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  1.  12-06-2007  05:39 PM
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    i would almost say the torem could be responsible. But, i'm not an expert in that arena. i'll try to get a more knowledgeable person in here.



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    Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    i would almost say the torem could be responsible. But, i'm not an expert in that arena. i'll try to get a more knowledgeable person in here.
    Anything is possible, however I started the HDX2/FX a week before the Torem and that's when the sleep problems started to present themselves. Not pointing fingers, just providing details.

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    Are you taking GABA before bed, by any chance?
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    Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Are you taking GABA before bed, by any chance?
    Nope, just Torem and a single tab of HDX2&FX...oh and a Lunesta so that I can get some rest!

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    Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    i'm currently taking 12 HD X-2 and 5 MassFX and have no issues. Actually find that i sleep better. I take 3 HD pre-bed just for that deep sleep effect, too.

    Are you taking any other supps?
    12 HD? Aren't you lowering estrogen a little TOO much.

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    Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    i'm currently taking 12 HD X-2 and 5 MassFX and have no issues. Actually find that i sleep better. I take 3 HD pre-bed just for that deep sleep effect, too.

    Are you taking any other supps?
    I was taking 12 caps Massfx for like a week, i dunno how but i somehow thought that 4 caps was a serving and had to do 3 servings a day, i dunno if i was tired or what when i read the label. But anyways 12 caps felt good.

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    Originally Posted by twswift View Post
    Anything is possible, however I started the HDX2/FX a week before the Torem and that's when the sleep problems started to present themselves. Not pointing fingers, just providing details.
    not accusing you of anything, just trying to help and get to the root of the problem.

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    Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    12 HD? Aren't you lowering estrogen a little TOO much.
    just a little experiment i am trying for a month. My hypothesis is that the more the merrier..........we'll see.

    Dr. D has done something similar and is what prompted me to do this myself.

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    Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    not accusing you of anything, just trying to help and get to the root of the problem.
    Didn't think you were, I was just trying to keep everything neutral without jumping to any (of my own) conclusions.

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    Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    I was taking 12 caps Massfx for like a week, i dunno how but i somehow thought that 4 caps was a serving and had to do 3 servings a day, i dunno if i was tired or what when i read the label. But anyways 12 caps felt good.
    i think i'll try that..........THANKS!

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    you know its funny i have been taking about 5 caps of mas fx a day and only thing i have felt like doing is chocking my boss and slapping the **** out of some people that piss me off. my fuse has been, well i dont have a fuse anymore. Gas? well i do eat alot of broccoli so... you be the judge. I cant say i have felt anything else workouts have been strange some have been good some have been bad. i have noticed the change in my body and with in the next week i will be done with my 6 week stack i gained a lean 8 lbs and noticed a big change in my muscle fullness and size. one question when can i start my next stack, also can i double the dose on retain, mass fx and H2????? cause i feel like i could have done better, my diet was on point and work out was good but realy didnt feel much.

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    Originally Posted by jbarriga777 View Post
    you know its funny i have been taking about 5 caps of mas fx a day and only thing i have felt like doing is chocking my boss and slapping the **** out of some people that piss me off. my fuse has been, well i dont have a fuse anymore. Gas? well i do eat alot of broccoli so... you be the judge. I cant say i have felt anything else workouts have been strange some have been good some have been bad. i have noticed the change in my body and with in the next week i will be done with my 6 week stack i gained a lean 8 lbs and noticed a big change in my muscle fullness and size. one question when can i start my next stack, also can i double the dose on retain, mass fx and H2????? cause i feel like i could have done better, my diet was on point and work out was good but realy didnt feel much.
    8lbs of lean mass is damn good results, nice work.

    You could go right into Retain and Hypderdrol for the next 6 weeks, if you really wanted to.

    I would recommend waiting a month (best to take at least a month off between cycles of MassFX, Hyperdrol,SuperdrolNG, and Retain2.)

    Double Dosing is not a problem. In fact, (though not recommended) a few of the AX reps have done TRIPLE the dose .
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    so when it says take one pill four times a day,i could take 2 pills four times a day right? so when i am done with mass fx i could continue reatain and H2? cool cause im going to run out of mass fx first then h2 then retain. can you give me a good way to to take double the dose? i need an on point schedule for the whole cycle cause when i am done i will wait a month then get right back on. thanks for you help

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    Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    8lbs of lean mass is damn good results, nice work.

    You could go right into Retain and Hypderdrol for the next 6 weeks, if you really wanted to.

    I would recommend waiting a month (best to take at least a month off between cycles of MassFX, Hyperdrol,SuperdrolNG, and Retain2.)

    Double Dosing is not a problem. In fact, (though not recommended) a few of the AX reps have done TRIPLE the dose .
    hmmmmmm...........WHO could you be talking about!?!?!?!

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    so mace daddy how did u stack it????

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    Originally Posted by jbarriga777 View Post
    so mace daddy how did u stack it????
    12 HD per day for a week -- 2 pills with each meal
    then added the MassFX in at 6 per day -- 1 pill with each meal
    Retain was also 6 per day -- 2 morning, 2 preworkout, 2 postworkout

    IT WAS AMAZING! Libido was through the roof!

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    im going to try that in about a month. how did the mass fx work for you on your workout days macedaddy

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    Originally Posted by jbarriga777 View Post
    im going to try that in about a month. how did the mass fx work for you on your workout days macedaddy
    i think that MassFX is the best pre-workout pump/energy supplement there is, once it kicks in ofcourse. But if you dose like i did, then starting your MassFX a week later, it kicks in RIGHT AWAY! it was literally amazing!

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