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    Haha i didnt think there was a debate. I thought we were just swapping info and opinions.

    But yeah the sleep on HGH Pro really makes the product worth taking on its own. The fact i was gaining strength and recomping simultaneously was truly what put this GH releaser in another league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Haha i didnt think there was a debate. I thought we were just swapping info and opinions.

    But yeah the sleep on HGH Pro really makes the product worth taking on its own. The fact i was gaining strength and recomping simultaneously was truly what put this GH releaser in another league.
    That is impressive.
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    Another great night sleep and ready to do shoulders a little wile later tonight.
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    Well i only got about 3 hrs sleep last night because the dog down stair barked all night. That means I'm back to dragging ass. Think I will go take a nap.
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    well last night was better. I got a full night sleep. Well time to get something to eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    well last night was better. I got a full night sleep. Well time to get something to eat.
    Looking good bro keep hitting it hard.
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    still sleeping great.
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    Yah my sleep has been very consistent since starting HGHPro... I'm very grateful as things are getting tough now in Hell Week!!
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    another great night sleep. Going to hit chest hard tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    another great night sleep. Going to hit chest hard tonight.
    Excellent bro. Good sleep=Good growth
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    I have really been pushing my muscles to the max for a month straight time to give them a break and let them recoup and grow. So for the next week or so I will be going lite and just get a good pump. So here is my chest workout.

    Wide Grip Bench press FG
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    Rev grip bench and wide grip with fat grips supper set
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    I have really been pushing my muscles to the max for a month straight time to give them a break and let them recoup and grow. So for the next week or so I will be going lite and just get a good pump. So here is my chest workout.

    Wide Grip Bench press FG
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    Rev grip bench and wide grip with fat grips supper set
    120-10/10/10
    120-10/10/7

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    Nice workout bro.
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    Great night sleep. $hity day at work. Back workout tonight will be going lite.
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    Great night sleep. No Workout to night. May go for a bike ride if it don't rain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Great night sleep. No Workout to night. May go for a bike ride if it don't rain.
    You state you have been really pushing your muscle to the max, this is great, but if you mind i would like to ask you a few questions...

    1) Has HGH Pro helped you push you yourself via either increase recovery, increased strength, increase motivation, or just an overall increase in drive?

    2) How have you been recovering?

    3) have there been increases in strength?

    4) How is body composition?

    5) what is your general impression thus far of HGH pro in comparison with other supplements you have taken in the past?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    You state you have been really pushing your muscle to the max, this is great, but if you mind i would like to ask you a few questions...

    1) Has HGH Pro helped you push you yourself via either increase recovery, increased strength, increase motivation, or just an overall increase in drive?

    2) How have you been recovering?

    3) have there been increases in strength?

    4) How is body composition?

    5) what is your general impression thus far of HGH pro in comparison with other supplements you have taken in the past?
    Ask away.
    increase recovery. The recovery has been great with this product. I don't realy see much Strength increase since I have been on it. That is why I'm going lite for a few. Hoping to restart the climb up in weights.
    Composition. I'm loosing fat. Which is great since I have slack a bit off my diet.
    When it comes to your last Q. Well it is hard to compare it to other supplement but I can compare it to other HGH products. I Have tried a few of them. So far I would have to rate this one as number 1! It is by far the best HGH. I'm still temped to go up on the dose. And I still would like to know how much L-Dope is in it. But they wont tell me. I think it may be a little low on it since I have tried L-Dope on its own and I know how I react to it. But Over all it is a great product and I would use it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Ask away.
    increase recovery. The recovery has been great with this product. I don't realy see much Strength increase since I have been on it. That is why I'm going lite for a few. Hoping to restart the climb up in weights.
    Composition. I'm loosing fat. Which is great since I have slack a bit off my diet.
    When it comes to your last Q. Well it is hard to compare it to other supplement but I can compare it to other HGH products. I Have tried a few of them. So far I would have to rate this one as number 1! It is by far the best HGH. I'm still temped to go up on the dose. And I still would like to know how much L-Dope is in it. But they wont tell me. I think it may be a little low on it since I have tried L-Dope on its own and I know how I react to it. But Over all it is a great product and I would use it again.

