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    Aynone ever experienced any bad sides on Hdrol? From what I've heard its one of the mildest, but just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico1 View Post
    Aynone ever experienced any bad sides on Hdrol? From what I've heard its one of the mildest, but just curious.
    Yes, I got delayed gyno after a h drol cycle... Most likely because of the bunk research chems I used for pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigadam73 View Post
    Yes, I got delayed gyno after a h drol cycle... Most likely because of the bunk research chems I used for pct
    Well, what did you use as a PCT? If you used an AI, then it's not bunk research chems but more like you're an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Well, what did you use as a PCT? If you used an AI, then it's not bunk research chems but more like you're an idiot.
    I used a serm. Nolva
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigadam73 View Post
    I used a serm. Nolva
    Well you have to look at the obvious... did you use testosterone with this? If not, then you're just asking for trouble in the first place. Little to no circulating test exacerbates side effects massively; that's why I hate these PH/DS only cycles that people run and bitch about all the negatives they feel. Shyt, even test at 150mg/week would have helped. Either way, I don't like using tamox so I cannot comment on what I've felt and/or blood facts from my experience. The question you need to ask yourself though is at what dose are you running a SERM when you have no test circulating? Do you understand the pharmacokinetics of tamox? Or are you just taking the off-the-shelf ebro recommendation of tamox use? As my understanding, HD use and PCT was easier than drinking water, however I believe that HD tends to increase estrogen so AI use in tandem with clomid could have been a viable option if you had used it properly. In the end, it's hard to rationalize an ending of story with a fragment. It could be bunk shyt, it could be you, or it could be a million other things.
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    ^^^ good post :thumb:


    Quote Originally Posted by bigadam73 View Post
    Yes, I got delayed gyno after a h drol cycle... Most likely because of the bunk research chems I used for pct
    Plenty of ppl had issues with CEL mdrol, not so much hdrol.

    I think superdrol is generally mild in regards to sides, but I only ever used IML products - so it appears the purity of the source counts for much. Oh, I would always run it with test.

    Tren? Jesus. Love-hate. I keep my doses well low, like 40mg ED and run for a Max of 6 weeks. It rockets my libido but fks with my sleeping. Post tren depression is a bitch
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    Tren scares me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceredumbellum View Post
    Methyl-1-Testosterone (M1T). I also recall P.A. saying that M1T was the nastiest anabolic/ androgenic agent he had ever tried in terms of side-effects.
    that's pretty apt description..most powerful for benefits, and worst ever for sides, simultaneously
    (hmm maybe there's a connection?)
    blew you up quicker than anything, and you deflated afterwards almost as quickly
    horrible stuff, devil on this earth..but i don't do well with methylated product anyway


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    Havoc made my joints feel dry. The gains were crap.
    you were taking havoc for "gains"?
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    I miss. Kilosports Trenadrol
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    Tren scares me.
    Hope this is sarcastic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Hope this is sarcastic...

    tren or gtfo
    Really?? Guess I better GTFO cuz I can't hang with BJ.
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    Haven't checked to see if anyone has mentioned EQ yet. I got amazing results but it left me so lethargic all I wanted to do was sleep. I was taking 100mg of Ephedrine a day while on that stuff just to push through.
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    Damn, really? I didn't think it got much milder than EQ!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    you were taking havoc for "gains"?

    I gained 16lbs and 180lbs on my big 3 lifts on a 6 week run. Never going over 50mg. Will run again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn_the View Post
    Damn, really? I didn't think it got much milder than EQ!
    I've heard it can give ridiculous anxiety issues, and it's a really long ester so it takes a while to clear. Nothing to do but hold on
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    I've heard it can give ridiculous anxiety issues, and it's a really long ester so it takes a while to clear. Nothing to do but hold on
    I think it's an issue if you're prone to anxiety. It's the same with anger issues and tren :coffee:
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    wow patrick that is intense. how much of the stuff did you run? same results on the lowest dose too? scary
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    Tren gave me anxiety that lasted 3-4 months after cycle even with a proper pct and acne that landed me at the dermatologist plus terrible chest pains.

    11-oxo not that it was harsh at all just makes me feel miserable, like a heavyness in my head feeling, and tired plus it leaves me looking flat and worst off before i took it. I read one other person who said the same thing here:

    Hated It By: Garrett

    Review posted on: Sat Feb 12 2300 -0500 2011
    While taking this product, I became tired and irritable. In addition to bad mood, my joints hurt and I lost fullness. I stopped taking 11-oxo after about 1 week. I tried taking it again a few weeks later but at a lower dose and started to experience the same side effects.

