Nasty Dienedrone sides

[Jeff Rippe]

I did a lot of reading up before I decided to try Dienedrone and it sounded fairly low risk. I have used other products in the past with no trouble (Pheraplex, original 1-AD, 1-Test, etc.). I am not a "noobie" and am very aware of how my body reacts to diet supps and training.

I have been taking Dienedrone for 1 week now, 100mg/day split am/pm.

By the middle of the first day I noticed a strange side effect that I have felt everyday since - burning in my ears (like a sunburn) and face. The third day on Dienedrone I also had swollen hands - so much so that I had bruises the next day after lifting. The swelling has subsided but the burning ears/face persist. I also feel pressure in my head - especially when bending over to tie shoes, etc.

These symptoms seem to indicate my BP has skyrocketed yet I have not seen posts from anyone else stating similar significant problems with Dienedrone.

So, what could be the problem here? Is it likely a BP issue or something else? I intend to get the BP checked ASAP - don't want to let this go if it is a BP issue. Hawthorn berry (recently added) hasn't helped.

Maybe I'm done?

[stxnas]

Hawthorne needs to be pre-loaded.

If you're worried that your sides are being caused by the Dienedrone, then I would suggest that it should no longer be taken until the issue is resolved.

I'm sure a rep will chime in as soon as one of them reads your thread.

[suncloud]

I did a lot of reading up before I decided to try Dienedrone and it sounded fairly low risk. I have used other products in the past with no trouble (Pheraplex, original 1-AD, 1-Test, etc.). I am not a "noobie" and am very aware of how my body reacts to diet supps and training.

I have been taking Dienedrone for 1 week now, 100mg/day split am/pm.

By the middle of the first day I noticed a strange side effect that I have felt everyday since - burning in my ears (like a sunburn) and face. The third day on Dienedrone I also had swollen hands - so much so that I had bruises the next day after lifting. The swelling has subsided but the burning ears/face persist. I also feel pressure in my head - especially when bending over to tie shoes, etc.

These symptoms seem to indicate my BP has skyrocketed yet I have not seen posts from anyone else stating similar significant problems with Dienedrone.

So, what could be the problem here? Is it likely a BP issue or something else? I intend to get the BP checked ASAP - don't want to let this go if it is a BP issue. Hawthorn berry (recently added) hasn't helped.

Maybe I'm done?

brotha, if you got sides of anything in one day, you should quit. even M1T won't hit you that quick, and that was by far the worst on blood pressure. my guess is you had a very high blood pressure before you started this cycle.

with anything that can raise blood pressure, you should:
dose hawthorn berries or celery seed extract
do more cardio to offset the blood pressure
cut down on sodium and stims like caffeine

if you haven't done any of those things, that's where i would start - or just quit the cycle, get your ducks in a row and restart the cycle in a month.

[subweevil]

with anything that can raise blood pressure, you should:
dose hawthorn berries or celery seed extract
do more cardio to offset the blood pressure
cut down on sodium and stims like caffeine

Hawthorne needs to be pre-loaded.

That's solid advice right there!! Best to start your support stuff at least a few weeks before going into it,and continue like-wise for a few weeks after. Correct me if I'm wrong guys, but you could add some doses of arginine and/or other vasodilators to reduce blood pressure some, just an idea. Good luck, and keep us posted!!

[Royd The Noyd]

This guys have hit the nail on the head basicallly. How much do you weight and at what BF%?

Did anything else recently change in your diet, supplementation, or training? It all sounds BP related and if so, it is likely best to discontinue this cycle immediately.

[tattoopierced1]

very strange indeed.. have you recently had a complete physical to check to see how healthy you were to begin with? If not, I'd schedule something with a doc ASAP to at least get your baselines before you run another PH.

[Jeff Rippe]

Thanks, guys, for all the good info and advice. The Hawthorn berry does seem to be kicking in as I feel much better today BUT I will still get the BP checked and stop the cycle if bad.

I am 5'11", 210 pounds at around 14%BF (per calipers). I've been lifting for about 30 years. I was hoping D would help me hold muscle mass while I lean out a bit (re-comp).

