PA, Could you help identify those two compounds?

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    PA, Could you help identify those two compounds?


    1 - 6, 17-keto-etiocholan-3-beta tetrahydra-pyranol

    2 -
    4-eioallocholen-3,6,17-trione



    I believe the first one is ATD, but the second don't have idea.

    Thank you.

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    Isn't that 6-OXO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaire2d View Post
    1 - 6, 17-keto-etiocholan-3-beta tetrahydra-pyranol

    2 -
    4-eioallocholen-3,6,17-trione



    I believe the first one is ATD, but the second don't have idea.

    Thank you.

    those were ingredients in Gaspari Novedex

    the first is a 6-oxo precursor

    the second is ATD
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    Thank you both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    those were ingredients in Gaspari Novedex

    the first is a 6-oxo precursor

    the second is ATD
    Do you believe this one: 6, 17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol tetrahydropyranol is a good choice for AI ?

    Thank you again.
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    Well what do you consider "good" for an AI? High or low IC50? 6-oxo has a kinda high IC50 whereas ATD and 6-bromo have pretty low IC50s.


    fyi, the lower the value of IC50, the higher the activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaire2d View Post
    Do you believe this one: 6, 17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol tetrahydropyranol is a good choice for AI ?

    Thank you again.

    its not really great, probably has to convert to 6-oxo to have activity
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    are 6-oxo and atd still produced? still legal?
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    I recently saw on amazon some PCT supplements which contain ATD.
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    i looked just for the hell of it. i could not find any.
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    For example, PCT Xtreme by Iron Labs. I guess I can't post links here but you can find it on amazon. The ingedients of PCT Xtreme aren't listed on amazon but you can google it and find that it contains 35 mg of ATD per 2 capsules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bossman523 View Post
    are 6-oxo and atd still produced? still legal?
    I still have some ATD, 6-OXO, and 6-bromo. Don't be jelly.

    They're still legal afaik, but the problem arises with people complaining of "contaminations".

    Isn't iron labs that company making one-off steroids too? With that 3-substituted diazo steroid and another with a 2,5-diene in the A-ring?
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    i am jelly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Isn't iron labs that company making one-off steroids too? With that 3-substituted diazo steroid and another with a 2,5-diene in the A-ring?
    No, I guess that's another company called Iron Legion =)
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    i have two more for you, Pat:


    18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol


    2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-Hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one


    i just found this stuff for sale on the interwebs, believe it or not. i think the 2nd substance may be superdrol and the 1st substance is similar to norbolethone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bossman523 View Post
    i have two more for you, Pat:


    18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol


    2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-Hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one


    i just found this stuff for sale on the interwebs, believe it or not. i think the 2nd substance may be superdrol and the 1st substance is similar to norbolethone?

    non 17a alkylated norbolethone and superdrol
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    damn, i can't believe this place is selling this stuff. i wonder if it's legit. thanks Pat!
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