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  1.  10-27-2012  01:26 PM
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    UA + TUDCA?


    Hey Patrick Arnold,

    I was just thinking, would the inclusion of TUDCA in an oral Ursolic Acid product promote absorption? It supposedly enhances the absorption of oral androgens, and I've read that UA is supposed to be taken with fats for enhanced absorption.

    Worthwhile endeavor?

    Thanks,

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  2.  10-28-2012  09:26 AM
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    Originally Posted by rambofireball View Post
    Hey Patrick Arnold,I was just thinking, would the inclusion of TUDCA in an oral Ursolic Acid product promote absorption? It supposedly enhances the absorption of oral androgens, and I've read that UA is supposed to be taken with fats for enhanced absorption.Worthwhile endeavor?Thanks,Rambo.
    i wasnt aware of tudca helping absorption of steroids. i thought it was taken to protect the liverit is a bile acid so maybe it could help dissolution into fats, but i dunno if that really would make much difference
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    Yeah I feel like I read something by Jake Antaeus about the aid in absorption, but I might be wrong.

    Maybe you've already been over this, but what about the use of cyclodextrins for increased absorption?

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    Originally Posted by rambofireball View Post
    Yeah I feel like I read something by Jake Antaeus about the aid in absorption, but I might be wrong.

    Maybe you've already been over this, but what about the use of cyclodextrins for increased absorption?

    Thanks.
    Or liposomes?

  5.  10-29-2012  12:02 PM
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    Originally Posted by rambofireball View Post
    Yeah I feel like I read something by Jake Antaeus about the aid in absorption, but I might be wrong.

    Maybe you've already been over this, but what about the use of cyclodextrins for increased absorption?

    Thanks.
    u cannot just take cyclodextrins and hope they help absorption

    ingredients have to be complexed into the cyclodextrin. that wont happen in your gut
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    Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    Or liposomes?
    or derivatize it into a highly soluble form.
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  7.  10-29-2012  12:39 PM
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    What's wrong with you people? This was covered by Patrick Arnold in the December 2002 issue of Meso-rx.( Patrick Arnold archives). Pay attention! Oh.... that was twelve years ago....haha. Be careful or you may become obsessed with everything he writes. (Like me) Lol. Thank God for PA.

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    Originally Posted by Unclebuck View Post
    What's wrong with you people? This was covered by Patrick Arnold in the December 2002 issue of Meso-rx.( Patrick Arnold archives). Pay attention! Oh.... that was twelve years ago....haha. Be careful or you may become obsessed with everything he writes. (Like me) Lol. Thank God for PA.
    that brings back memories
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    Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    or derivatize it into a highly soluble form.
    I was referring to encasing UA inside the liposomes. Would this substantially increase absorption?

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    Originally Posted by Unclebuck View Post
    This was covered by Patrick Arnold in the December 2002 issue of Meso-rx.( Patrick Arnold archives). Pay attention! Oh.... that was twelve years ago..
    maybe Patrick also has a publication that teaches basic math skills to bodybuilders??
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  11.  10-30-2012  11:38 AM
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    Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    I was referring to encasing UA inside the liposomes. Would this substantially increase absorption?

    I am not sure but derivitization has way more potential
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