    At least i wasnt the only one lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericool007 View Post
    Tren gave me anxiety that lasted 3-4 months after cycle even with a proper pct and acne that landed me at the dermatologist plus terrible chest pains.

    11-oxo not that it was harsh at all just makes me feel miserable, like a heavyness in my head feeling, and tired plus it leaves me looking flat and worst off before i took it. I read one other person who said the same thing here:

    Hated It By: Garrett

    Review posted on: Sat Feb 12 2300 -0500 2011
    While taking this product, I became tired and irritable. In addition to bad mood, my joints hurt and I lost fullness. I stopped taking 11-oxo after about 1 week. I tried taking it again a few weeks later but at a lower dose and started to experience the same side effects.

    At least i wasnt the only one lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
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    any reason why 11-oxo would affect me like that or you think im just one of the few unluckys lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericool007 View Post
    any reason why 11-oxo would affect me like that or you think im just one of the few unluckys lol.
    This thread is titled Nastiest Pro-Hormone/ Pro-Steroid/ Steriod You've Used


    I find it hard to believe that 11-oxo is on anyones nastiest pro hormone/pro steroid list of ph\ps that they've ever used..
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    yeah that DHEA really ****ed me up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    yeah that DHEA really ****ed me up
    right...lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Wood View Post
    Tren for me. Little to no sex drive, like shooting pool with a rope. And moody. I wanted to lift and beat anyone who got in my way at the gym, but in the next breath I wanted to go shoe shopping and watch the notebook. Hahaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    This thread is titled Nastiest Pro-Hormone/ Pro-Steroid/ Steriod You've Used


    I find it hard to believe that 11-oxo is on anyones nastiest pro hormone/pro steroid list of ph\ps that they've ever used..
    I already said tren was the worst for me, If you read my post i said 11oxo wasnt harsh at all, I tried it twice it just made me feel irritable and it felt like i got weaker and lost definition from it(that would put it on my list of Ph's i dont want to take again). The only other 2 ive done epi and h-drol made me feel great actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    yeah that DHEA really ****ed me up
    DHEA....

    not.even.once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    DHEA....

    not.even.once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericool007 View Post
    I already said tren was the worst for me, If you read my post i said 11oxo wasnt harsh at all, I tried it twice it just made me feel irritable and it felt like i got weaker and lost definition from it(that would put it on my list of Ph's i dont want to take again). The only other 2 ive done epi and h-drol made me feel great actually.
    I love 11 oxo and 11 keto even better. Didn't make me flat just chiseled. I mourn the passing of 11 spray.... best bridge product ever IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I love 11 oxo and 11 keto even better. Didn't make me flat just chiseled. I mourn the passing of 11 spray.... best bridge product ever IMO
    Most people do like it thats why i tried it twice just to be sure lol from 300 to 750 mgs, didnt do me any justice.

    Let me add 11 oxo wasnt harsh at all just seemd worthless and counter productive for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by staple View Post
    wow patrick that is intense. how much of the stuff did you run? same results on the lowest dose too? scary

    what are you referring to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    what are you referring to?
    how you ran the m1t which you said was the nastiest **** you ever ran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    You're a proat.
    Coming from the guy who needed instruction on wtf a proat was, yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Coming from the guy who needed instruction on wtf a proat was, yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by staple View Post
    how you ran the m1t which you said was the nastiest **** you ever ran.
    i actually made my own m1T before legal gear introduced it to the supplement market (which shocked me btw)

    i think i was taking ten mg a day. it was around the two week mark or something and I realized that the stuff was gonna kill me. so i stopped and felt better in a week or so i guess. i also had bloody noses pretty bad for a while after that
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    Pretty cool that it was homemade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Pretty cool that it was homemade.

    just one reaction away from mestanolone really
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    Excuse me for just jumping into this thread but I need information/help with a serious issue i experienced with a Pro-hormone. I had taken it a little over a year and a half ago but I am still experiencing some serious side effects that 3 different doctors could not diagonse or really understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Guy17 View Post
    Excuse me for just jumping into this thread but I need information/help with a serious issue i experienced with a Pro-hormone. I had taken it a little over a year and a half ago but I am still experiencing some serious side effects that 3 different doctors could not diagonse or really understand.
    u can bring it up here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Guy17 View Post
    Excuse me for just jumping into this thread but I need information/help with a serious issue i experienced with a Pro-hormone. I had taken it a little over a year and a half ago but I am still experiencing some serious side effects that 3 different doctors could not diagonse or really understand.
    What happened, did you grow an extra limb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i actually made my own m1T before legal gear introduced it to the supplement market (which shocked me btw)
    2 things. .

    1. You should've introduced M1T to the market first, you could've made a lot of money. .
    2. Can you make me some? ?
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