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Would 3-AD be the best choice for me?

JW390898

JW390898

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I have not taken any form of PH for just over a year now, with the last being two pulse cycles of Epistane (well one was Havoc) - which was decent but I felt like my body didnt appreciate me for it and swore to leave all such products alone.

I did take Oxodrol-12 (Superdrol clone) the year before that but suffered terribly with acne - something that I have always been prone to in my life, and would never go back to any clones or same chemical based product. Plus I dont like the idea of taking something you have to spend 10x the amount on for products to counter it, milk thistle here a bottle of perfect cyclle CQ-10 and so on etc

Im 30 years old and lift 3x a week
6ft 2" and 190lbs

The only way I would take a ph now is if it is known to be mild as I do not want to experience anything more than mild acne breakouts and no longer want to wait on overseas shipments for what I trust is genuine Nolva or Tamoxifen etc to have to use afterwards.

So basically I want a mild PH that is not renowned for turning your face and shoulders into a join the dots book while also needing nothing other and OTC PTC - I would opt for the AX APCT as it seems logical especially when not the dearest either!

I am hoping to get and keep about 5lbs LBM increase taking 4 caps a day for the 3 weeks - I have on route already a whole sh1t load of protein, BCAA'S, CEE, Glutamine and ZMA so am well set up for providing all the regular supps, I always eat clean and 5-7 meals a day depending on work schedule anyway and would take UDO'S Choice with my 3-AD for the fat absorbtion, maybe some cashews if out.

Is this the product for these expectations and is 5lbs good quality weight realistic and achievable?

All opinions welcome!
 
In a word, YES!! I think that 5lbs on a solid routine/diet with 3-AD in that time frame is definitely achievable and maintainable! For your size, 4/day would be the correct dosing. Follow it up with 30 days of aPCT and you're set.

3-AD is getting to be known as "mild" because it doesn't have the side effects or hazards of the other things you've tried. I don't agree with that. If anything, the sides are mild, but the results can be pretty stellar. Some have experienced better than others, but the potential is definitely there.

AX has taken great strides to make this a safe product. Liver toxicity isn't an issue as it isn't methylated. Shutdown isn't even going to be much of an issue either as it isn't really suppressive. Gyno? No-no! PCT is simple over-the-counter, and we make that, too. In all, I think that it's an excellent choice, and considering your past experiences, one that you will greatly enjoy!!

If you need help at all, just let us know!!! :cheers:
 
5lbs definitely a realistic goal. Just remember that you have to work at it. I just got back from the Olympia, and you'd be surprised how many people asked me "If I take this, do I still have to exercise?". Ummm... yeah.

Work hard, eat right, and 3-AD will help you out for sure.

Udo's choice is totally fine to take with your doses. It's a good idea to take with healthy fats, as opposed to something unhealthy like a double bacon cheeseburger (it's for a cop).
 
thesinner said:
Udo's choice is totally fine to take with your doses. It's a good idea to take with healthy fats, as opposed to something unhealthy like a double bacon cheeseburger (it's for a cop).
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I generally always have 2 (sometimes 3) healthy fat and protein meals out of my 6 a day, the others being low gi carb and protein, so do I simply take it on my fat meals or should I add extra in to my diet during the cycle - this would bump my cals a fair bit if I did it as extra in which case should I lower the calorie count of other meals tominimise fat gain?

I generally supplement with oil first and last meals of the day, the last I believe helps to slow the absorobtion of protein over night to help offset the hours of deprovation - though I do take a combo of whey and milk protein caseinate to supply different digesting speeds protein also - is there best meals to have 3-AD I see a lot of people say second meal of the day - not a problem but why?

I'm guessing eggs would be acceptable if eaten whole also?

My healthy fats generally consist of Udo's or Flaxseed Oil, Salmon and Mackerel, Eggs, Cashew and Walnuts and what ever else comes in from my intake of oats and lean meats.

I want to bulk on this - though with a clean diet to really rey and gain, what sort of amount of cals should be consumed over maintenance levels and should you alter training at all, does it suit heavy or higher reps etc?


Finally, 3 weeks on cycle but 4 on PCT if PCT only has to be mild OTC why not the general time on cycle = tme on PCT = tmie off principle that seems to be the general rule? In which case 3 weeks pct....

thanks every, and anyone who helps.
 
I would add extra fats with meals containing 3-AD doses. You will want to take 8-10 grams of fats per capsule of 3-AD being consumed.

When you wake up in the morning, you're body is coming off a catabolic state and wants substrates (food energy) ASAP. Taking a lot of fats will delay absorption of carbs and proteins, which will have an adverse effect on your metabolism and muscle growth. You don't want to take 3-AD at two times of the day when rapid absorption of nutrients are most crucial: First Meal and Post Workout.

Eggs are a great source of fats. They contain high quality proteins as well as lecithin, which can further assist in absorption via emulsification.

When taking a prohormone, your training capacity can increase a little bit. It's ok to perform more sets, so long as you don't overdo it. With regards to the number of reps you do, it's totally dependent moreso on the personal genetics of the person as well as the muscle being used. For instance, I personally have the best results training my biceps at high reps, but make all my tricep gains with really low reps.

If you want to keep your diet really clean, I would go with 250-500 Calories above maintenence per day.

The general rule of time on = time for PCT still holds pretty true. It's moreso for simplicities sake as well as an additional security measure that you take for 4 weeks. Since the HTPA recovers as an exponential function, this extra week will ensure that you are 100% up to speed, instead of perhaps 90%.
 
If you eat and train as you say, then 3AD will help add 5lbs easily, keeping it is up to how you continue to eat and train. 3AD is absolutely great for any kind of a bulk, clean bulk, or overall mass gaining program, and 3AD seems to work best in a high calorie situation. I did not like 3AD on limited calories at all, but feel that for what you want it will be perfect and you should be very happy.
 
The other concern/question I had which has not been answered is how prone you become to acne when taking - I accept that any ph can aggrevate this but being particuarly susceptable to acne I am drawn to the logs I have read on 3-AD which seem to suggest it is as limited as you can hope for - is this the case?

Also I am considering now having the 3-AD second meal with cashew nuts, I'll weigh out to provide 20g fat then my pre bed shake I will have the second dose with 1 1/2 tablespoons of Udo's - is this fine? I take it with 3-AD you need not concern yoursel in taking either side of working out like most products advise?
 
3-AD is pretty mild with regards to acne. I've taken some products that have made me flare up like a pepperoni pizza. With 3-AD, I think I got a single whitehead during my cycle.

Your setup is fine; however, I would try to leave some time between the second dose and bedtime. Reason being that it might disrupt your sleep.
 
thesinner said:
Your setup is fine; however, I would try to leave some time between the second dose and bedtime. Reason being that it might disrupt your sleep.
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That being the case does 3-AD need to be taken with a meal or just fat?

I mean I could take it with a spoon of Udo's and hour or so before bed and then have my protein mix before sleep as normal..?
 
thesinner said:
Doesn't need food, just fats. Perhaps take with a handful of nuts and you'll be good to go.
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Um, even nuts are food, bob-o. ;) :lol:
 
timdull2 said:
Um, even nuts are food, bob-o. ;) :lol:
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Food is essentially anything you eat. I wouldn't consider a handful of nuts as a meal.

I'm wary about recommending taking with some form of oil on an empty stomach because that has a tendency to double as a laxative. Need something that gets broken down to slow the passage through the GI system.
 
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