differances between old and new stimX
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PumpingIron
Well-known member
wait, when did oyu order this new bottle?
AX said they were coming out with a new formula. More potent. I just didn't think it was out yet.
AX said they were coming out with a new formula. More potent. I just didn't think it was out yet.
djremix
Active member
~10 days ago
havent tried it yet.
im actually thinking of switching up stims like mad.
instead of 2 pills of adipo daily im thinking...
1 day adipo
next day NYC+
next day ECA
next day syntrax Fyre
next day AX stim-x
maybe this will keep tolerance a tiny bit down for each.
dont think there is much cross tolerance except for the caffeine up there.
good? bad? ugl?
havent tried it yet.
im actually thinking of switching up stims like mad.
instead of 2 pills of adipo daily im thinking...
1 day adipo
next day NYC+
next day ECA
next day syntrax Fyre
next day AX stim-x
maybe this will keep tolerance a tiny bit down for each.
dont think there is much cross tolerance except for the caffeine up there.
good? bad? ugl?
macedaddy
Board Sponsor
we have NOT released stimulant x 2.0
what he has is the stimulant X that we added cocoalean too. if you notice, the ingredients should be different.
the addition of cocoalean was for additional fat burning properties.
the NEW one (Stimulant X 2.0 will have a BLACK BOTTLE) will be out of this world! IT is a complete redesign of the formula!
what he has is the stimulant X that we added cocoalean too. if you notice, the ingredients should be different.
the addition of cocoalean was for additional fat burning properties.
the NEW one (Stimulant X 2.0 will have a BLACK BOTTLE) will be out of this world! IT is a complete redesign of the formula!
djremix
Active member
ok now im confused. the new bottle is bigger but has the same ingredients on the label. exactly the same except for the blend being 310mg instead of 200mg. no mention of cocolean.
must be some label error. yeah?
scott72
Board Supporter
What are you guys looking at for a release date? I tried Stim X for the first time a month ago, and wow..Amazing product..Totally killed food cravings and I dropped fat like crazy..Can't wait for the improved version..
Aeternitatis
Registered User
I want some! If I dont get it soon I might relapse into my bag of mexican benzedrine.
rampage jackson
Registered User
Hey mace: I've been thinking...any chance or sourcing a bulk 2.0 from you so I can just snort it?
Apowerz6
Board Sponsor
I hope you were playing bud, but AX has never Bulk powdered anything. I wish we could for my own personal usage :lol: I would be capping King!!!
macedaddy
Board Sponsor
ok so i tried one from the new batch this morning. empty stomach. feels the same. but thats expected and is a good thing
i also double checked the bottle.
it is bigger
pill are bigger and colored
label dont mention cocolean.so i must have an early production one..
cioa
Well, i just got an update while at the Arnold! we went back to the previous formual without the cocoalean!
so you have the "good" stuff!
sorry for all the confusion! :box:
PumpingIron
Well-known member
Nice, I love this stuff...you shouldn't mess with perfection...
Oh and why did you choose to take out cocalean?
Oh and why did you choose to take out cocalean?
BigDog77
New member
Wtf
This thread is messed up. A rep from AX says one thing then another and then corrects that too! I have a bottle of Stim-x that contains red pills and the label has cocoalean as an ingredient. The 4 new bottles I just received a few days ago all have red and white pills and the label does not list cocoalean but they are 310mg just like the bottle with Cocoalean on the label. Add to that the Stim-x website - Invalid Link Removed raves about cocoalean as an ingedient that makes the product better than the others:
What’s the secret? StimulantX™ is the only pill to contain both Cocoalean™ and Aneurin DBE™. And Cocoalean is listed in the ingredients.
The site also shows the old and the new bottle. So please MACEDADDY clarify that since the new formula has not been released, is the stim-x information on the site referencing the new or old formula? Also answer if the label does not have Cocoalean listed but the amount is 310mg., is Cocoalean in the proprietary matrix then?
BigDog
This thread is messed up. A rep from AX says one thing then another and then corrects that too! I have a bottle of Stim-x that contains red pills and the label has cocoalean as an ingredient. The 4 new bottles I just received a few days ago all have red and white pills and the label does not list cocoalean but they are 310mg just like the bottle with Cocoalean on the label. Add to that the Stim-x website - Invalid Link Removed raves about cocoalean as an ingedient that makes the product better than the others:
What’s the secret? StimulantX™ is the only pill to contain both Cocoalean™ and Aneurin DBE™. And Cocoalean is listed in the ingredients.
The site also shows the old and the new bottle. So please MACEDADDY clarify that since the new formula has not been released, is the stim-x information on the site referencing the new or old formula? Also answer if the label does not have Cocoalean listed but the amount is 310mg., is Cocoalean in the proprietary matrix then?
BigDog
macedaddy
Board Sponsor
if you RE-READ my post above, i just said that i found out that we did infact REMOVE the cocoalean! The Arnold Classic was just this past weekend when i heard form the President of the company that cocoalean was removed!
The new formula will be COMPLETELY different! the website is referring to current product which NOW has the cocoalean removed!
