high fetal androgen exposure (this is another sidebar) is related to a decreased 2D:4D ratio (ratio of index to ring finger). This has actually been used in science quite a bit to make correlations between fetal androgen exposure and adult phenotypes of behaviour and physiology. I dont think its been connected to penis size though
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True, but as long as the correlation exists statistically it would be fair to make that inference. I don't think that's actually the case, I was just pointing out the flaw in his logic (which turned out to be a flaw in his phrasing, or my reading, however you look at it) 'reductio ad absurdum'.
I was always under the impression it was the maternal DHT that was the biggest factor.....I thought I read it somewhere, added to that the propecia or whatever commercials with their "pregnant women should not ingest or handle this medicine due to 'certain types of birth defects'"...which I assumed had to do with male genetalia development.....in addition, it seems the women in certain racial groups (that are supposed to have superior penis size) tend to be more built and/or "hairy" which made me think hmmm (black, spanish, italian etc). All this could be total nonsense, but just observations I guess.
That if prenatal androgen exposure were the primary determinant of penis size, autistics and gays would all have giant schlongs. It doesn't matter if the prenatal androgen exposure is what's causing them to be gay/autistic, since prenatal androgen exposure has been correlated with autism and homosexuality.
But again, I was just using that inference to expose the flaw in the logic of his statement that 'the fetuses production of DHT is the most significant factor' in determining penis size.
Interestingly though, The Kinsey report included a study that showed gay men to have longer than average penises, but the methodology was flawed.
And as for different ethnic groups packing, I played sports at an innercity highschool and I can tell you that's a complete lie.
Veeeeeerrrrry interesting. I'm fine on the penis size issue, but I'd like to go back in a time machine and add GH or whatever where necessary to help give me more than 5' 8" height Make me feel better and tell me its predetermined in the fetus!
I told you before, I understand the point you were trying to make and it was legitimate. I misunderstood your post originally due to your ambiguous phrasing.
Stop trying to validate your own self-esteem by being a pompous jackass, that's not a sign of legitimate intelligence. If anything, it's a sign of a tiny dick, and in that case this really is the thread for you.
it is pretty subjective. Even if taken from antectdotal evidence from lovers, that midget I hooked up with would totally report my penis as 3 inches longer than it is.