    Thats better responses then i expected! Great news and excellent observations for each question.

    About upping the dose...i did that once and that was an intense experience
    felt very groggy, sleep was super deep and dreams were extremely realistic. I woke up after 12 hours still feeling tired and groggy. My recovery improved but it left me hardly functional the following day. But you are a larger individual then myself so maybe someone around ur size has done it and can share their experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Thats better responses then i expected! Great news and excellent observations for each question.

    About upping the dose...i did that once and that was an intense experience
    felt very groggy, sleep was super deep and dreams were extremely realistic. I woke up after 12 hours still feeling tired and groggy. My recovery improved but it left me hardly functional the following day. But you are a larger individual then myself so maybe someone around ur size has done it and can share their experience.


    I have not felt any need to up the dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Rev T-cup (Lateral raise come up move to front come down go back up go to side and back down = 1 rep)
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    Great night sleep. hitting arms today. My fav workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Great night sleep. hitting arms today. My fav workout.
    Hit them hard bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    The info I have is in some of my book. You can also find allot about it in muscle development. It lower both sex hormones. but in men lowering test will make estrogen rise.

    Here is one web site that has some info.http://www.ironmagazine.com/review50.html

    "
    Possible side effects and precautions
    Green tea, even in large amounts, is associated with very few side effects. In mice, signs of toxicity were only observed when doses reached 2 g/kg daily of an 80% polyphenol abstract (this is about the equivalent of 8 cups per pound of body weight, per day 1200 cups of tea in a 150 lb. individual) [80].

    It is possible that large amounts of polyphenols could impair mineral absorption, making extra mineral supplements a wise course of action. Of primary importance is a significant inhibition of nonheme iron absorption, which is relevant if most of your iron comes from sources other than meat [81, 82]. It is possible that there is also mild inhibition of calcium, manganese, and zinc [83, 84], although there is a study that disputes the finding of impaired zinc absorption [84]. The only place where the phenomenon of significant mineral blockage by green tea has even been of worry is in Tunisia, where there is high tea intake and non-meat products are the primary source of dietay iron [81]. However, it may be prudent to take a multivitamin supplement that provides adequate amounts of these minerals at a separate time or a low-dose slow release iron supplement if one decides to consume large amounts of polyphenols.

    A concern that is commonly brought up about green tea is the idea that it decreases levels of androgens such as testosterone and DHT. One study reported that after administered to rats, EGCG "significantly reduced food intake; body weight; blood levels of testosterone, estradiol, leptin, insulin, insulin-like growth factor I, LH, glucose, cholesterol, and triglyceride" [22]. However, a different study with green tea catechins in rats found decreased body weight but increased thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH), LH, and testosterone levels [85]. A final study in mice with green tea indicated drastic increases in both testosterone and DHT from green tea treatment, but levels of both were synergistically inhibited when it was adminstered along with soy phytochemicals [86]. In vitro, EGCG inhibits type I 5AR [2, 87], which is partially responsible for the conversion of testosterone to DHT (for this reason, it has been proposed in the topical treatment of acne and hair loss [2]), while in rats, green tea is an aromatase inhibitor, which (in theory) would be responsible for an increase in tesotsterone levels [85].

    So, how does one make sense of this mess of contadictory data? It should first be noted that 5AR inhibition has only been shown in vitro [87], while it has not been observed in live animals in fact, drastic increases in DHT have been found - and it seems that other constituents of green tea counteract the 5AR inhibition [88]. The conclusions of the first study, which found drastic decreases in body weight, testosterone, and other hormones, are very misleading. A drastic reduction in levels of all of the substances mentioned can unfortunately be expected from weight loss in any situation (which is one of the reasons losing weight without losing muscle mass is so difficult). Indeed, when the authors of the same study restricted the food intake of the rats to cause a similar weight loss to that induced by EGCG, similar effects were seen, implying that the changes were not due to EGCG but due to drastic body weight loss [22]. The effect green tea has on levels of androgens and other hormones is complex and depends on various factors, but no detrimental effects have as of yet been seen in human populations. "