ATLEAST I ADMIT MY MISTAKES!
The new formula will be COMPLETELY different! the website is referring to current product which NOW has the cocoalean removed!
ATLEAST I ADMIT MY MISTAKES!
BigSmith
Well-known member
BigDog, I did not have great communication with Mace. If your bottle says it has cocoalean then it does. If your bottle does not say cocoalean then it does not. We did keep a little bit more of one ingredient in the new no Cocoalean formula keeping it at 310mg. Its basically just more of the time release ingredient and has no effect over feel.
Because some people have not enjoyed that addition (cocoalean) we have pulled it out of the product until StimX 2.0 is released. I apologize for the confusion.
BigDog77
New member
If the website in fact does refer to the current version, then why does it reference Cocoalean if it has been removed? Perhaps it has not been updated? I don't want to get into a pissing match here because the fact is I love Stim-x and so does my wife and a bunch of other people I have turned on to it. I was just surprised that the 5 bottles I recently purchased do not contain Cocoalean and one of the reasons I believed in the product was based on what I read about Cocoalean. I probably would have not ordered 5 bottles and would have waited until the new version came out that has Cocoalean. I have been using the version with Cocoalean and now I am skeptical to take it without it since it is not the same as what I have been taking. Make sense?
Read the quote below as it is from the Stim-x website and tell me how someone would not be upset that Cocoalean was removed?
"What’s the secret? StimulantX™ is the only pill to contain both Cocoalean™ and Aneurin DBE™. When these patent pending ingredients are combined your mood is elevated, and you are filled with positive energy. Suddenly the urge to snack or binge is gone and you are left feeling great the entire day."
So I pose the question, why take out Cocalean if your website lists as a fact that when it is combined with Aneurin DBE......?
I can't understand taking Cocoalean out for some people that are non-responders at the risk of upsetting the majority of the people that like the product the way it is. I am not sure if NP will give a refund based on false advertising. Their website mentions that the product contains Cocoalean and what I received does in fact not have it. This is all around bad business. In my line of work I could not remove a feature or some form of software functionality because some clients did not like it and continue to sell it as we had originally marketed it.
Last question - so how was the general public supposed to have known that Cocoalean was removed from Stim-x? They can't from the official website nor could they from the companies selling it?
Read the quote below as it is from the Stim-x website and tell me how someone would not be upset that Cocoalean was removed?
"What’s the secret? StimulantX™ is the only pill to contain both Cocoalean™ and Aneurin DBE™. When these patent pending ingredients are combined your mood is elevated, and you are filled with positive energy. Suddenly the urge to snack or binge is gone and you are left feeling great the entire day."
So I pose the question, why take out Cocalean if your website lists as a fact that when it is combined with Aneurin DBE......?
I can't understand taking Cocoalean out for some people that are non-responders at the risk of upsetting the majority of the people that like the product the way it is. I am not sure if NP will give a refund based on false advertising. Their website mentions that the product contains Cocoalean and what I received does in fact not have it. This is all around bad business. In my line of work I could not remove a feature or some form of software functionality because some clients did not like it and continue to sell it as we had originally marketed it.
Last question - so how was the general public supposed to have known that Cocoalean was removed from Stim-x? They can't from the official website nor could they from the companies selling it?
Apowerz6
Board Sponsor
Its very simple. The red pills have cocoalean in them, the red and white do not, and the red and white pill bottle says nothing about the cocoalean. Yes it could have been handled differently but to sort it all out the bottles are stating correct facts, and sorry that you had to learn that cocoalean was removed at your expense, but no one is trying to be false in dealing with you, nor are we trying to hide something.
BigSmith
Well-known member
It has not been updated. We are just about to launch 2.0 so we are waiting to release that site in the coming few days.
I am sorry you are unhappy with your purchase. NP will give you a refund or you can contact us directly. We did not do this for a small portion of people. We had MANY people that did not like the new formula. So just a couple of weeks ago we started shipping the original formula. StimulantX is less about an added or removed ingredient but a feeling. StimulantX (original) was one of the biggest hits in the industry and now the original is back.
2.0 starts shipping in another couple weeks.
djremix
Active member
now this is weird.
remember ergo AMP? i was one of the first few to try it our
the beta came in seperate pill. with the cocolean alone.
i tried a little of the main ingredient and felt the energy.
got excited and wanted to see how the whole formula works out. so i downed it all.
result?
nada. very little in energy, i was less tired but thats about it.
so i guess the cocolean would have cancelled stimx for me too!
any idea why this is happening? maybe patrik arnold figured it out by now? :cheers:
remember ergo AMP? i was one of the first few to try it our
the beta came in seperate pill. with the cocolean alone.
i tried a little of the main ingredient and felt the energy.
got excited and wanted to see how the whole formula works out. so i downed it all.
result?
nada. very little in energy, i was less tired but thats about it.
so i guess the cocolean would have cancelled stimx for me too!
any idea why this is happening? maybe patrik arnold figured it out by now? :cheers:
PumpingIron
Well-known member
yea, it'd be sweet to see some science behind the cocalean being responsible for this result...if possible...
