Nastiest Pro-Hormone/ Pro-Steroid/ Steriod You've Used

[chico1]

Aynone ever experienced any bad sides on Hdrol? From what I've heard its one of the mildest, but just curious.

[bigadam73]

Aynone ever experienced any bad sides on Hdrol? From what I've heard its one of the mildest, but just curious.

Yes, I got delayed gyno after a h drol cycle... Most likely because of the bunk research chems I used for pct

[Beejis60]

Yes, I got delayed gyno after a h drol cycle... Most likely because of the bunk research chems I used for pct

Well, what did you use as a PCT? If you used an AI, then it's not bunk research chems but more like you're an idiot.

[bigadam73]

Well, what did you use as a PCT? If you used an AI, then it's not bunk research chems but more like you're an idiot.

I used a serm. Nolva

[Beejis60]

I used a serm. Nolva

Well you have to look at the obvious... did you use testosterone with this? If not, then you're just asking for trouble in the first place. Little to no circulating test exacerbates side effects massively; that's why I hate these PH/DS only cycles that people run and bitch about all the negatives they feel. Shyt, even test at 150mg/week would have helped. Either way, I don't like using tamox so I cannot comment on what I've felt and/or blood facts from my experience. The question you need to ask yourself though is at what dose are you running a SERM when you have no test circulating? Do you understand the pharmacokinetics of tamox? Or are you just taking the off-the-shelf ebro recommendation of tamox use? As my understanding, HD use and PCT was easier than drinking water, however I believe that HD tends to increase estrogen so AI use in tandem with clomid could have been a viable option if you had used it properly. In the end, it's hard to rationalize an ending of story with a fragment. It could be bunk shyt, it could be you, or it could be a million other things.

[Captn_the]

^^^ good post :thumb:

Yes, I got delayed gyno after a h drol cycle... Most likely because of the bunk research chems I used for pct

Plenty of ppl had issues with CEL mdrol, not so much hdrol.

I think superdrol is generally mild in regards to sides, but I only ever used IML products - so it appears the purity of the source counts for much. Oh, I would always run it with test.

Tren? Jesus. Love-hate. I keep my doses well low, like 40mg ED and run for a Max of 6 weeks. It rockets my libido but fks with my sleeping. Post tren depression is a bitch

[thegodfather]

Tren scares me.

[snagencyV2.0]

Methyl-1-Testosterone (M1T). I also recall P.A. saying that M1T was the nastiest anabolic/ androgenic agent he had ever tried in terms of side-effects.

that's pretty apt description..most powerful for benefits, and worst ever for sides, simultaneously
(hmm maybe there's a connection?)
blew you up quicker than anything, and you deflated afterwards almost as quickly
horrible stuff, devil on this earth..but i don't do well with methylated product anyway

Havoc made my joints feel dry. The gains were crap.

you were taking havoc for "gains"?

[GQNemesis]

I miss. Kilosports Trenadrol

[Beejis60]

Tren scares me.

Hope this is sarcastic...

tren or gtfo

[thegodfather]

Hope this is sarcastic...

tren or gtfo

Really?? Guess I better GTFO cuz I can't hang with BJ.

[Ceredumbellum]

Haven't checked to see if anyone has mentioned EQ yet. I got amazing results but it left me so lethargic all I wanted to do was sleep. I was taking 100mg of Ephedrine a day while on that stuff just to push through.

[Captn_the]

Damn, really? I didn't think it got much milder than EQ!

[marshall28]

you were taking havoc for "gains"?

I gained 16lbs and 180lbs on my big 3 lifts on a 6 week run. Never going over 50mg. Will run again.

[jamesm11]

Damn, really? I didn't think it got much milder than EQ!

I've heard it can give ridiculous anxiety issues, and it's a really long ester so it takes a while to clear. Nothing to do but hold on

[Captn_the]

I've heard it can give ridiculous anxiety issues, and it's a really long ester so it takes a while to clear. Nothing to do but hold on

I think it's an issue if you're prone to anxiety. It's the same with anger issues and tren :coffee:

[staple]

wow patrick that is intense. how much of the stuff did you run? same results on the lowest dose too? scary

[ericool007]

Tren gave me anxiety that lasted 3-4 months after cycle even with a proper pct and acne that landed me at the dermatologist plus terrible chest pains.

11-oxo not that it was harsh at all just makes me feel miserable, like a heavyness in my head feeling, and tired plus it leaves me looking flat and worst off before i took it. I read one other person who said the same thing here:

Hated It By: Garrett

Review posted on: Sat Feb 12 2300 -0500 2011
While taking this product, I became tired and irritable. In addition to bad mood, my joints hurt and I lost fullness. I stopped taking 11-oxo after about 1 week. I tried taking it again a few weeks later but at a lower dose and started to experience the same side effects.

At least i wasnt the only one lol.

[Patrick Arnold]

Tren gave me anxiety that lasted 3-4 months after cycle even with a proper pct and acne that landed me at the dermatologist plus terrible chest pains.

11-oxo not that it was harsh at all just makes me feel miserable, like a heavyness in my head feeling, and tired plus it leaves me looking flat and worst off before i took it. I read one other person who said the same thing here:

Hated It By: Garrett

Review posted on: Sat Feb 12 2300 -0500 2011
While taking this product, I became tired and irritable. In addition to bad mood, my joints hurt and I lost fullness. I stopped taking 11-oxo after about 1 week. I tried taking it again a few weeks later but at a lower dose and started to experience the same side effects.

At least i wasnt the only one lol.

bumskis

[ericool007]

bumskis

any reason why 11-oxo would affect me like that or you think im just one of the few unluckys lol.