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  1.  08-16-2011  08:27 AM
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    Pre & Post Workout Patch Write-Up


    AgeForce® HGH Supplements from our USA-FDA certified labs


    AgeForce® Pre & Post Workout Patch
    Nitric Oxide Booster And Post Workout Recovery

    Our New Exclusive 2-Stage Time-Release Formula Takes Nitric Oxide
    Boosters And Post-Workout Recovery To A New Level!
    • Stage l – Rapid release of the Nitric Oxide boosting formula directly into the bloodstream, insures a rapid and sustained synthesis of Nitric Oxide (NO) level ramp-up before and during your workout! This process begins as soon as the patch is applied.

    • Stage 2 – The patch features a delayed time-release of the second formula to speed post-workout recovery between workouts.

    Introducing the first combined Pre & Post workout supplement in a 2-stage transdermal time-release patch! There are dozens of great “oral” pre-workout Nitric Oxide boosters and post-workout recovery supplements on the market. But until now, nobody has combined these two important supplements, and no company offers them in a time-release transdermal patch!

    Two specialized formulas delivered when you need them with 2 separate time-release delivery.
    Unlike “oral” Nitric Oxide supplements, our powerful Nitric Oxide boosting formula. (Stage 1) begins direct delivery to your bloodstream as soon as you apply the patch, with continuous ongoing formula release for about 4-hours. Other “oral” Nitric Oxide supplements (Even the best formulas) take several hours before they even start to work, because they must first be processed in the stomach, and then transit the small intestines where the remaining formula is absorbed into the bloodstream. (Stage 2) After the timed-release of the Nitric Oxide boosting formula finishes, our second stage delayed time-release kicks in. This is the advanced Post-Workout Recovery formula. This delayed time-release starts about 4-hours after the patch was first applied and it also continues for about 4-hours.
    Two Powerful New Formulas Delivered When You Need Them!

    The Pre-Workout Nitric Oxide boosting formula delivers a massive amount of L-Arginine, along with Citrulline, Folic Acid (B9) and other specialized amplifiers, directly into your bloodstream, for about 4-hours! This first stage insures that the synthesis of Nitric Oxide (NO) starts immediately, and that a safe, powerful Nitric Oxide level ramp-up continues during your workout! Pre-Workout Nitric Oxide Boosting formula

    The Post Workout Recovery formula is delivered via a delayed time-release function built into the patch.
    The post-workout formula contains L-Lysine, Coenzyme Q10, and other specialized amplifiers. The patch’s second stage starts transdermal delivery about 4-hours after the patch is first applied. Post-Workout Recovery formula

    Trainers & Athletes know that increasing Nitric Oxide levels before and during workouts will help you to elevate strength, stamina, bodybuilding, endurance, focus, and intensity!


    Nitric Oxide is one of the most important molecules produced by your blood vessels for cardiovascular health.

    Young Or Older, Nitric Oxide Is The Athlete’s Secret Weapon
    - Nitric oxide increases blood flow while lowering your blood pressure. This increase of blood volume to muscle tissues increases the delivery of nutrients to your muscles while you workout. A good Nitric Oxide supplement, one that elevates natural Nitric Oxide levels, can increase strength, energy, bodybuilding, endurance, and stamina.

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    - As you age, your body slowly loses its ability to produce adequate Nitric Oxide. But you can safely boost Nitric Oxide levels with our new 2-stage time-release patch and enjoy explosive workout performance! If you're under 40 you can take your workouts to the next level by elevating your Nitric Oxide levels. Increased blood flow without an additional demand on your cardiovascular system is the key to more productive workouts and exercise.

    A Formula Like No Others!
    Our Research & Development team has put together two natural formulas. The first formula elevates Nitric Oxide levels quickly and safely, and then the second formula supports faster post-workout recovery. Our Pre & Post Workout transdermal patch formula is delivered directly into your bloodstream, so it retains 100% of its strength and starts to work seconds after you apply the patch, as opposed to oral Nitric Oxide booster supplements that can take several hours to enter the bloodstream as they must first navigate the slow digestive process. Please take a moment to read about the various ingredients in this great new advanced formula!

    About Nitric Oxide
    Nitric Oxide is a gaseous signaling molecule that is biosynthesized from L-Arginine. In 1998 three American scientists won the Nobel Prize for discovering the role Nitric Oxide plays in the cardiovascular system.

    Nitric oxide booster supplements increase athletic performance by decreasing the cardiac workload. By elevating the levels of Nitric Oxide help to dilate (expand) the veins, and lower arterial pressure and left ventricular filling pressure. This does not decrease the volume of blood the heart pumps, but rather it decreases the force the heart muscle must exert to pump the same volume of blood. These properties of Nitric Oxide make it one of themost effective supplements, in use today, to increase and improve athletic performance.