BigDog77
New member
I just found a thread on another bboard that pretty much sums it all up. I look forward to trying the original version without Cocoalean. I was confused as to how AX had information on their website praising the synergistic combination of Cocoalean and Aneurin DBE only to get product without Cocoalean. For what its worth, I feel that the Stim-x with Cocoalean works great. Has there been any information on the effects of Cocoalean? I coulg not find anything on google.
BigSmith
Well-known member
Just FYI I found we have 2 cases of the cocoalean in the warehouse. If you like I can switch the product out for you. OR try the current bottles you have, if you don't like them we can switch them for you. Just let us know.
BigDog77
New member
I will go with the bottles without the Cocoalean but as I posted before, would like to know why the Cocoalean was removed, especially since the synergistic effects were touted on the Stimulant-X website. I read the thread over at the other bb.oard and most people felt that it was stronger without Cocoalean, so I am looking forward to it. I was just trying to be certain that I wasn't missing out in something (Cocoalean)that has helped me lose 52 pounds already. Is it possible that the Cocoalean aids more with fatloss even at the expense of not feeling as strong as the pills without it? I guess I will try the new stuff and get back to you if I feel that it is not working as well as the version with Cocoalean. Lastly, can the claims of the synergistic effect with Aleurin DBE be substantiated and if so maybe there should be 2 versions: 1 for those who don't want to sleep and experience the fight or flight syndrome and a second version with Cocoalean that seems to liberate fat cells etc.
rampage jackson
Registered User
Bigdog: Did you order direct from AX? If not, is is not the fault of the company you ordered from for not updating their site?
BigDog77
New member
RJ-
Initially I did order my first couple of bottles from AX and I do understand your point but to that effect, nothing was stated anywhere on AX's or the resellers site of a new formula sans Cocoalean. I just checked AX and NP and they both still list Cocoalean as a listed ingredient. This is no longer an issue since the version without Cocoalean seems to work fo rme as well. I am still looking forward to the next version.
Initially I did order my first couple of bottles from AX and I do understand your point but to that effect, nothing was stated anywhere on AX's or the resellers site of a new formula sans Cocoalean. I just checked AX and NP and they both still list Cocoalean as a listed ingredient. This is no longer an issue since the version without Cocoalean seems to work fo rme as well. I am still looking forward to the next version.
BigDog77
New member
Count me in as a tester for X2. I should be getting commission checks for turning so many people on to Stimulant-X. I lived on ephedrine for years during and after college (football and bouncing) and my wife bought a ton of it right before the ban and I actually prefer StimX over ephedrine any day. StimX does not make my junk shrink up. After taking ephedrine for so long, I am pretty sure my adrenal glands were tapped out and it woul dmake me tired instead. Plus playing football in 100 degree heat and taking ephedrine is not a good idea. I have seen way too many big lineman pass out while on it.
BigSmith
Well-known member
poopypants
Banned
i ws one of the first testers from the first stimx givin to me by c-los21 and id have to say its the strongest shii ive ever used... everyone ive turned onto it loves it and wont take anyhting but it.... dont cry about no cocoalean as its just fine and perf. w/o it in my opinion...
macedaddy
Board Sponsor
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livebono
Member
some people can't handle it without food....
whatever works for you is fine! The reason that you describe that you like it, is one of the reasons we list to take it with food, on an empty stomach the product is absorbed much more quickly.
Thanks, I'll keep taking it on an empty stomach, because that works better for me, and doesn't bother my stomach at all
P.S. This stuff is AMAZING, energy all day!:dance:
poopypants
Banned
yeah the first couple days if i dosed w/o food i got an almost euphoric feeling , kinda liked it, kinda kept me up for 24 hours..... so i went to 1 pill only with food and it worked great.
my girls mom takes it as she has back probs and is on a constant pers. of Vic. and needed something to even her out and help slim down.... she could only take one and still would stay up till 2 every night on the comp cause she had the energy.... NOT cause she couldnt sleep though... in fact i slept very restfully while on a moderate dose and then woke up good to go.
my girls mom takes it as she has back probs and is on a constant pers. of Vic. and needed something to even her out and help slim down.... she could only take one and still would stay up till 2 every night on the comp cause she had the energy.... NOT cause she couldnt sleep though... in fact i slept very restfully while on a moderate dose and then woke up good to go.
rampage jackson
Registered User
I've been thinking of throwing down some GTE or E with my StimX, but I'm afraid of the cottonmouth...
dwb
New member
some people can't handle it without food....
whatever works for you is fine! The reason that you describe that you like it, is one of the reasons we list to take it with food, on an empty stomach the product is absorbed much more quickly.
i take 2 on a empty stomach , the only thing i have noticed is get the energy way quicker than when i take with food :head:
Vinny
Member
I love it without cocolean . Find its much better and no dry mouth. Infact bought a few of this new version but know some love cocolean.
Problem with this company is that they change formula few times and if you buy over the internet you dont know it. I think they should have different color bottles ,etc or just list new version on it so people dont buy it and regret it.
I have lost count how many times they have changed formulas