Green Coffee Bean
- 06-06-2012, 01:12 PM
“Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68 - 06-06-2012, 01:15 PM
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- 06-06-2012, 01:16 PM
Evolution takes place over the time span of thousands, millions, billions of years, not the <100 years that you have been alive. I am not going to reply anymore. I am sorry, but the statements you are making show you have absolutely no idea what you are even discussing. Take a few courses in genetics, evolution, or any biology for that matter and then maybe we will have something to talk about.
Edit: I suppose I should say evolution always takes place, because that is technically correct. But, you cannot see actual changes in species over a 100 year time period, that is the point. Also, you need mechanisms for change. Evolution happens in waves. Very large changes separated by periods of little change. Something has to push the evolution to occur. - 06-06-2012, 02:04 PM
Your saying something that has not been proven. If you read my other post you would see I acknowledge microevolution but There's no solid evidence of macroevolution. It's not that I don't understand what your saying, it's that scientifically I can't agree. It's psuedoscience. Look up the scientist Wolf-Ekkehard Lonnig and his findings. Data of 100 years of mutation and 70 years of mutation breeding offered this only conclusion. "Mutations cannot transform an original species into a entirely new one"- Lonnig.
“Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68 - 06-06-2012, 02:07 PM
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- 06-06-2012, 02:19 PM
It is not pseudoscience. But like I said I am not going to go back and forth it won't accomplish anything. Evolution is a theory (theory in science is supported by fact), it is supported by the vast majority of scientists (~99% if not more), and if you do not then that is fine it doesn't really bother me. But the evidence for evolution is >>>>>>> than any evidence for creationism.
- 06-06-2012, 02:56 PM
"you're saying something that has not been proven" *sigh*
How does one unsub from a thread?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KayBys8gaJY - 06-06-2012, 03:47 PM
- 06-06-2012, 03:50 PM
this last bit is key. often it takes extreme environmental stress to cause natural selection to occur. most of a species die but the ones with the right mutation that helps them survive carry on. this happens over and over again over large expanses of time and you end up with evolutionAnabolicminds.com Featured Author - 06-06-2012, 03:52 PM
I would've never guessed that green coffee bean was such a very delicate an intensely religious subject.
- 06-06-2012, 04:07 PM
- 06-06-2012, 05:00 PM
Please refer your bolded section to the comments that were made above them. The process of mutations and/or evolution works on a time scale of far greater than 70-100 years. Your comment here truly does not apply to this discussion. That is like a kid saying they are an A student throughout their educational career based on an A they received on a 1st grade spelling quiz
Mr. Supps Board Rep - 06-06-2012, 05:57 PM
Where is this common ancestor? What is it?
I love how you guys are so willing to teachIf you know something you think I don't then why won't you take the time to explain it to me? Why do you have to act as if you just know and I should just accept your theorys without showing me any evidence? Someone taught you what you know and probably had a lot of patience doing so.
I'am still waiting for the evidence of macroevolution..
What are some FACTS of evolution?“Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68 - 06-06-2012, 06:09 PM
Looking at what we know and concluding that there is no such thing as evolution is clearly a product of selecting data to fit your hypothesis. It's like reading a product write up for a supplement.
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- 06-06-2012, 09:28 PM
How is this NOT a justified question given the progression of this thread? Given the previous comments from the Atheist crowd attempting to "prove" we evolved from apes, shouldnt they provide a smoking gun and back up such "proof" with scientific fact?
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- 06-06-2012, 10:20 PM
Why are you arguing about evolution? Its clear that noone knows, even in the scientific community of what really occured. You guys are just putting up the same arguments and rebuttles as everyone else. This kind of discussion will literally go nowhere unless evolution is either disproved or regarded as fact. Of which neither has occured. Yes, people have done studies and experiements yet these have been flawed in more ways than one, often not recreating the exact conditions on the earth as it was, or producing the same outcomes as it was.
And yes, gravity is just a theory however evolution is a lot different. Gravity can be measured, it effects can be witnessed whereas evolution cannot be. Compare the two all you like, it doesnt mean everything that is a theory should be taken as fact. - 06-06-2012, 11:29 PM
Part of the problem with this debate is that anyone can turn anything around and we remain at square one.
I'm still waiting for the evidence of creationism.
What are some FACTS of creationism? Hint: Won't accept Genesis as evidence or fact.
I'm by no means an expert when it comes to evolution and most of what I could show would be via google anyways. It's been over 15 years since I was in a class that talked about it and I likely skipped most of those sessions anyways
Plenty of scientific information about evolution is on google would be my response. Undoubtedly more scientific evidence than exists for creationism. Googling On the Origin of Species should lead you to plenty of scientific evidence for what shaped Darwin's theory. I hope someone can clarify your question better, but I certainly cannot nor will pretend I can. Still asking for facts is a bit lame as evolution as already mentioned is a theory. A fact is something that we know is demonstrably true. Evidence exists for evolution, but since it cannot be fully proven how can you expect "facts" to exist?EvoMuse Products Rep
PM me with any questions! - 06-07-2012, 05:30 AM
But you've got me wrong. I am not a Christian nor do I belittle guys in labcoats. I'm a scientist by background. My honours degree is biochemistry, so please don't take this as an attack on science or any work that attempts to understand the world in which we live. My point only is that we cannot discount the existence of God because we as humans have a process for understanding the world around us. I just don't think science and God are mutually exclusive...that's all.
And the point about Einstein...its not a myth....Einstein didn't believe in a personal God, but he did believe in one due his theory of relativity pointing towards the Universe having a beginning. I've pasted his quote regarding this below...
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."
- 06-07-2012, 05:52 AM
Deism is completely dfferent to theism or atheism.Just because you believe in a force doesn't mean it's a God.He attests to that.Through his compendeum of writing.Some of the major quotes is in ''The God Delusion''.
According to Einstein, God is "a product of human weakness''.Deist,maybe ,theist ,never. - 06-07-2012, 06:23 AM
agreed. Einstein was not a theist by any means. Eventhough the universe had a beginning, it was not pointing towards an involved creator. It is 2 entirely different concepts
Mr. Supps Board Rep - 06-07-2012, 07:19 AM
ok you win. i am unable to give you guys a comprehensive education on the theory of evolution therefore it is a myth or doesnt exist and the bible is correct
give me a break. u sit back and throw these lame stones at science while offering no evidence to support your religious beliefs on the universeAnabolicminds.com Featured Author - 06-07-2012, 07:21 AM
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