First CHAOS Review!!!
- 06-29-2006, 10:02 PM
First CHAOS Review!!!
Yesterday I took it to try and see how the stimulant effect would go. I received the caffeinated version and wanted to test how subtle or quick the effects were. I purposely used 90mg of caffeine in Chaos because as you guys might know caffeine is a vasoconstrictor and can often times offset the effectivenss of the arginine. However, if lower dosages are used you can avoid this problem and receive a pleasant stimulating effect. I didnt want to give people a jittery feeling in the gym. Although it is nice to be all hyped up and cracked out in the gym sometimes, it leads to a lot of negative side effects such as headaches, dehydration, decreased pumps, and higher blood pressure.
I took a typical dose and threw it in some water. Downed it as quickly as possible so I could gauge the effects (non workout day). The effect was very interesting. The stimulated feeling begin to come very subtly but very quickly. I begin to feel a little more focused within 15 minutes of taking it. I had a friend take it as well and told him not to tell me when he begin feeling focused, energized, or similar. We both felt it pretty much the exact same time. It wasnt a jittery feeling but instead gave a better sense of well being and a pleasant focused feeling! The effect lasted well over an hour (the focus) and my body temperature def. begin to rise about an hour or so afterwards. I did notice that the walking around that I was doing at Home Depot and Wal-Mart did cause a much greater pump in my legs but figured this could be normal and didnt want to speculate, I was going to save that for a workout day.
Today I worked my weakest and laggiest muscle group, biceps. My biceps dont usually get all that pumped up since they are so far behind. Again I gave the same dosages to a friend of mine to gauge how he felt since he was considerably smaller than me and I didnt want it to be biased for me. Once again the stimulant feeling came on within 30 minutes. We noticed the greatest stimulated and focused feeling at roughly the one hour mark. We started off with standing preacher curls that had 3-4 second negatives a squeeze at the top and explosive concentric portions of the lift. After only 2 sets my arms felt like they were going to explode. Everyone that walked past me was staring, you could see a giant vein in my bicep and a bunch of small veins running through my shoulders. As I would walk to get water people did double takes and you could definitely feel people looking. I asked my friend if he saw the same thing and he laughed and said he was going to tell me that we I got back.
I continued the workout with the same effects. I literally looked like a beast. I am currently on test.tren.superdrol, and one might argue that the pump is coming from those compounds. Normally I would agree, however, the pump was MUCH more pronounced with Chaos than without it. I have worked out for 10 days with the same compounds and there is no way that all of a sudden today my pumps are twice what they were originally! I asked my friend how he felt and he gave me the thumbs up. He truthfully told me that he has never felt as dense as he did right then and kept complaining of how pumped up he was saying since he had never felt like that he didnt realize the feeling of a good pump and said he couldnt imagine being as pumped up as I was since he thought it would probably hurt!!
Strenght was another interesting factor. Strength felt much better as well. I havent been on CEE in well over two weeks and I must say I felt good even after the first dosage as far as strength is concerned. My endurance on lifts was definitely better and I was able to prevent failure on many sets. The creatine feeling I get is easily to see, if I havent been taking it for a long time I often will struggle at the midway point on some sets and a lot of times they will come back down. When I am steadily taking creatine (specifically CEE since there is no loading phase) I notice I can hit that sticking point and I will always be able to give an extra push and throw them up,that was the case today and NOT Monday, another welcomed effect!
All in all I absolutely love this stuff and am excited as hell to use this stuff before every workout. As I stated before the greatest effect was felt an hour after consuming so taking 45-60 mins before is optimal. If you are at home take it 45 mins before since it takes a little bit to get to the gym, etc. Empty stomach is also optimal. One thing I cant wait for is leg and chest day!! I am much mroe intense on those days and those muscles are actually decently sized unlike my biceps!
ENJOY!!! Let me know how it works for you guys!!!
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Last edited by LakeMountD; 07-15-2006 at 04:14 PM.PharmD
- 06-29-2006, 10:13 PM
Nice post brother. While one might suggest that your review might be biased, considering the content of this product I don't doubt that your review is genuine. Congrats to CROWLER for coming out with an affordable (cmon, it's 35 bucks for 6-10weeks!) and efficacious product.
One question I do have, as I am not overly familiar with all of the contents of the product, would taking this everyday add any effects?
