DecaSARM RDe

[SynergyIre]

You are better off using decavol in that case. DecaSARM should not be used with other steroids or prohormones.
Stanadrol with either will keep your libido going.

Why wouldn't you use it with other PH's? Hadn't noticed this before.

[Royd The Noyd]

Why wouldn't you use it with other PH's? Hadn't noticed this before.

It essentially eliminates half the benefits of DecaSARM when you stack it with a suppressive PH. It's designed to be anabolic only in tissues that matter (muscle, bone). Steroid's/ph will be anabolic in other tissues and disrupt the HPTA. SARM's in general should not be used with anabolics, when you do, you just make the SARM into an expensive anabolic.

[SynergyIre]

It essentially eliminates half the benefits of DecaSARM when you stack it with a suppressive PH. It's designed to be anabolic only in tissues that matter (muscle, bone). Steroid's/ph will be anabolic in other tissues and disrupt the HPTA. SARM's in general should not be used with anabolics, when you do, you just make the SARM into an expensive anabolic.

Ah ok, that makes sense. In that case more useful to run between suppressive cycles, right?

[Royd The Noyd]

Ah ok, that makes sense. In that case more useful to run between suppressive cycles, right?

Yep, or even leading up to a cycle to help lean out. The cyclo'd naringenin makes for a good cutter.

[stankyleg]

Any feedback on libido effects?

[Royd The Noyd]

Any feedback on libido effects?

Personally I noticed no issues. Woke up most mornings full staff.

[rs_pwner]

Personally I noticed no issues. Woke up most mornings full staff.

That last part made me giggle a bit, however I just got my DecaSARM in the mail, gonna run it one month before summer and see how well it goes, got my PF and HT to go with ha, arom for afterwards so this way i'll be set straight through summer. So basically what i'm getting out of these comments, is just taking DecaSARM without any other type of prohormone is best? In that case I should be good .

[Celorza]

It essentially eliminates half the benefits of DecaSARM when you stack it with a suppressive PH. It's designed to be anabolic only in tissues that matter (muscle, bone). Steroid's/ph will be anabolic in other tissues and disrupt the HPTA. SARM's in general should not be used with anabolics, when you do, you just make the SARM into an expensive anabolic.

So let me get this straight , bit of a noob here, DecaSARM is not a pro hormone? and also , its best for CUTTING? So as a lower carb diet , more cardio involved? PCT needed?

[hvactech]

So let me get this straight , bit of a noob here, DecaSARM is not a pro hormone? and also , its best for CUTTING? So as a lower carb diet , more cardio involved? PCT needed?

decasarm is a SARM not a ph so no pct needed....not cutting per say but promotes a leaning effect...you can use it in a cut if you choose and your diet and cardio is up to you

[Celorza]

decasarm is a SARM not a ph so no pct needed....not cutting per say but promotes a leaning effect...you can use it in a cut if you choose and your diet and cardio is up to you

I know I'm gonna get smacked with "Do your research" which I did, but I still dont understand really the basics of a SARM :/...

[Grambo]

I know I'm gonna get smacked with "Do your research" which I did, but I still dont understand really the basics of a SARM :/...

Feeling generous...

Much more complicated but simply: Androgens (Testosterone, etc) act on Androgen Receptors, SARMs are basically compounds that act on the same receptors but aren't technically hormones themselves therefore don't illicit some of the negative side effects that also comes along with exogenous hormones.......theoretically (and somewhat in practice)

[Celorza]

Feeling generous...

Much more complicated but simply: Androgens (Testosterone, etc) act on Androgen Receptors, SARMs are basically compounds that act on the same receptors but aren't technically hormones themselves therefore don't illicit some of the negative side effects that also comes along with exogenous hormones.......theoretically (and somewhat in practice)

Thank you sir , I read you also mentioned in another post DecaSARM does not cause suppression (or very minimal). I think it would be good for me to consider it for a recomp! Since it promotes a lean enviroment, but also is meant to build muscle like AMS website says! !

[hvactech]

again your diet would be the deciding factor but yes, ive actually got a recomp idea with decasarm and lean xtreme i may try

[Royd The Noyd]

Thanks Grambo. Here is another short explanation of a SARM I wrote:

There are currently very few, if any, natural SARMs available. In addition the quality of many underground or research chem shops is questionable (1). Still it’s important we stay current on natural SARMs and understanding their use. Testosterone is an all powerful hormone as we all know. Unfortunately testosterone impacts not only muscle growth, but several other tissues in the body. It’s great for bones and building muscle, but it has negative impacts on the prostate, and side effects such as increased blood pressure (2) (3). This is where SARMs come in. SARMs are selectively activating anabolic activity in muscle and bone only, thus eliminating the negative side effects associated with testosterone (4). The referenced research review states the following:

“Therefore, therapeutic agents such as SARMs that can achieve anabolic effects on the skeletal muscle and bone without the dose-limiting adverse effects associated with testosterone would be attractive as function promoting anabolic therapies (1,2,6).”

[Celorza]

Thanks Grambo. Here is another short explanation of a SARM I wrote:

There are currently very few, if any, natural SARMs available. In addition the quality of many underground or research chem shops is questionable (1). Still it’s important we stay current on natural SARMs and understanding their use. Testosterone is an all powerful hormone as we all know. Unfortunately testosterone impacts not only muscle growth, but several other tissues in the body. It’s great for bones and building muscle, but it has negative impacts on the prostate, and side effects such as increased blood pressure (2) (3). This is where SARMs come in. SARMs are selectively activating anabolic activity in muscle and bone only, thus eliminating the negative side effects associated with testosterone (4). The referenced research review states the following:

“Therefore, therapeutic agents such as SARMs that can achieve anabolic effects on the skeletal muscle and bone without the dose-limiting adverse effects associated with testosterone would be attractive as function promoting anabolic therapies (1,2,6).”

I've been thinking DecaSARM RDe and Arom-X would be a kick ass recomp help, nice AI, test boosting , the SARM , and a good carlorical surplus on training days and a slight deficit on rest days and cardio thrown in , would make a definite recomp , without side effects, and an edge thanks to the supps!!

[Royd The Noyd]

I've been thinking DecaSARM RDe and Arom-X would be a kick ass recomp help, nice AI, test boosting , the SARM , and a good carlorical surplus on training days and a slight deficit on rest days and cardio thrown in , would make a definite recomp , without side effects, and an edge thanks to the supps!!

Agreed great stack

[Celorza]

Agreed great stack

How many weeks though?

[Royd The Noyd]

How many weeks though?

You could run that stack anywhere from 4 to 8 weeks.

[hvactech]

do yourself a favor and get the workhorse stack on sale...the sarm and aromx are good for 6-8 weeks

[Celorza]

do yourself a favor and get the workhorse stack on sale...the sarm and aromx are good for 6-8 weeks

yeah haha I would get massive mass gains which is what I need right now xD , but I'm kinda scared to try the PH's in the work horse stack :S, i dont know much about how they work , the andro i mean , i dont know how it works , or pct stuff for it :/