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01-25-2012, 01:39 AM
01-25-2012, 08:14 AM
i think its secreted from the testes in a concentration of 1:20 compared to testosterone
since epitestosterone undergoes little metabolism after being secreted, while testosterone undergoes extensive metabolism, what ends up in the urine is close to 1:1
thus,if you inject a 20:1 mix of testosterone propionate / epitestosterone propionate you can fool the Test/Epi urine test. And this is what the east germans used to do. That was what the cream was based on, which used just transdermal free test/epi
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01-25-2012, 01:11 PM
waiting for something truely epic like that old school cream to come out. besides ibe's potential d-bol-like product currently being researched, i dont see anything amazing coming out.
01-26-2012, 12:35 AM
This discussion blew my mind.
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01-27-2012, 05:16 PM
so trendione and epitren are inactive metabolites and will not bind to/interact with the ar?
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01-28-2012, 12:27 PM
01-28-2012, 01:11 PM
trendione is indeed binding to the AR it's more potent then thought. raising heart rate warm feeling all over and stim like feeling I would say it;s doing something would'nt you think?
01-28-2012, 01:50 PM
it will move forward to trenbolone and have some noticeable anabolic properties through this pathway alone, but your write up is wrong in stating it will exclusively go to trenbolone (read thread). i'm not gonna buy trenavar from your company when your dosing vs price is based on wrong information...
if your hypothesis were true, injectable trenbolone would be a moot point no? lol
01-28-2012, 03:56 PM
How about I send you 3 packs for you to run solo and I bet you will be say defferenly. then why do you feel it on the first day? I am talking real life here not paper you and I both know paper compared to real life pretty showed us all it;s not always right. I did not do the write up henry V did why don't you talked to him about this. I have taken tren at very high dosage and I can tell you that there is a high conversion with trendione or it;s active on it;s owne and then you are wrong. I can care less what you are saying but the results are going against what you are trying to to say.
01-28-2012, 04:25 PM
01-28-2012, 06:01 PM
so far 45-60 mg is a good dose to start with for some reason it is very fast acting you will start feeling it on the first day. everyone is thinking 90mg and up but there is no need for that high of a dose, it is very potent at 60mg
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01-29-2012, 01:16 PM
01-29-2012, 02:17 PM
IBE's definitely trying to be a stand-up company [ reps for that ] - people asking left & right for free packets so they can "test out" the product and find the right dosages. Whatever happened to taking a risk and buying it? There's another guy who's 'testing' Trenavar with the mindset to disprove IBE & dudes already jumping the gun with the dosages. Some people might be forgetting that whatever works or doesn't work for them may not hold true with somebody else.
01-29-2012, 02:26 PM
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01-29-2012, 04:46 PM
I think he's directing that more towards shwellington.Originally Posted by 3clipseGT
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01-30-2012, 01:18 PM
Very interested in hearing more of the loggers' experiences. It seems very few are logging solo, but there are a few out there.
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