Thanks LMD< that shower was long, did you share the water with your buddy?
- 06-29-2006, 10:22 PM
Originally Posted by canadian champ
Yeah I let my friend take it too so I could see how it worked on someone not only smaller but less biased and not on AAS, he explained to me exactly how I felt, which I was excited to hear!!!
Not only the price/dose though guys. But for added effect one can definitely take 1.5 servings of this stuff for added stimulant effects if they wanted to and still get a months worth.
You don't have to take it everyday and personally I am not a fan of taking things like this everyday but I guess it could depend on how much you are working out. If you are working out 5 days a week like me, every workout is fine. If you are working out 3 days a week you could take it a couple extra days if you'd like. There really aren't any studies telling of the efficacy of CEE taken on non workout days too as opposed to workout days only but I seriously doubt it would make too much of a difference.
The increased bloodflow could help aide in recovery from the d-arginine, etc. however and this could be a good focus supplement anytime you need a little.PharmD
06-29-2006, 10:29 PM
Nice review LMD, sounds like a winner! I would agree that there's no way the pumped feeling just so happned to double on your w/o day due to the cycle, it was the CHAOS man If you have the time, keep this thread open and let us know for a few more days if the results continue in the same manner. I love extra vacularity as well!
06-29-2006, 10:31 PM
Sounds like a candid review, thanks. Im so excited to get mine I feel like im on this guys stack The Load Blowers Stack
Also, I think it's cute that you and your boyfriend have boy/girl names (Tiffany/LakeMount).
Originally Posted by LakeMountD
06-29-2006, 10:33 PM
06-29-2006, 11:08 PM
Good review Lake I can't freaking wait for that stuff!!!!!!! I hope it affects me like it did you. So I can be all :bb2: like you HAHAHAH Good job Crowler and Lake!
06-30-2006, 12:50 AM
Haha..I do not think it was biased Lake, you seem to be very intent on delivering a quality product to the customers, seeing as only a short while ago you were in the same position. Very good post. Also a good post because it made me chuckle..lol..I challenge you to make a reference to the gym, pool, shower or any other place where you might be partially/fully exposed and not talk about how "people were staring at you"..
06-30-2006, 01:16 AM
This is why I respect LakeMountD so VERY VERY much. He developed this and knows the profit margin at this point is not a whole lot(will improve if sales continue and I can buy in larger quantities) but he wont just say SURE take it every day.Originally Posted by LakeMountD
He states what he KNOWS is true and wont BS people. I also give him HUGE props for saying he is also taking other supps so you get the FULL picture.
Hats off to you buddy for your integrity!
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06-30-2006, 02:06 AM
Ouch.Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
Note to CROWLER, put the "special sauce" in BP's and Mullet's Chaos. I am on tren and not too happy right now!
06-30-2006, 10:38 PM
Okay guys here is an update. Okay today I took 1.5 servings to see if I could have any different of an effect in the gym. Figured I would guinea pig it a little bit. Here is what I noticed:
Stimulant Feeling: I was more stimulated for sure. I got to the gym pretty hyped up and was definitely ready to do business. I love this stuff.
Focus: Definitely felt much more focused. I am assuming this is due to the added rhodiola rosea and possibly partly due to the extra 45mg of caffeine.
Strength: Strength was DEFINITELY there today, wow. Shattered last weeks OH tricep ext. with dumbbells. Last week did 85's for 9 and this week did 100's for 10 or 11 pretty easily with slow and controlled negatives. Again the anabolic steroids might be playing a part here but I know it has to do with the chaos as well, because of some of the other workouts I have done without it, I just feel different.
Pump: The pump was definitely still there. I didn't notice any difference of a pump as opposed to 1 serving but I did some oblique side raises today and WOW were those rediculously pumped up.
All in all 1.5 servings can be taken if you want that extra edge in the gym. A good time will be lonnnggg tiring days or if it is a leg day or something similar. Happy supplementing .
06-30-2006, 10:50 PM
Its like putting a HUGE pie right in front of the fat kids face and telling him NO you can't have any this is ALL for Lake.... Grrr I want mine so bad!!!!! But everything sounds great lake good job for being the little piggy..... Mine said it was shipped out today sooooo soon baby!
