[6paq]

Originally Posted by oparedes

Do you know any similar products ?

just as effective?

Don't want any protein or creatine stuff, that's prehistoric.

As prehistoric as you want to stake claims, both are proven to do what they were designed to do. Both are naturally produced and chemically digestible in the human body. Neither have side effects that are severe or detrimental to organs and its systems. Have you heard of tried and true? Most of the new products are the market are in the form or marketing ploys. Along with the fact that many people have psychological issues when they buy a new product, they tend to think its really working when in all actuality they are just pushing themselves harder. Some work, some make money thats just how businesses market and pay the bills.

[houseofpainhulk]

no creatine? thats just crazy talk!!!

[oparedes]

I guess I just never seen any real gains frome creatine, besides, from what I've read, creatine is more for recuperation then anything right?

isn't L Glutamine better for that?

[oparedes]

I guess I just never seen any real gains frome creatine, besides, from what I've read, creatine is more for recuperation then anything right?

isn't L Glutamine better for that?

[hardknock]

^U might wanna just do some reading in the suppliments articles and check out the nutrition forum; it would be well helpful..believe me..


But, BigVrunga? Was it you that said hyperdrol would be better for a younger person, say 21-29 and that JW would be more fit for someone that has thier natural test levels down, say a 33-40 year old?

If not, hopefully someone chims in and answers which is better for an over 33years old, vs under 29?

I was thinking that JW raises the test level BACk to where it would naturally be...so that would mean JW might be better for older individuals?

[BigVrunga]

But, BigVrunga? Was it you that said hyperdrol would be better for a younger person, say 21-29 and that JW would be more fit for someone that has thier natural test levels down, say a 33-40 year old?

I dont think I said that - I commeneted that Hyperdrol contains an aromatase inhibitor, I think i was responding to a poster inquiring if hyperdrol was safe for teenagers.

Hyperdrol is basically going to work like the NHA stack with Cissus and Camphobolic thrown in. Im running something sorta-similar to it at the moment, without as much estrogen suppression and the results have been good.

I cant wait to try out the final product, though.

BV

[hardknock]

NVM it was CDB mentioning that, before you mentioned about binding to the SHBG....

[Jason_L]

Originally Posted by oparedes

Ok,

then educate me, what's a good diet to follow ?

I eat tons of protein and carbohydrates, but I have a super fast metabolism (not to mention lactose intolerant)

what would you recomend.

and don't get me wrong, right now I weight 175 and Im only 5"4

Body fat is only at 8 %, my bench press is at 360.

but it's taken me years to get to that point.

?????
super fast metabolism? with those stats? If this is true, then you deserve some props to be where you are at.

No results from an 8 week test cycle? It was your test my friend. Andriol has a very iffy/spotty record, and that's just at HRT doses! I think if you were on a "normal" test cycle for 8 weeks, with proper diet, you would be singing a very different tune indeed.