I am 46 years old, work at a desk job for 10 hours a day and drive in LA traffic. Yeah, could be some BP issues. Need more cardio I'm sure.

[JOHNJESSICA20]

Definatly get that blood pressure checked and maybe even a physical. Id personally would stop taking it and see if the side decrease/disappear if not then there may be another problem. Ive not heard of these side with anyone taking product ,but every body is different.

[Jeff Rippe]

OK guys - just had my BP checked - 130/75. That's really surprising and good IMHO considering I'm "on a cycle".

So then, what's causing my ears to burn? The Milk thistle? Increased metabolism? "Hormone flush"?

[tattoopierced1]

Could be just an increase in your body's temperature.

[subweevil]

am 46 years old, work at a desk job for 10 hours a day and drive in LA traffic. Yeah, could be some BP issues.

HAHA, well put!! just thinkin' about traffic gets my bp up!! Glad to see you got checked, nice to have something to work with there. What other supps, if any, are you on bud?

[Jeff Rippe]

HAHA, well put!! just thinkin' about traffic gets my bp up!! Glad to see you got checked, nice to have something to work with there. What other supps, if any, are you on bud?

No other supps right now - wanted to know exactly what the Dienedrone was doing.

I take CoQ10, multi-vitamins, protein shake etc. every morning; BCAAs pre-workout and protein powder blend post workout. Routine stuff.

One question - I have seen several other posts saying that it would be crazy to take more than 100mg a day. Why? Apparently there ARE side effects. What are they?

[tattoopierced1]

No other supps right now - wanted to know exactly what the Dienedrone was doing.

I take CoQ10, multi-vitamins, protein shake etc. every morning; BCAAs pre-workout and protein powder blend post workout. Routine stuff.

One question - I have seen several other posts saying that it would be crazy to take more than 100mg a day. Why? Apparently there ARE side effects. What are they?

100mg is the breaking point for when you start seeing more noticable sides compared to gains. I respond better to higher runs of things, however with Dienedrone I packed on 10lbs easy off of 100mg. Honestly people should probably run it at 50mg to start and assess their tolerance. This stuff is powerful.

[Jeff Rippe]

100mg is the breaking point for when you start seeing more noticable sides compared to gains.

Like what, for example? Sides like I am experiencing or something else?

[suncloud]

Like what, for example? Sides like I am experiencing or something else?

no. above 120mg the aggression becomes hard to control, male pattern balding can present itself. back/calf pumps will show up as well. 100mg is a perfect dose IMO considering risk/reward.

not saying it happens to everyone, but around 120-150mg is when it happens to most. kinda like cars - your results may vary

[tattoopierced1]

increased blood pressure, night sweats, MPB, acne, basically tren sides.

[subweevil]

but around 120-150mg is when it happens to most. kinda like cars - your results may vary

Haha, funny stuff, but true!! Gratz on just taking 'Drone by itself, that's always helpful to pinpoint gains, among other things. Everything I have read and heard backs up what the other guys said. I'm all for the least amount of something to get the desired result.

[Jeff Rippe]

I'm all for the least amount of something to get the desired result.

So if I back off to 1 cap a day (50mg) would I still get noticeable results or is it not enough for my size (210 pounds)?

This ear burning thing is not good. Still suspect it's BP related. Either that or I am allergic to something in the mix.

[subweevil]

If you back down and it solves the issue, that works. You could always assess it and then go from there. However, if your allergic to something in it, I'm thinking the problem your having will only moderately be reduced. I'm sure you'd still get results, not just as fast as you would at the full dosing. I'm sure the others can chime in with some good input. If your super worried, most Wal-Marts have a testing station where you can test your blood pressure, it should give you a ballpark if your still worried. Good luck man!!

[Royd The Noyd]

I'd agree with you Jeff it still sounds BP related. There could be BP spikes and you just happened to test at a different time.

Also you can definitely still gain off of 50mg/day. You might be one of the lucky hyper responders. Some guys are just more sensitive to certain compounds and vice versa.

Its best to be safe though so keep that BP monitored, hawthorne going, water intake high, and lower sodium.