07-01-2006, 12:16 AM
So i know it was covered in the review, but just wanna make sure... but Lake.. you didnt see a problem with it while on cycle, cause next week im startin a smaller one then what your taking. But i've only really read people saving the CEE for PCT. Is there any issue with on cycle and chaos together??
07-01-2006, 12:19 AM
Nope, not a problem at all. I was one that used to think CEE should be kept to PCT but I'll tell ya I have tried it both ways and CEE still helps out even on cycle, more so for the endurance side of things, gives you that 1 or 2 extra reps and prevents failure.Originally Posted by wrkn4bigrmusles
07-01-2006, 12:22 AM
07-01-2006, 12:24 AM
07-01-2006, 01:50 PM
after your initial week of testing - how about taking a week or a few days off to see what the difference is?
07-01-2006, 01:59 PM
I would do this, however, for one I don't know if I want to workout without it haha and for two I really don't want it to interfere with my log of weights, since I truly feel that it is increasing strength/endurance, even if it is a small degree.Originally Posted by Pfunk47
07-01-2006, 02:04 PM
That makes sense - so.... so far your more vascular, reps increased (strength or endurance increase?), fuller pumps and amped up. For $35 bones that's one hell of a pre workout elixir
07-01-2006, 02:10 PM
It is harder to say "strength" increased due to the androgens involved, however, I do believe that is what I have seen. What I mean when I say endurance is rep endurance, not cardio endurance. I am getting that creatine feeling where if I am struggling on one of my final reps I will always be able to get that last rep, I don't feel like that when I am not on a creatine type product. The pumps are fun as hell though!Originally Posted by Pfunk47
I do want to mention that the effects were again felt at the 1 hour mark almost exactly during last administration.
07-02-2006, 01:12 AM
07-02-2006, 02:44 AM
I was pumped up quite a while afterwards, I was walking to my truck after the gym and could feel my damn hamstrings touching the opposite leg for sure. I would go home and still look vascular and I did noticed increased blood flow to the muscles for hours afterwards.. cough cough sex cough cough haha.Originally Posted by Stinger124
07-02-2006, 02:53 AM
Holy hell guys today was leg day and all I gotta say is I can't wait for you guys to try this stuff on leg day .
07-02-2006, 03:04 AM
Will it keep me from being on the verge of throwing up? If I get a supp that does that on leg day i'll go broke
I'm following this pretty close actually...I'm planning my up and coming cycle and this hasw caught my eye.
07-02-2006, 03:17 AM
Yeah man it definitely helps out, especially cause of the SD. 20mg of SD or greater starts pulling me down a little and I will yawn continuously. The test/tren is definitely pulling me back up but the chaos helps even more.Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
All i gotta say is thank God for Cycle Support because it is SOOOO much easier to throw it in my shakes twice daily than take all those pills like on my last cycle, you have no idea.
07-12-2006, 07:35 AM
07-13-2006, 09:26 AM
Sounds pretty interesting LMD. Nice review. Seems like chaos is just like amp except it has cee added to it. I am in the same stages as Jayhawk with planning out my cycle and this may be something I may add to list to take while on. I've used amp before and I noticed that if you take everyday, the effects(focused feeling) start to diminish(working out about 5 days). I know you posted that it may be taken everyday that you work out, but do you think chaos will be the same way as amp and lose it's effect(focused) if taken everyday?
07-13-2006, 10:49 AM
Thanks for the comments .Originally Posted by Achilles13
Actually this product was not meant to be like AMP at all. I guess that is a misnomer that people continue to press. It was actually created to be a strength/focus/stamina/NO2 (pump) product, not a stimulant. I have said in other threads that the caffeine negates the effects of nitric oxide since one is a vasoconstrictor and one is a vasodilator. 90mg of caffeine is negligable though and definitely helps improve focus without negating the pump or giving you jittery side effects.
We do have a Supercharged (Fiend) version of Chaos coming out soon for those of you who are stimulant freaks . It will contain a slow released caffeine and possibly a new creatine .
But don't tell CROWLER I said anything!
07-13-2006, 09:40 PM
I took my first dose this morning.
Deff. more focused. I didnt get any extra pump today though. It was a back day, I went at 5 am and did more weight then usual. I went up 20lbs on my deads. That is better then a pump to me, but I dont know if I was not lifting to full potential before, or this really did something for me.
07-15-2006, 02:54 AM
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