    Another site http://www.uchospitals.edu/news/2000/20000223-tea.html

    In addition to decreased food intake and body weight, rats injected with EGCG had lower levels of testosterone (70 percent less in the bloodstream) and insulin. "These results may not have been a direct result of EGCG since food restriction could also cause these hormones to drop," said Liao.

    another site http://www.ehow.com/how_5718743_inhi...tosterone.html
    I am about 98% sure all of the negative hormonal reaction is in direct result to a lack of food creating a lack of anabolism. Had they fed the rats intravenously counteracting the effects of lower appetite this would not have happened. Rats just aren't as smart as we are they don't know they need food if they aren't hungry. So they won't eat. These are similar results to a blood test on an anorexic person. Too many or too few controls in a study take the real world applications out of it all together.

    I know you upped it to a 10 out of 10, I just wanted to make that point.
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    Better late than never. Welcome to the party.
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    Great pump Gained 3/4 inch in pump.
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    Oops Correct that I didn't do 6sec. neg. on the 21s
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    great night sleep. I only have 2 night left of the first bottle.
    I will work for supplements!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    great night sleep. I only have 2 night left of the first bottle.
    I am working on how to clone these but have not figured it out yet.
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    another great night sleep. One night left until I open the second bottle.
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    great post! 2 questions though. first, when i get my bottle should i finish HGHpro before I start my AI Cycle Support and/or Hdrol cycle, or even wait and use HGHpro during PCT? second, with a lot of the hype on great sleep and recovery, it doesn't totally knock you out does it? my job requires that i answer quite a few phone calls and possibly have to get up during the middle of the night since i'm the manager. i just don't want it to interfere with my work. but being the nature of my biz, my quality of sleep has suffered since last September when i started this job. will HGHpro help in this area or possibly cause me to miss work-related phone calls? thanks in advance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BANGkris View Post
    great post! 2 questions though. first, when i get my bottle should i finish HGHpro before I start my AI Cycle Support and/or Hdrol cycle, or even wait and use HGHpro during PCT? second, with a lot of the hype on great sleep and recovery, it doesn't totally knock you out does it? my job requires that i answer quite a few phone calls and possibly have to get up during the middle of the night since i'm the manager. i just don't want it to interfere with my work. but being the nature of my biz, my quality of sleep has suffered since last September when i started this job. will HGHpro help in this area or possibly cause me to miss work-related phone calls? thanks in advance!
    I am also currently taking HGHpro, and I have been able to wake when needed. The sleep is deeper, but not necessarily un-interruptible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BANGkris View Post
    great post! 2 questions though. first, when i get my bottle should i finish HGHpro before I start my AI Cycle Support and/or Hdrol cycle, or even wait and use HGHpro during PCT? second, with a lot of the hype on great sleep and recovery, it doesn't totally knock you out does it? my job requires that i answer quite a few phone calls and possibly have to get up during the middle of the night since i'm the manager. i just don't want it to interfere with my work. but being the nature of my biz, my quality of sleep has suffered since last September when i started this job. will HGHpro help in this area or possibly cause me to miss work-related phone calls? thanks in advance!
    It does not knock me out. I sleep about the same amount of time but a heck of a lot deeper sleep. I do not see a problem taking it now or in pct it is just a matter of choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    It does not knock me out. I sleep about the same amount of time but a heck of a lot deeper sleep. I do not see a problem taking it now or in pct it is just a matter of choice.
    thanks Pem. I'm thinking it would be nice to be on HGHpro during the preload and first 3 weeks that it takes the Hdrol to kick in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BANGkris View Post
    thanks Pem. I'm thinking it would be nice to be on HGHpro during the preload and first 3 weeks that it takes the Hdrol to kick in.
    That sounds like a good plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BANGkris View Post
    thanks Pem. I'm thinking it would be nice to be on HGHpro during the preload and first 3 weeks that it takes the Hdrol to kick in.
    I would take it with the cycle. HGH with any type of test or Roid will lower myostatin which will help in muscle growth.
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    Had a great night sleep. The first bottle is done time to open the second one tonight.
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