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    How many hours inbetween should we take this? According to Layne Norton 4 hours is the peak for 4 grams of leucine to elict MPS. Any thoughts. I want to do this right.



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    Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    How many hours inbetween should we take this? According to Layne Norton 4 hours is the peak for 4 grams of leucine to elict MPS. Any thoughts. I want to do this right.
    decent question,

    havent seen the literature regaurding this,

    however, pre during and post have always done well for me

    i like to flavor my gallon jug with 5 scoops of recoverpro and drinking it throughout the day, i honestly feel like i looked my best when dosing it that way.

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    Well acccording to the study 4 grams elicts MHP but more did not. He said 4g maximizes the response. there is no use for more, if anything exercise will sensitize you to the anabolic response and you might require less actually during workouts. I need to make sure I don't waste money ether.

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    MPS is what we are after right? To activate mTOR which signals MPS the graph shows 4 grams. He says in humans MPS lasts 4,5 hours.

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    Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    Well acccording to the study 4 grams elicts MHP but more did not. He said 4g maximizes the response. there is no use for more, if anything exercise will sensitize you to the anabolic response and you might require less actually during workouts. I need to make sure I don't waste money ether.
    definetly understood there,

    but remember dosing here this way can cut corners with whole food protein because of the bioavailability,

    exercise will enhance the uptake of it.

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    So what do you suggest? I am thinking 4x5 meals 20 grams of leucine for the day and maybe something at night.

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    yea pre, during and post,

    and after dinner/before bed

    something like that may go well
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    havent read the study yet,

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    Look at the powerpoint very awesome study he did. Once you read it let me know your thoughts.

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    Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    Look at the powerpoint very awesome study he did. Once you read it let me know your thoughts.
    i dont have powerpoint. i tried opening it,

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    Do you have adobe acrobate reader?

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    Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    Do you have adobe acrobate reader?
    yep

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    Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    yep
    reps for cliffs.

    lol

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    You can view it online if you don't have power point.

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    http://www.synergy-media.eu/optimal2003.pdf

    Made a Pdf for you to download. Sorry for any minor formatting problems. Seems I'm missing a font.

    Enjoy!

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    Awesome. synergyire did you read the study? I want to know peoples thoughts on this. I see a lot of people taking 50 grams of bcaa's threw out the day even personal friends but if all I need is 4 grams every 4 hours than whos more cost effective?

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    Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    Awesome. synergyire did you read the study? I want to know peoples thoughts on this. I see a lot of people taking 50 grams of bcaa's threw out the day even personal friends but if all I need is 4 grams every 4 hours than whos more cost effective?
    i just add them to my water and drink them throughout the day.

    i shoot for a gallon over the 8 hours at work.

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    James, you are better at some things in life than myself, currently your business,and money ability exceeds mine. Bodybuilding is some thing I am better at than yourself and I write this to help you Just like you help me with business.

    what are your goals? you once said you want to compete right? or do you just want to look like a lean and buff guy? because you have already achieved that and you know how that works

    if your goal is to become massive the below applies

    In your case you are a special case, you do not eat any meats because of your religion. Moreover, eating meats packs on mass faster on you than any supplement. Ever heard the saying food is the ultimate anabolic? well it is true. I think as long as you are getting in adequate protein in though out the day you are fine. In short you need to eat meat to grow

    I look at bcaa's and luecine as supplements and think dietary habits need to be in place first before resorting to supplements. you can ask any body builder and they will tell you the same. yes supplements have their place and are good, stack them on top of an already sound diet and you'll see much faster and better results.Further, I am not here to convince you to start eating meats I am just pointing out doing what works, if you are not doing what works you are not getting full benefits.

    All the logic in the world can not convince you because you have been programmed from child hood to believe eating meats is a sin, we have all been taught things, as we grow up it is our responsibly to program in what beliefs are useful for us and what beliefs are ready to be put aside. That is our choice or we can hang onto beliefs that are ingrained in the subconscious. That is a whole other subject on the mind, subconscious mind and how to program in what you want into your subconscious mind.

    I totally believe you can achieve great things and think it is possible for you to do great things with your body with out using meats(you already have done mazing things with your body since you started),however, if you want much much better results do what works man.

    Since you are not currently not eating meats Recover pro would work fine with your meals. That is my opinion from my almost eight years of body building and competing in the NGA organization as an amateur and it meant to be of help.

    I want every one to respect this guys choice for not eating meats, his decision and only he can make the change. No harassing him like some guys have done in the past okay.

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    Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    James, you are better at some things are life than myself, currently your business,and money ability exceeds mine. Bodybuilding is some thing I am better at than yourself and I write this to help you Just like you help me with business.

    what are your goals? you once said you want to compete right? or do you just want to look like a lean and buff guy? because you have already achieved that and you know how that works

    if your goal is to become massive the below applies

    In your case you are a special case, you do not eat any meats because of your religion. Moreover, eating meats packs on mass faster on you than any supplement. Ever heard the saying food is the ultimate anabolic? well it is true. I think as long as you are getting in adequate protein in though out the day you are fine. In short you need to eat meat to grow

    I look at bcaa's and luecine as supplements and think dietary habits need to be in place first before resorting to supplements. you can ask any body builder and they will tell you the same. yes supplements have their place and are good, stack them on top of an already sound diet and you'll see much faster and better results.Further, I am not here to convince you to start eating meats I am just pointing out doing what works, if you are not doing what works you are not getting full benefits.

    All the logic in the world can not convince you because you have been programmed from child hood to believe eating meats is a sin, we have all been taught things, as we grow up it is our responsibly to program in what beliefs are useful for us and what beliefs are ready to be put aside. That is our choice or we can hang onto beliefs that are ingrained in the subconscious. That is a whole other subject on the mind, subconscious mind and how to program in what you want into your subconscious mind.

    I totally believe you can achieve great things and think it is possible for you to do great things with your body with out using meats(you already have done mazing things with your body since you started),however, if you want much much better results do what works man.

    Since you are not currently not eating meats Recover pro would work fine with your meals. That is my opinion from my almost eight years of body building and competing in the NGA organization as an amateur and it meant to be of help.

    I want every one to respect this guys choice for not eating meats, his decision and only he can make the change. No harassing him like some guys have done in the past okay.
    You definitely sounds like the smeton_yea I used to know.

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    sorry broski been MIA,

    Getting ready for the arnold and working, im reading it now

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