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Old 08-01-2008, 04:21 PM  
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MassFX Question


Is MassFX ok to use in lieu of HRT? I was diagnosed with hypogonadism (diet induced), and was on HRT for a while, been off for about 6 months and would like to stack MassFX with X-Factor from Molecular Nutrition. I'm already using the X-Factor, but my questions on MassFX is this:

Since my hypo was diet induced, is MassFX alright?
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:10 PM  
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On the warning label for Mass FX it says not to take if you have any endocrine system conditions so I would suggest you talk to your Doctor to make sure everything will be ok.
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:21 PM  
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I am suppose to go on HRT as well. im 18 with a 213 total test level. I heard that your on HRT for the rest of your life tho so Im very hesitant to go threw with it. im wondering if a test booster would benifit me?
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:55 AM  
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On the warning label for Mass FX it says not to take if you have any endocrine system conditions so I would suggest you talk to your Doctor to make sure everything will be ok.

Unfortunately my doctor isn't much help with it.

I assume (having read the label) that AX wrote that for those genetically pre-disposed to an endo disorder with they way you worded it on the label. My hope is maybe MassFX will help my body start producing more Test on it's own combined with a proper diet and get back to normal without using HRT again.
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Old 08-02-2008, 07:31 AM  
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Fidelitas626: Why dont you try some natural stuff before you get placed onto your HRT to see if your test levels can go up?

Theres few things you can do to help your testosterone production, as well supplements theres other things you can take to help your body with the material and things it needs to make more of your man juice, you can try supplementing with something like ZMA, the zinc in particular can help raise your testosterone levels....

Make sure your getting enough EFA's into your diet, try taking some strong fish oil capsules daily to help your hormone production, and also, try taking a good all around multi-vitamin, one that I can think of is Animal Pak by Universal, try half a serving a day if its too hardcore for you, but make sure your diets bang on first.

I think you should try these things before your HRT, hrt's only going to treat your low test levels, not cure it. You need to give your body the proper stuff it needs to help it get the message to increase your natural T levels and help it to upregulate instead of having exogenous test dumped into the blood which wont do much good for you.

On a side note, as for test boosters, theres one i've experimented with and got good results from, Tongkat Ali. get youirself a bottle, or maybe a couple even, and run it for 4months with a one month break or so, you'll need to find a 100:1 root extract, or a 50:1 extract, make sure its not loaded with just root powder as a filler, you want the proper strong stuff. It helps natural T production. I've used about 6-7 bottles myself so im speaking out of experience.

Wish you all the best
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:39 AM  
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Is MassFX ok to use in lieu of HRT? I was diagnosed with hypogonadism (diet induced), and was on HRT for a while, been off for about 6 months and would like to stack MassFX with X-Factor from Molecular Nutrition. I'm already using the X-Factor, but my questions on MassFX is this:

Since my hypo was diet induced, is MassFX alright?
WilteredFire has some good advice, particulary the efa's and zma. I've read that zinc deficiencies are common among male atheletes and men employed in heavy labor. Last I checked the reason is unknown, possibly it's lost thru sweat.

Besides that, I've tried a few test boosters including, MassFX and Leviathan, and the only one that produced any results in the gym was Leviathan. So i would recommend Leviathan. I haven't had my testosterone check since I've been on it, but my BP is good, and my LDL went down 21 pts since my last 2 blood tests. One thing, I can't take it after noon because it will give me sleep issues, but then that happens to me with any stim.

Here's a breakdown of the ingredients (I did not use the manufacture's info, mostly wikipedia):
0) Phenylethylamine (PEA) - increases attention and activity in animals
1) Coleus Forskohili - fat burning, increases thyroid
2) Hordenine - It stimulates the release of norepinephrine in higher animals
3) Diindolylmethane - anticarcinagin, blocks estrogen receptors, I3C is it's precursor.
4) Acacia Rigidula Extract - stim
5) Velvet Bean Extract - reported with anabolic and growth hormone stimulant properties. The anabolic effect of the seed is due to its ability to increase testosterone
6) Ficus Bengalensis anticholesterol
7) Yohimbine HCl fat burning and appetite suppression
8) 11-Hydroxy Yohimbine similar to above but longer half life (6-8 hrs), dose: 1 mg per 10 lbs
9) Phyllanthus Niruri - anti-hypertensive;diuretic ;reduces total cholesterol and triglycerides;hepatoprotective
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Thanks guys.

Wiltered, I was already on HRT at the tail end of last year, then stopped on my own to see if I could fix it naturally (by eating a proper diet). My levels are within "normal" range, but VERY low.

I will probably go ahead and use it. I tried ZMA and tribulus, neither helped much which re-enforces my belief that it is solely because of my stupid dieting.
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You can give Mass FX a try and see how things go. The way Mass FX works is that it helps release "free" testosterone in the body. Hyperdrol X2 is another natural test booster that helps the body increase it's testosterone production naturally. A lot of people stack Hypedrol X2 and Mass FX together and that cycle can be ran for up to 12 weeks with no PCT required.
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