    Health & Fitness Benefits Of Nitric Oxide
    •Enhances nutrient and oxygen delivery to muscle
    •Relaxes and enlarges blood vessels which reduces demand on heart muscle
    •Regulates blood pressure
    •Boosts HGH production
    •Supports lean muscle mass increase
    •Supports increased bone density
    •Supports sexual performance
    •Increases strength and endurance
    •Reduces fatigue
    •Supports overall cardiovascular health
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  2.  08-16-2011  04:24 PM
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    I am going to be purchasing these real soon. I want to start using them right away, just for my cardio and light toning sessions for a little extra boost. I will also report on them. Nice write-up..SJ

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    Thanks, I'm getting the pre/post patches soon too, they seem really unique! I bet the pumps will be great!
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    Milas, have you been running the pre/post workout patches and if so, how do you compare them to a preworkout drink like Jack3d etc..

    I am interested in getting these, just waiting for some funds to roll in. Also, I have a horrible stomach and most preworkouots do not agree with me so if these work they will def become a yearlong staple for me..SJ

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    Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Milas, have you been running the pre/post workout patches and if so, how do you compare them to a preworkout drink like Jack3d etc..

    I am interested in getting these, just waiting for some funds to roll in. Also, I have a horrible stomach and most preworkouots do not agree with me so if these work they will def become a yearlong staple for me..SJ
    I've only used it once so far, and I didn't have it on early enough (should put it on ~2hrs before workout, I put it on 30 minutes before). That being said it's not a stimulant formula, so it's not going to give you lots of energy. It's a pump formula, so good for increasing nitric oxide.

    I'm going to try it out again with more appropriate timing, and see how it works out. I also put it on my shoulder, and it sweated off during the workout, so I had to move it to my forearm. My shoulders get really sweaty, and I was working chest, so my shoulders moved too much too. Morale of the story put the patches in a place that won't get super sweaty (I sweat a lot, but forearms stick fine for me.
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    Gotcha..Yah, maybe they can make a stimulant type preworkout product as well, thats an idea. Thanks for the response..SJ

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    Definitely looking forward to giving these a go. What ill probly do is apply it and put some tape around it, ive been doing that with the Power Patch as a type of securing device just to make sure it doesnt come off while i sleep. (I move around a lot )
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    I move around a lot too with the patches on, asleep and awake (arms under pillows, etc.), and no problem. I've been able to shower with the patches on, and no problem. The problem is when you put it over a place that has a lot of sweat glands and the moisture goes straight to the adhesive instead of on top of the patch. The patch will form a pretty good barrier for external moisture, but if it is coming from below into the adhesive, it won't last.
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    I have used the patches a few times now and I believe they enhanced my stamina. Is it possible for them to have such an immediate effect? Also, what about those who say arginine is bunk, as discussed here and elsewhere?
    Arginine = TOTAL SCAM?

    Let me add that I remain an AgeForce fan as someone who has been using the testo100, powerpatch, and melatonin patches for a couple months and gained strength relatively fast, and 3-5 pounds despite not eating a great deal more.

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    I did a bit more research and found some support for arginine, particularly when used in conjunction with compounds like lysine, which is found in the pre & post workout patches.

    http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic...ine-and-sleep/

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    Originally Posted by Cogrick2 View Post
    I have used the patches a few times now and I believe they enhanced my stamina. Is it possible for them to have such an immediate effect? Also, what about those who say arginine is bunk, as discussed here and elsewhere?
    Arginine = TOTAL SCAM?

    Let me add that I remain an AgeForce fan as someone who has been using the testo100, powerpatch, and melatonin patches for a couple months and gained strength relatively fast, and 3-5 pounds despite not eating a great deal more.
    Originally Posted by Cogrick2 View Post
    I did a bit more research and found some support for arginine, particularly when used in conjunction with compounds like lysine, which is found in the pre & post workout patches.

    http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic...ine-and-sleep/
    Oral arginine is pretty ineffective because of low bioavailability orally. Transdermal and injected arginine however have been demonstrated to have benefits. In this case, the delivery mechanism makes all the difference. Transdermal delivery increases the effectiveness significantly.
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    Ive ordered the patch and will be logging its effects here. for the record i respond extremely well to nitric oxide supplements that are properly formulated. I will be comparing this to nitox softgel by scifit, and therefore my standards are extremely high. I say this because a patch is a very small thing, and i dont think anywhere near the 6g daily nitrox gives will be provided. obviously, the arguement will be that the patch is better absorbed and thus less is needed; i counter this with an expressed understanding that any liposomal delivery basically guarantees 98% absorption. I pledge that my reviews will be as detailed as the product allows and am excited for this relatively free opportunity.

