pes erase
- 09-21-2012, 11:26 AM
- 09-21-2012, 12:21 PM
Originally Posted by alexy89
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- 09-21-2012, 09:03 PM
- 09-24-2012, 07:02 PM
Well it won't lead to a rebound in and of itself (i.e. an "AI induced" rebound) however, depending on the hormonal situation in the body, it's certainly possible to have high estrogen after stopping an AI, high enough to cause sides... as such in PCT for heavy cycles I recommend a SERM tapered into an AI (suicidal) tapered into I3C (inexpensive estrogen channeling agent) for an extended period (or until blood work) to avoid any possible issues.
Of course, as jimbuick has implied, there should be nothing to worry about with an AI + DAA stack such as Erase + TF2... besides going to high on the Erase dosage and getting some joint pain... oh and the negative effect on blood lipids (cholesterol) that AI's have... - 09-25-2012, 01:49 AM
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- 09-25-2012, 02:14 AM
Originally Posted by muad33b
- 09-25-2012, 10:08 AM
I haven't read anything that suggest simply due to taking a suicidal AI and test booster for an extended period, say 8 weeks, will result in a rebound due to effects like you describe, although "uptake" is probably not an accurate term. In general, after stopping an AI, your E and T should return to baseline. The cases where folks report it doesn't (i.e. "delayed gyno") are complex, and seem to only be after strong steroid cycles that drastically disrupt the HPTA. Again, as I mentioned, if you're concerned, you can simply taper off the DAA and AI and start taking a good dose of I3C for awhile.
- 09-25-2012, 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by muad33b
- 09-25-2012, 09:10 PM
Originally Posted by alexy89
- 09-25-2012, 09:29 PM
2-3 weeks is typical for PCT... something like
week "x") 2/day (if you can handle 3 this would look a little different but you get the idea... 3/day of erase caused serious joint pain for me)
week "x+1") 1/day
week "x+2") 1 eod (every other day)
That said, for what you're doing, you could probably collapse this down to 3 days instead of a week...
Anyhow, with the I3C go with 400mg/day for as long as you feel like... the vitacost dot com stuff is pretty damn cheep; you can get like a 2 month supply at that dosage for < $20.
That all said, unless you're hormonal environment is unbalanced, for your typical "NHA" (non-hormonal anabolic) cycle, this is all overkill. But it shouldn't hurt much beyond the negative effect on lipids that an AI will have... and your wallet. :-) - 09-25-2012, 09:31 PM
- 09-25-2012, 09:53 PM
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