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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Which companies were you referring about then? To make a statement like that you must have lab results...


    After that we can discuss USP using their own reps for reviews if you like.
    You don't have to believe it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    Which companies were you referring about then? To make a statement like that you must have lab results...

    After that we can discuss USP using their own reps for reviews if you like.
    hmmm, that's interesting.

    Neither you, or any of the other SNS reps, have ever given a review or testimony to the efficacy of the products they rep for? I wonder how you guys weigh in on questions about them then....
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    Question is, which companies are safe to buy?

    I have to rethink what I buy now! I normally buy products with added BCAAS etc
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    I think just having an amino blend largely of glycine and taurine is enough to be suspicious of protein claims...

    To the guy asking who, I don't know if it is cool to name here so check the thread that bdcc mentioned. It is a good thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    I think just having an amino blend largely of glycine and taurine is enough to be suspicious of protein claims...

    To the guy asking who, I don't know if it is cool to name here so check the thread that bdcc mentioned. It is a good thread.
    Fair enough. I use to buy 80% pure bulk WPC! Im glad Usplabs made us aware, at least I know what to look for now. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Unrealistic condition (because they were not carb and fat included meals). BUT timing might actually matter to some degree:



    Daytime pattern of post-exercise protein intake affects whole-body protein turnover in resistance-trained males


    Moore, DR; Areta, J; Coffey, VG; Stellingwerff, T; Phillips, SM; Burke, LM; Cl?roux, M; Godin, JP; Hawley, JA
    ABSTRACT: BACKGROUND: The pattern of protein intake following exercise may impact whole-body protein turnover and net protein retention. We determined the effects of different protein feeding strategies on protein metabolism in resistance-trained young men. METHODS: Participants were randomly assigned to ingest either 80g of whey protein as 8x10g every 1.5h (PULSE; n=8), 4x20g every 3h (intermediate, INT; n=7), or 2x40g every 6h (BOLUS; n=8) after an acute bout of bilateral knee extension exercise (4x10 repetitions at 80% maximal strength). Whole-body protein turnover (Q), synthesis (S), breakdown (B), and net balance (NB) were measured throughout 12h of recovery by a bolus ingestion of [15N]glycine with urinary [15N]ammonia enrichment as the collected end-product. RESULTS: PULSE Q rates were greater than BOLUS (~19%, P<0.05) with a trend towards being greater than INT (~9%, P=0.08). Rates of S were 32% and 19% greater and rates of B were 51% and 57% greater for PULSE as compared to INT and BOLUS, respectively (P<0.05), with no difference between INT and BOLUS. There were no statistical differences in NB between groups (P=0.23); however, magnitude-based inferential statistics revealed likely small (mean effect+/-90%CI; 0.59+/-0.87) and moderate (0.80+/-0.91) increases in NB for PULSE and INT compared to BOLUS and possible small increase (0.42+/-1.00) for INT vs. PULSE. CONCLUSION: We conclude that the pattern of ingested protein, and not only the total daily amount, can impact whole-body protein metabolism. Individuals aiming to maximize NB would likely benefit from repeated ingestion of moderate amounts of protein (~20g) at regular intervals (~3h) throughout the day.

    What source of protein did they use? Was it slow or fast?

    And what about intakes over 80 grams over six hours?

    this is interesting in that it gives us a snapshot look at protein metabolism, but its practical implications are quite limited
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    the protein powder market is so competitive that mislabeling and deception are all but inevitable. Most consumers buy on price and taste and dont know enough to be wary. As I said before I buy optimum nutrition. The USP product is probably decent as well
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    I get my protein from my own home grown ground chicken thrown in a blender with apple juice....I know exactly what's in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I get my protein from my own home grown ground chicken thrown in a blender with apple juice....I know exactly what's in it.
    Srs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike0589 View Post

    Srs?
    Extreamly

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    Had a Rib eye cooked medium, half slab of ribs, taters, and veggies today. That's my kind of protein!.
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    Taters only cause its my carb up!
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    Of course I took 2 anabolic pump and 2 Compound 20 with my meal. AP 20-25 minutes prior.
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    This may explain why I noticed a real difference when I dropped protein powders and switched to 100% whole food sources. Sometimes I miss the convenience. Still, I bet the inner circle tub I ordered will last a while, I've fallen in love with chewing my food again.
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    So OP started a thread asking PA what he thought about protein. Now it has devolved into whole food is better. I am surprised PA takes the time to respond. (no disrespect OP)
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Had a Rib eye cooked medium, half slab of ribs, taters, and veggies today. That's my kind of protein!.

    ur gonna get fat
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Of course I took 2 anabolic pump and 2 Compound 20 with my meal. AP 20-25 minutes prior.

    yer still gonna get fat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post

    ur gonna get fat
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post

    yer still gonna get fat
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    Pat, you said you take casein powder. do you prefer that to whey, and if so, why? just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bossman523 View Post
    Pat, you said you take casein powder. do you prefer that to whey, and if so, why? just curious.

    whey gives me digestive issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    the protein powder market is so competitive that mislabeling and deception are all but inevitable. Most consumers buy on price and taste and dont know enough to be wary. As I said before I buy optimum nutrition. The USP product is probably decent as well
    I know of a company that wouldn't engage in those practices if they decided to re-release their protein under Prototype.
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    No whey Jose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    I know of a company that wouldn't engage in those practices if they decided to re-release their protein under Prototype.

    this is true
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post

    this is true
    Good. Put me down for multiple tubs.
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    are you planning on getting (back) into the protein game, Pat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bossman523 View Post
    are you planning on getting (back) into the protein game, Pat?

    we plan on making small batches of gf pro to sell on our prototype nutrition site. first flavor orange cream, second vanilla i think
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post

    we plan on making small batches of gf pro to sell on our prototype nutrition site. first flavor orange cream, second vanilla i think
    No blueberry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    No blueberry?

    blueberry has some fans but it was one of our slowest sellers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post

    we plan on making small batches of gf pro to sell on our prototype nutrition site. first flavor orange cream, second vanilla i think
    What is the timeline?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    we plan on making small batches of gf pro to sell on our prototype nutrition site. first flavor orange cream, second vanilla i think
    coconut! i want coconut flavor but u dont always get what u want
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    i also love coconut
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    What is the timeline?

    when we have the funds. i have no idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post

    when we have the funds. i have no idea
    Prepayment? If you are running limited batches, is that a viable option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    Prepayment? If you are running limited batches, is that a viable option?

    you are talking to the wrong person. i dont make that decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post

    you are talking to the wrong person. i dont make that decision.
    Well I'll get in contact with the right people then because I want some GF-Pro.
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