM, so please tell me if I possibly should delete one or more of the threads. Don't want to make any trouble here.

Let me again express that I am absolutely neutral here and that I am neither affiliated with ergopharm nor with anabolic xtreme.
Personally, I have a high level of sympathy for DHEA and I believe that stacking the right doses of DHEA and ATD may be a really hot thing with regards to body recomposition.

This is why I asked whether any company would like to sponsor such kind of project.
Many thanks to Kevin Smith who almost instantly agreed to help with this project!!!
The fact that this project is also supported by Patrick Arnold (ergopharm) is of course "spicy".

The best thing, however, is when two competitors with different expectations and motivations are working on the same project this might reduce possible one-sided bias on the outcome of the study. both companies will carefully watch what the other is doing and potetnially even test each others caps for content, purity etc.

an involvement of both AX and Ergo is the best thing that could happen to such a project.


P.S. For all who like the "drama", please have a look here at this thread on bb.com:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4774483

Just sit back, relax, take your popcorn and enjoy!