Mass fx and high tech anavar the same?

Dr Nick · 12-09-2006, 04:04 AM

mass fx=(3b,5a,6a,25R)-Spirostan-3,6-diol
"High tech"Anavar=25R, Spirostan-5A-Diol-6-one-3-one

Is this the same ingredience?
I thought that mass fx was first containing it?
or have i got everything wrong?

Oswizle · 12-09-2006, 05:07 AM

dude i was thinking the same thing..because i doubt thats how u really write that chemical compound upl...u know they wanna write it in a way where it cant be Copied...who wants to take a supplement that u cant get any info on what it does to u ...

macedaddy · 12-09-2006, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Nick

mass fx=(3b,5a,6a,25R)-Spirostan-3,6-diol
"High tech"Anavar=25R, Spirostan-5A-Diol-6-one-3-one

Is this the same ingredience?
I thought that mass fx was first containing it?
or have i got everything wrong?

WRONG! You cna't mess with a chemical structure name! If you rewrite it, it is different. If you put it on your label wrong, than you are mis representing your product. There is NOTHING out there that the "same" as FX.

Don't worry, i should have a FAQ and/or write-up next week.

Dr Nick · 12-09-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by macedaddy

WRONG! You cna't mess with a chemical structure name! If you rewrite it, it is different. If you put it on your label wrong, than you are mis representing your product. There is NOTHING out there that the "same" as FX.

Don't worry, i should have a FAQ and/or write-up next week.

Ok!thanks!
I hope i recive my mass fx friday!
reps..

macedaddy · 12-09-2006, 08:25 AM

no problem.
Keep us updated with your progress!

Dr Nick · 12-09-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by macedaddy

no problem.
Keep us updated with your progress!

Will do!

BigSmith · 12-09-2006, 10:29 AM

From my understanding............

I believe the compound in Anavar is the 6-keto version of this compound. The 6-Keto is a primary oxidative metabolite of 25R-diol. 25R-diol has more activity on it's own with the same or better benefits and a longer active half-life.

Like I have said before we did not invent this compound. It may have been used before in something I don't know. What we did bring to the table is this synthesis that freaking works. We went though many kg's of unusable raw materials until we got it right. In the end it all comes down to the method of production yielding a quality final product. So to summarize we did not invent 25R-diol (a Russian scientist did). We DID invent the synth that makes it work though. I have never seen a natural product yield results like Mass FX, never.

anadrol75 · 12-09-2006, 11:01 AM

What would be a good addition to this?

BigSmith · 12-09-2006, 11:06 AM

To Mass FX? Hyperdrol

It is a good idea to stack a solid AI with MFX to control any possible estro related sides.

macedaddy · 12-11-2006, 04:26 PM

Hyperdrol and Retain work VERY well with MassFX.

Sldge · 01-15-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSmith

From my understanding............

I believe the compound in Anavar is the 6-keto version of this compound. The 6-Keto is a primary oxidative metabolite of 25R-diol. 25R-diol has more activity on it's own with the same or better benefits and a longer active half-life.

Like I have said before we did not invent this compound. It may have been used before in something I don't know. What we did bring to the table is this synthesis that freaking works. We went though many kg's of unusable raw materials until we got it right. In the end it all comes down to the method of production yielding a quality final product. So to summarize we did not invent 25R-diol (a Russian scientist did). We DID invent the synth that makes it work though. I have never seen a natural product yield results like Mass FX, never.

Can you post some of the studies/info. you have found for (3b,5a,6a,25R)-Spirostan-3,6-diol? There doesnt seem to be any out there, atleast in pubmed.

BigSmith · 01-15-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Designer Supps

Can you post some of the studies/info. you have found for (3b,5a,6a,25R)-Spirostan-3,6-diol? There doesnt seem to be any out there, atleast in pubmed.

Some studies for DS? We have posted about all of the info we are going to right now in various threads. Our next product design is coming from the initial document that tipped us off to this synth. So no, probably not.

There are also a few Russian studies you can find or pay for that are translated.

Would it not be much more professional to email or call us if you really wanted some more information?

thebigt · 01-16-2007, 03:58 PM

am currently on day 6 of hyperdrol/mass fx/retain. had some retain left after pct, about to run out. before i reorder retain what are the benifits of including it in this stack. just want to be sure its worth it. trying to get the most out of this stack, so far i havent noticed a lot although i can tell it is working just mild effects. looking forward to weeks 2 and 3. btw am taking 2 retain per day.

BigSmith · 01-16-2007, 04:44 PM

Interesting thread choice to add that question in. Anyways, yes Retain is an excellent item that can control cortisol when on PCT. I would not PCT without it.

thesinner · 01-16-2007, 05:32 PM

Pay attention to the numbers in the compounds, and their relationships to suffixes.

Just because a compound has a -spiro-, -one-, and a -diol- suffix does not mean that there's only one compound with a spiro, one, and diol attached to it.

Sldge · 01-22-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSmith

Some studies for DS? We have posted about all of the info we are going to right now in various threads. Our next product design is coming from the initial document that tipped us off to this synth. So no, probably not.

There are also a few Russian studies you can find or pay for that are translated.

Would it not be much more professional to email or call us if you really wanted some more information?

Its unprofessional to ask about studies of a compound you are using in AX product, in AX forum, in a post about that specific compound? Are you serious? I also didnt realize that this was you Kevin. Had I would have just called you.
But it seemed as though this was something everyone else in this thread was looking for, including myself. I looked for it before I posted but couldnt find it and thought this was the correct place to post such a question. Obviously not. No problem.

macedaddy · 01-22-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Designer Supps

Its unprofessional to ask about studies of a compound you are using in AX product, in AX forum, in a post about that specific compound? Are you serious? I also didnt realize that this was you Kevin. Had I would have just called you.
But it seemed as though this was something everyone else in this thread was looking for, including myself. I looked for it before I posted but couldnt find it and thought this was the correct place to post such a question. Obviously not. No problem.

It is unprofessional for a competeing company to ask about the nature of the compound so they could potentially steal it.

But it is totally fine if you are asking as a customer! See the difference?

either way, i doubt it will be released......