Betaine Anhydrous, thoughts?

**Celorza** · 08-03-2012 01:44 PM

What would be your thoughts on the use of Trimethylglycine (TMG) in regards to:

a)Hypertrophy

b)Adipose tissue reduction

c)"Pumps"

d)Use for Endurance increase in resistance training?

All that also factoring in its bioavailability orally also. Just wanted to pick your brains on this, ingredient caught my eye and I would like to know doses for it to be effective in any of those aspects (if any at all)

.

Thanks for the time Pat!

**Ginandtonic** · 08-03-2012 10:07 PM

Also curious about this supp, seeing it more in preworkouts

**Celorza** · 08-03-2012 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ginandtonic

Also curious about this supp, seeing it more in preworkouts

Same , but being a bbdotcom sh1t feauturette I has me doubts obviously. Furthermore...I already have some thoughts on it, but...The Man , The Legend...PA...Can bring more light into this

! Or Dish me away with a funny comment telling me basically he doesn't give a crap about this ingredient.

**rob112** · 08-04-2012 08:39 AM

There is a thread where someone is doing there own type of performance study. Maybe I'll see if I can bump it for results.

**Celorza** · 08-04-2012 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by rob112

There is a thread where someone is doing there own type of performance study. Maybe I'll see if I can bump it for results.

I saw! I don't remember if it was ZigRed or something like that who was doing a study on it!! I just never knew if he posted the final thoughts on it or results of the research!

**rob112** · 08-04-2012 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Celorza

I saw! I don't remember if it was ZigRed or something like that who was doing a study on it!! I just never knew if he posted the final thoughts on it or results of the research!

Just found it and bumped for results

**Celorza** · 08-04-2012 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by rob112

Just found it and bumped for results

Pm me the link please haha xD

**rob112** · 08-04-2012 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Celorza

Pm me the link please haha xD

On my phone man, kinda a bish to pm. It is the second or third thread in the general supps form. If ya don't see it I'll pm it later.

PA, your thoughts on the AM app?

**JonRubio** · 08-04-2012 10:00 AM

Subbed been wanting to ask this.

**mich29** · 08-05-2012 06:56 PM

used this as a preworkout awhile back and had decent results I believe I started at 500mg and went as high as 2g I believe

**mr.cooper69** · 08-05-2012 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by mich29

used this as a preworkout awhile back and had decent results I believe I started at 500mg and went as high as 2g I believe

2.5g is the main studied dose, unfortunately.

**AZMIDLYF** · 08-05-2012 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

2.5g is the main studied dose, unfortunately.

And?

**mr.cooper69** · 08-05-2012 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF

And?

And the dose he was using was sufficient for general health but likely not for ergogenic properties.

**SLW2** · 08-06-2012 06:03 AM

Subbed for more info

**AZMIDLYF** · 08-06-2012 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

And the dose he was using was sufficient for general health but likely not for ergogenic properties.

Thx C!

**Celorza** · 08-06-2012 10:23 AM

I'm still doubtful of it, might give it a shot at 2.5g though

**CATdiesel76** · 08-07-2012 08:50 AM

I am interested in this as well

**JudoJosh** · 08-07-2012 09:31 AM

The individual you are talking about is Zir Red who is doing his dissertaion on TMG. I would suggest that if you have questions about TMG you shoot him a PM.

If you would like to review the research on it I have a compiled most of it in this thread - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...genic-aid.html

As for if it works or not. After reviewing the research I think one of the main mechanisim at play here which would also benifit your typical gym goer is the increased methylation capacity which will reduce Hcy-Thiol and thus improve protein synthesis. This would be most profound in those individuals who do not eat veggies regularly.

This to me seems to be the best reason to take it as the other benifits (nutrient partitioning, increased GH pulse, IGF1, etc) has questionable research and conflicting research so it is not as clear but hopefully ZirReds study would help clear some of it help.

**SLW2** · 08-07-2012 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by JudoJosh

If you would like to review the research on it I have a compiled most of it in this thread - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...genic-aid.html.

Thanks for the link, there's a lot of good info in that thread

**Patrick Arnold** · 08-09-2012 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by Celorza

What would be your thoughts on the use of Trimethylglycine (TMG) in regards to:

a)Hypertrophy

b)Adipose tissue reduction

c)"Pumps"

d)Use for Endurance increase in resistance training?

All that also factoring in its bioavailability orally also. Just wanted to pick your brains on this, ingredient caught my eye and I would like to know doses for it to be effective in any of those aspects (if any at all)

.

Thanks for the time Pat!

betaine is not gonna do anything noticeable in any of those areas. that doesnt mean its inclusion in a supplement formula is a complete waste.

Betaine Anhydrous, thoughts?

Betaine Anhydrous, thoughts?

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