Transdermal Transformation - AgeForce, NTBM and Taurus

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  1. Yeah my thing milas, is that i have crohnes. Peptides i love, but they give me such bad anxiety and i am not rich enough for hgh. Sooooooo If this is real it could be tooo good too be true. Hgh products, supplements and etc. help me out extremely and could even heal. So hope this stuff really is what they say, but like i said i highly doubt it.


  2. Day 24: 9/7/11 Back & Biceps

    Supplements
    1 AgeForce Testo100 Patch
    1 AgeForce PowerPatch

    5 pumps RS transaderm (postworkout)
    2 pump AgeForce Muscle Recovery Gel (post workout)
    20 pumps Taurus 7-KE (10 AM and 10 PM)
    4 scoops AI RecoverPro (2 intra, 2 post)
    1 scoop APS Mesomorph

    WG Pull Ups
    bw x 10
    +10 x 10
    +25 x 10
    +45 x 7
    +45 x 6

    NG Pull Ups
    +45 x 7 (5 sets)

    Smith Machine Rows
    110 x 10
    200 x 10
    250 x 10
    270 x 10
    290 x 8

    Shrugs (starting with a Deadlift)
    380 x 10
    470 x 10
    470 x 10
    470 x 10
    490 x 10

    Low Pulley Cable Row (FST-7)
    220 x 8 (7 sets, 30 second rest)

    One Arm Cable Curl
    25 x 10 (8 sets)

    Hammer bar Curl
    75 x 10
    85 x 8 (4 sets)

    Incline DB Curl
    35 x 10 (5 sets)


    Great back workout, between the pullups, rows and shrugs (with DLs) I got a great workout in for my back. It feels nice and tight, good contractions and working with heavier weights. Bicep workout was just okay though, I really think I need to find some new high-intensity types of lifts for biceps. I work them hard and to failure, but those things have a hard time getting sore and growing!

    PowerPatch was used last night, I slept REALLY deep. I woke twice, but no problem falling back asleep and I was feeling great both times I woke and eventually when I got up for good. Vivid dreams too, not the most vivid ever, but much more so than baseline.

    Testo100 seems to give me a little extra "kick" with my Transaderm, or at least this morning it had that kind of feeling. Pairing the 2 helps my aggression in the gym, or today it did, depending possibly on other factors.

    Transaderm continues to ROCK! I'm enjoying the feeling of being on it very much.

    7-KE seems to be doing fine, nothing too noticeable. Midsection was looking good in the mirror post workout, so I'm staying pretty lean during all of this.
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  3. Nothing beats good old fashioned obar curls, nice and heavy and if you have cheat it up fight the negatives and you'll grow...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  4. Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    Yeah my thing milas, is that i have crohnes. Peptides i love, but they give me such bad anxiety and i am not rich enough for hgh. Sooooooo If this is real it could be tooo good too be true. Hgh products, supplements and etc. help me out extremely and could even heal. So hope this stuff really is what they say, but like i said i highly doubt it.
    While I don't think the patches are as good as injectable hGH, I think they are better than OTC GH Boosters. I'm still not decided on peptides until I've run the patches for a few months. Like I keep saying, the patches do "something" I just cannot credibly say exactly what.

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Nothing beats good old fashioned obar curls, nice and heavy and if you have cheat it up fight the negatives and you'll grow...
    I should do those more, you're right. Even Arnold did those as the core move for his beastly biceps!
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  5. Glad I saw this dude. I'm in. Will catch up later.
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  6. YEs, I def agree with Milas on that the patches are doing something. I have never used real GH, so I cannot compare the two. I have used OTC HGH supps boosters before and this product seems to work better for me IMO. The only hgh supp that ever did anything for me before this was AI HGHup. That was/is a good hgh booster..SJ

  7. Hey Milas, everything ok, I have not heard from you in a while nor have you updated the threads. I hope everything is ok with you..SJ

  8. Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Hey Milas, everything ok, I have not heard from you in a while nor have you updated the threads. I hope everything is ok with you..SJ
    Didn't he say he was going on vacation ?
    ACSM-CPT

