Trisorbagen

**stxnas** · 08-22-2007, 10:35 AM

I've seen it advertised for $25.

Erik2003 · 08-23-2007, 08:09 PM

I hit the gym this morning and wanted to push it.

Flat Dmbl bench: 60x8, 70x8, 80x8 then hit 105x2, then down to 100x4, x2 then 90x5. I must admit my 105 was alittle sloppy but still got the weight up. This was more volume than normal for a max effort lift.

My Bradford Press is up ten pounds - but I am not concentrating on it like the Dmbl Bench.

My body feels much more dense -such a nice feeling. Fat loss slight, but hell with the way I eat this is pretty good.

Agression is there but very controllable and nothing to worry about. Normally I would have had a small outburst with all the stupid sh%$ New Yorkers are so good at. Now I am just pumped to hit the gym.

Hope my few log entries have helped someone make an informed decision regarding this product. My stack is pretty good but I think the over all dossages is rather mild and thus Trisorbagen has really helped maximize the benefits therein.

I read someone wants to do a superdrol and Trisorbagen stack. That has got to be sick - I hope you work the hell out of it. Would be doing that now, but a wedding in October forces me to save it for later. Yep, will have to try my superdrol clone for November.

Last, I hope someone does blood work with Trisorbagen. It would be interesting. I have not done so, and believe it would prove alot of the benefits of the product.

Good luck...

Good luck on that SD stack though.

Erik2003 · 08-23-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by animalXXX

So once Trisorbagen comes out i would like to do a superdrol cycle with it. My question is, can I take caffeine with Trisorbagen? Also Trisorbagen doesn't affect the BP, right?

Thanks

From my personal experience, I take alot of caffeine in the AM, about four cups of coffee. But I lift at 6:30 A.M. And need it to get ready for the gym (I am old -38 - lol). However, I have not noticed any side effects that suggest any dange in taking caffeine.

As for BP, sorry cannot tell, I think it may affect it slightly as I amplifies the effect of the underlying product.

Good luck, I am sure you will like this, alot...

NeedleDick · 08-26-2007, 04:06 PM

Would trisorbagen be more effective, equal, or less effective than the transdermal route?

**DR.D** · 08-26-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik2003

From my personal experience, I take alot of caffeine in the AM, about four cups of coffee. But I lift at 6:30 A.M. And need it to get ready for the gym (I am old -38 - lol). However, I have not noticed any side effects that suggest any dange in taking caffeine.

As for BP, sorry cannot tell, I think it may affect it slightly as I amplifies the effect of the underlying product.

Good luck, I am sure you will like this, alot...

Trisob boosts caffeine also because it's a CYP1A2 inhibitor! You may only need 3 cups of coffee now, or find that 4 lasts longer and/or more intense than before, so be cautious. Like you say it's not dangerous, just might get a little shaky. Evening sleeplessness would not be an issue since you drink it so early in the morning.

**DR.D** · 08-26-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedleDick

Would trisorbagen be more effective, equal, or less effective than the transdermal route?

It's hard to quantitate because so many factors are involved, but you have the right idea. It does improve efficiency mg/mg like transdermals usually do too.

Erik2003 · 08-26-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DR.D

Trisob boosts caffeine also because it's a CYP1A2 inhibitor! You may only need 3 cups of coffee now, or find that 4 lasts longer and/or more intense than before, so be cautious. Like you say it's not dangerous, just might get a little shaky. Evening sleeplessness would not be an issue since you drink it so early in the morning.

Sir,

Your input explains alot, I can see this from my experience in taking Trisob. It really is a good undercover agent.

However, you should not have said that it helps coffee even though it kicks coffee up a notch, because these AMer's will be taking Trisob like candy, to get a kick out of coffee, PH's and everything, lol!

Now, I also have to research CYP1A2 inhibitor as your input always ends up in homework... Thanks for the solid value input.

Respectfully,
Erik

**DR.D** · 08-26-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik2003

... your input always ends up in homework...

Haha, well I hope that's a good thing Erik my friend! Some guys here really don't care for homework, but you're right, it would be more responsible of me to offer an elaboration now:

You can probably lower your typical dose of caffeine, or enjoy the extra kick you get from your standard dose. Just keep a sensible balance to this and do not intentionally abuse Trisorb! Rather use it as a tool to boost effects and get the most of your supps. Substrates metabolized by the P450 isozymes CYP1A2 and CYP3A4 may be substantially elevated using Trisob, but it is commonly noted that this rarely if ever results in any serious side effects for some reason. Review this list of possible Rx interaction candidates, and consult your doc first if you have any questions about a drug on this list (see link below).

I can usually help if you PM me with a question and am glad to offer any insights I may have, but it is strictly my opinion and not a substitute for what your current physician suggests!

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com...9%2F7509r2.pdf
(this relates to grapefruit specifically, but the list is still applicable to our discussion)

**BigBoy12** · 08-27-2007, 09:35 PM

Just received my Trisorb...

Few questions:

1. Are the caps suppose to be so brittle (several broken upon delivery?

2. Are they suppose to be clear caps?

BigSmith · 08-27-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBoy12

Just received my Trisorb...

Few questions:

1. Are the caps suppose to be so brittle (several broken upon delivery?

2. Are they suppose to be clear caps?

1. No, they should not be that brittle. How many?

2. I thought they were supposed to be white caps (which the dark contents show through a bit)

EDIT: I think you got one of our trial run bottles. They used clear caps and just ran about 20 bottles for us to try. Caps were just leftovers and might be brittle.

Erik2003 · 08-28-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBoy12

Just received my Trisorb...

Few questions:

1. Are the caps suppose to be so brittle (several broken upon delivery?

2. Are they suppose to be clear caps?

I checked my bottle just to help out...

None of my caps were/are brittle nor broken.

My caps were clear with a dark filler.

Effects: My squats went way up. A few weeks ago my max rep was 355. Monday I hit 385. Feel good about that.

**RoadBlocK** · 08-28-2007, 10:31 PM

HAHA, BigSmith, you find anymore of these broken and brittle old trail bottles lying around feel free to send one my way.

**BigBoy12** · 08-28-2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSmith

1. No, they should not be that brittle. How many?

2. I thought they were supposed to be white caps (which the dark contents show through a bit)

EDIT: I think you got one of our trial run bottles. They used clear caps and just ran about 20 bottles for us to try. Caps were just leftovers and might be brittle.

6 broken and they are clear caps... I just took the powder and rubbed it on my gums (just kidding)

Some of the caps even look like they have more product than others.. very strange. Almost to the point were the cap isn't together.

I thought this was going to be one of the ones that you guys just got in. Either way, I'm still satisfied with being a "logger"

I appreciate all that AX (product and Crew) has done for me!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BigSmith again.

BigSmith · 08-29-2007, 12:23 AM

One of our owners updated me that they sent 24 more "trial" units that had old caps and that is what you were sent. If it has clear caps that is what you have.

The retail version is white caps. Formula is the same, enjoy

**BigBoy12** · 08-29-2007, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSmith

One of our owners updated me that they sent 24 more "trial" units that had old caps and that is what you were sent. If it has clear caps that is what you have.

The retail version is white caps. Formula is the same, enjoy

Trust me, I'll enjoy every last cap!

Thanks again...

**DR.D** · 08-29-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik2003

... Effects: My squats went way up. A few weeks ago my max rep was 355. Monday I hit 385. Feel good about that.

Wow, that's a good jump on squats for just 2 weeks!

**bioman** · 08-29-2007, 01:10 PM

Cool stuff. Have to give it a whirl during my PCT.