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  1. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    10400mg per 4 tab serving.
    130 grams of dessicated liver per jar

    40 bucks on amazon without shipping

    so if i were to take ten grams a day that would be 3 bucks a day
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  2. 20 tabs/day (25 if you want to do it right)..
    ultra-40 can be had for $30/32.
    @ 20 tabs daily = $1.20/day
    @25 tabs daily = $1.50/day

    i don't mind paying if i know what i'm getting is quality.

    the Universal product, i sh!t out undigested.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

    liver tabs are a cool supplement cuz they are cheap and packed with lots of good stuff. but they are so damn big to choke down.
    I prefer this over BCAAs. I find my energy level is better but you may have to dose higher to get the same recovery effects of BCAAs. There's an article here on AM about aminos between meals for growth.

    On a side note consider adding in IGF2 for gains and nutrient uptake. Dose it pre workout and prior to bed your golden.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  4. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    i don't mind paying if i know what i'm getting is quality.

    the Universal product, i sh!t out undigested.
    Universal Beef Aminos is all I get now. For recovery great but for size gains? Impeccable. Even then the price is still very reasonable.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    I prefer this over BCAAs. I find my energy level is better but you may have to dose higher to get the same recovery effects of BCAAs. There's an article here on AM about aminos between meals for growth.

    On a side note consider adding in IGF2 for gains and nutrient uptake. Dose it pre workout and prior to bed your golden.
    The article can't really be extrapolated to members of this board.

    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Universal Beef Aminos is all I get now. For recovery great but for size gains? Impeccable. Even then the price is still very reasonable.
    Diet determines both recovery and size gains. Dessicated liver is a great source of micronutrients and growth factors, but let's not get into thinking that "growth factor" = hypertrophy.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    20 tabs/day (25 if you want to do it right)..
    ultra-40 can be had for $30/32.
    @ 20 tabs daily = $1.20/day
    @25 tabs daily = $1.50/day

    i don't mind paying if i know what i'm getting is quality.

    the Universal product, i sh!t out undigested.
    Hmmmmmm
    just the fact that they're half the size Is appealing.


    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Universal Beef Aminos is all I get now. For recovery great but for size gains? Impeccable. Even then the price is still very reasonable.
    Its not mostly made from collagen and other crap ?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i used to do 25 or so a day too. u really gotta do that much. its an effort

    yes, on the epharm forum i am free to pimp
    Oh, I was talking about PHF.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    20 tabs/day (25 if you want to do it right)..
    ultra-40 can be had for $30/32.
    @ 20 tabs daily = $1.20/day
    @25 tabs daily = $1.50/day

    i don't mind paying if i know what i'm getting is quality.

    the Universal product, i sh!t out undigested.
    I've taken liver pills since high school, two an hour was what the local guru suggested and I religiously followed it for years and have eaten plenty of UNIVERSAL's and Shat out none
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  9. Jahcuree
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    I like Dynamic Fitness' Staminal. The tabs arent that big, i take about 20 per day of these. Whats optimal timing on it? i always just take half AM, half PM

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  10. Quote Originally Posted by RD929
    Its not mostly made from collagen and other crap ?
    Beef protein isolate, beef albumin concentrate, dessicated Argentine beef liver. First three ingredients on the label.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Beef protein isolate, beef albumin concentrate, dessicated Argentine beef liver. First three ingredients on the label.

    beef protein isolate can mean gelatin. by looking at the amino acid profile you can get a good idea whether the product is primarily gelatin. gelatin of course is made from collagen

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  12. Well... look at that. Back to Beverly International for me then - but first I'll do my homework on theirs as well. The second link in that post doesn't work but the first one leads me right to what I have lol.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Back to Beverly International for me then - but first I'll do my homework on theirs as well.
    tried to tell you about universal.
    beverly is not collagen, fyi.

  14. I used to go through 15-25 universal liver tabs a day for a while. I noticed an increase in energy and increased recovery time without a change in diet. Much better than bcaas imo.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    tried to tell you about universal.
    beverly is not collagen, fyi.
    Yeah you did. Thanks for that.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka
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