  9. Well its been a while...... For trying to support these here patches.... Still not convinced lol

  10. Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Hey Milas, everything ok, I have not heard from you in a while nor have you updated the threads. I hope everything is ok with you..SJ
    Yeah, sorry, got tied up with work, life, vacation, etc! updating a log just fell off the priority list when my family came calling!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelwolf View Post
    Didn't he say he was going on vacation ?
    Yep, 7 days on Grand Cayman. Reeeeeeally nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    Well its been a while...... For trying to support these here patches.... Still not convinced lol
    No problem, if you're not convinced then don't try them! If you'd like to try them, you can do it risk free for 30 days with a money back guarantee. You may not have significant gains as a result, but you'd at least be able to tell if they were doing "something" or not. Totally up to you.
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  11. Shiiiit in for the log, way late but just caught it. Weve actually got quite similar builds haha

    PS. I vacationed out at grand cayman islands this past summer as well, kissed a stingray so apparently i have 7 years good luck they tell me.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by cardiobro View Post
    Shiiiit in for the log, way late but just caught it. Weve actually got quite similar builds haha

    PS. I vacationed out at grand cayman islands this past summer as well, kissed a stingray so apparently i have 7 years good luck they tell me.
    They told me I get 7 years of good luck only if I buy a picture of me kissing a stingray for $50...

    But yeah, awesome place, Turtle Farm was awesome too. I ate turtle, barracuda, and kangaroo while there (tons of fish every day actually). NOM NOM NOM!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    They told me I get 7 years of good luck only if I buy a picture of me kissing a stingray for $50...

    But yeah, awesome place, Turtle Farm was awesome too. I ate turtle, barracuda, and kangaroo while there (tons of fish every day actually). NOM NOM NOM!
    well i hope it doesnt effect your gains not having the good luck and all.... hahaha (ps i made sure i kissed a girl stingray so no homo)

  14. Wow I overlooked this!

    In bro.

    I've been doing a few different things lately to get my bi's sore, they definitely are a hard to break down body part. If I do them on back day it's so much easier, I focus on the squeeze at the top of my pullups movement, at the top of my rowing movements, etc. Also have been doing seated bar curls, allows for me to use heavier weight while keeping more tension on them. Then if I haven't had enough yet I run the rack with hammer curls, dropping down in increments of 5 pounds, for two sets, ending up using 6 different weights.

    How are you looking the recovery gel?
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  15. Thanks for the advice on the arms. How do you do seated barbell curls? Don't your legs get in the way?

    Recovery gel is awesome, great for any soreness or for generally feeling better in my joints and muscles. My wife who doesn't believe in supplements uses it frequently, that says something there!
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  16. Okay, so I obviously missed a bunch of updates so I'll restart from here. I'm going on this until the end of October, so just the remainder of this month.

    I started Formastanzol yesterday, so I'm hoping to lean out some. I'll also be adding in some sort of NTBM fat burner (I have 3 to choose from). Actually, I may stack the 3!

    Now the hard part will be restricting calories, I HATE doing that!
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Milas
    Thanks for the advice on the arms. How do you do seated barbell curls? Don't your legs get in the way?

    Recovery gel is awesome, great for any soreness or for generally feeling better in my joints and muscles. My wife who doesn't believe in supplements uses it frequently, that says something there!
    My legs do get in the way but that's the point for the seated curls, doesn't allow for a full extension, allows for good form, and helps you bust out a few rest/pause reps at the end.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Okay, so I obviously missed a bunch of updates so I'll restart from here. I'm going on this until the end of October, so just the remainder of this month.

    I started Formastanzol yesterday, so I'm hoping to lean out some. I'll also be adding in some sort of NTBM fat burner (I have 3 to choose from). Actually, I may stack the 3!