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    Originally Posted by thescience
    Ive ordered the patch and will be logging its effects here. for the record i respond extremely well to nitric oxide supplements that are properly formulated. I will be comparing this to nitox softgel by scifit, and therefore my standards are extremely high. I say this because a patch is a very small thing, and i dont think anywhere near the 6g daily nitrox gives will be provided. obviously, the arguement will be that the patch is better absorbed and thus less is needed; i counter this with an expressed understanding that any liposomal delivery basically guarantees 98% absorption. I pledge that my reviews will be as detailed as the product allows and am excited for this relatively free opportunity.
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    Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    [...] I will be comparing this to nitox softgel by scifit, and therefore my standards are extremely high. I say this because a patch is a very small thing, and i dont think anywhere near the 6g daily nitrox gives[...]
    I remember seeing a study in which 6 grams of an arginine compound caused gastric distress in almost all of the participants. Do you handle it well?

    Also, what do you notice from Nitrox?

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    That's the beauty of transdermal. No gastric issues. Straight to bloodstream.
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    Originally Posted by Cogrick2 View Post
    I remember seeing a study in which 6 grams of an arginine compound caused gastric distress in almost all of the participants. Do you handle it well?

    Also, what do you notice from Nitrox?


    well, its 3grams taken twice a day to total 6g. that stduy probably refers to regular arginine, but in the body building world the starting dose used by ed bird's no2 was 8g a day and alot of people are fine with that protocall. there are differences here though with nitrox softgel and even bird's "no2 black"; the main one is that it is sustained-release, so u arent overdosing with say a 4g dose at once; rather, the body absorbs alittle at a time. additionally, no2 black uses alpha-keta glutarate form of arginine which is better absorbed, hence less to sit around in the intestines to cause problems. I like nitrox softgel over no2 black because of the sustained-release lyposomal delivery system. lyposomal is actually the best way to take oral supplements that i know about; for example, look into this stuff called lypospheric-C; its a vitamin c supplement, but it causes zeero gastrointestinal problems due to the fact that the vit c never comes into contact with the GI tract; the vitamin c is actully contained in a phospholipid, so it is absorbed nearly 100%, and the contents are released into the bloodstream. nitrox uses the same liposomal on their product; actually, its possible to make your own lyposomal supplements from home, though they would only keep for a few days typically. i am ok with tolerating arginine, though i know others who have to take smaller doses like 3g or they have problems; i actually have alot of theories about why that may be with certain people, with potential ways to remedy that. i can get into that further...

    with regards to the other parrt of your question, im a huge fan of sustained-release arginine alphaketaglutarate for alot of reasons:

    1. 24/7 pumps. ive found this to occur with the two brands ive mentioned above. i have tried sustained-release in other brands that didnt quite have that effect. it takes up to 21 days of faithful dosing to achive this powerful effect. well, its a cosmetic/endurance effect, and it dissapates within 5 days of stopping the product, but i will see half an inch added to my bicep all day (which is just glycogen and blood). this stuff pumps me up so much i cant get my arms around enough to scratch my own back. there is something very cool about being pumped rock hard 24/7, even though its dismissed as a cosmetic effect
    2. improved endurance. some of this may be attributed to the ketaglutarate aspect of the products, as most glumamine is taken by the gi tract, with lyposomal and even more alkaline delivery systems the few extra grams that go right to the bloodstream from these products is able to get to muscle
    3. insane sex drive. i mean, my there is bloodflow down there constantly. its actually an annoyance; not even thinking about sex and i find myself totally ready to go. whereas viagra only stops you from destroying your own nitric oxide, this stuff supplies you with abundant nitric oxide. 80% of seminal fluid is comprised of arginine
    4. i dont notice a strength increase and never have from an arginine product. yeah. ive heard that is also true of hgh in alot of studies, even though people add alot of muscle.
    5. i grow on arginine. im not sure why, but i get alot more tricep developement without changing my routine. i suspect in my case the extra blood flow enables that area of my body to be better nourished with aminos ect

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    hey can you get a arginine dosage amount used in this patch for us?

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    Unfortunately, no. Any AgeForce product containing more than one ingredient is considered proprietary to them and they can only disclose the ingredients in it, without amounts. Even if it were half the amount though, you have to take into consideration that transdermal delivery removes internal processing from the equation, and is more effective by driving it straight to the blood stream--less is more.
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    Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    That's the beauty of transdermal. No gastric issues. Straight to bloodstream.
    Thats one of the MAIN reasons I use some of these products is because I have a lousy stomach, esp with creatine, henece as to why I am using the creatine/Beta patches right now. I still use the reg creatine mono or powerchews on off days from the gym but on training days using the patch right now.

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