    Now the hard part will be restricting calories, I HATE doing that!
    Have you tried the n2burn yet? It helped me with the hunger suppressing quite a bit

  19. Quote Originally Posted by cardiobro View Post
    Have you tried the n2burn yet? It helped me with the hunger suppressing quite a bit
    I did, I actually went through a whole bottle already! I wasn't focused on fat loss though, but it helped me stay relatively lean despite being too relaxed on my diet. I only used it 3 caps first thing in the morning (fasted until 12PM).

    I liked it well enough that I got N2Burn, N2Stim and N2Flame! I just like the energy and good feelings from fat burners!
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    I did, I actually went through a whole bottle already! I wasn't focused on fat loss though, but it helped me stay relatively lean despite being too relaxed on my diet. I only used it 3 caps first thing in the morning (fasted until 12PM).

    I liked it well enough that I got N2Burn, N2Stim and N2Flame! I just like the energy and good feelings from fat burners!
    I couldnt agree more.

    I hear lots of people talking about "rub off" With transdermal products. I notice on the bottle of transaderm it states to not shower for 6 hours after applying. In your opinion how serious is rub off, and after 6 hours is the product fully absorbed? I hadnt put much thought into it but i dont want my girlfriend to start growing a beard...

  21. TD transfer to others happens, so it's best to play it safe with kids especially. Women have some similar hormones, but again, best to avoid contact if possible.

    The majority of active ingredient should penetrate the skin relatively quickly, and get deposited by the fatty tissue under the skin for gradual release/absorption. However, there's always going to be some active that doesn't penetrate, a lot depends on the carrier and how exfoliated/permeable your skin is. The general rule of thumb is the faster it dries/absorbs, the better it is.

    I don't know about timing, but I believe what you get in within the first ~1 hr is most of what you're going to get. The rest will rub off on clothing or whatever else you come in contact with. Those active ingredients don't go inactive just because they didn't penetrate. They'll "live" on you until washed/rubbed off on something else. If they rub off on another person, there's a chance that the small portion that was left on you will penetrate their skin.

    Regardless, it's not going to be that much that you need to worry about it too much, I just would exercise more caution with young children and after the first hour of application.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    TD transfer to others happens, so it's best to play it safe with kids especially. Women have some similar hormones, but again, best to avoid contact if possible.

    The majority of active ingredient should penetrate the skin relatively quickly, and get deposited by the fatty tissue under the skin for gradual release/absorption. However, there's always going to be some active that doesn't penetrate, a lot depends on the carrier and how exfoliated/permeable your skin is. The general rule of thumb is the faster it dries/absorbs, the better it is.

    I don't know about timing, but I believe what you get in within the first ~1 hr is most of what you're going to get. The rest will rub off on clothing or whatever else you come in contact with. Those active ingredients don't go inactive just because they didn't penetrate. They'll "live" on you until washed/rubbed off on something else. If they rub off on another person, there's a chance that the small portion that was left on you will penetrate their skin.

    Regardless, it's not going to be that much that you need to worry about it too much, I just would exercise more caution with young children and after the first hour of application.
    Thanks that deserves some rep points. I guess applying to the c0ck and balls isnt such a great idea then if one plans on doing the dirty

  23. Depends on if one goes balls deep.
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  24. She always did say she wanted to lose some weight...

  25. Sticking and rubbing your way to a new and better you.
    That should have been the thread title...
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Sticking and rubbing your way to a new and better you.
    That should have been the thread title...
    I may have had to move that to another section!
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  27. Hey Milas, how are things going. Which supps are you using now. I have been using the Creatine/beta patch for over a week now..SJ

    Anything new on the horizon..SJ

  28. with transdermals that include yohimbine hcl do you have to apply it before cardio to be effective? also do carbs negate the effects of transdermal yohimbine like how it does with oral?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Lc3933 View Post
    with transdermals that include yohimbine hcl do you have to apply it before cardio to be effective? also do carbs negate the effects of transdermal yohimbine like how it does with oral?
    No since our patch is 8 hour time release I do it first thing in the morning.
    Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.

  30. have had wrist problems at times.my suggestion is to put patch on wrist and use a few wraps of stretch athletic tape.I have worked through a few episodes without having to cut back and eventually the soreness went away.
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