Thoughts on pulsing oral PH/DS

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by AtomicFox View Post
    This is very interesting guys. Keep it coming

    What would you think the ideal cycle would look like in your opinion?

    there is nowhere near enough information to figure out what an ideal cycle would look like. that is why i am posing questions here, rather than act holier than thou by claiming answers
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    yes it was one of the suggested methods along the way... i think just about every single possible method was discussed at one point or another honestly but this one stuck out to me as one that had some viable reasoning behind it.
    i will definitely try this next time, thanks for the info! the pulse thread got so big, it was difficult to keep track of it.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    I am not entirely sure i agree with that since steroids take a while to manifest their effects in the muscles. Unlike caffeine or viagra or something which work immediately by affecting cellular targets like enzymes and ion channels, steroids have to intiation gene transcription and the synthesis of new proteins which then go on to affect other systems in the cell etc. etc. This can take a while to ramp up. So taking a steroid probably will not have an immediate effect on anabolism, or at least its full effects will not be seen immediately.

    One may argue that 24 hours before a workout might be a better choice
    Patrick Arnold,

    Have you tried pulsing yet? If not you need to try so you can post with experience of a pulse under your belt

    From what your saying, if it did hold true, then the pulse I do today will be beneficial to my workout day after tomorrow and the pulse I do day after tomorrow will be beneficial for the next workout and so on and so forth.

    I’m a total layman, don’t know the science behind it, I just know the effects I’ve been experiencing and feeling during the pulse cycles I’ve done.
    Kind of like, I don’t know why it works, but I see & feel it working, so I don’t question it.

    I can say at least with my experience from pulsing Superdrol EOD (Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday) that I don’t start feeling the effects until about the 7th pulse day(approximately 2 weeks).
    By this time the “rapid uptake of water and glycogen into your muscles” seems to have completed.

    Shortly after this a heavier workout can be performed and I will no longer be experience DOMS. It almost seems as if there is a 100% post cycle recovery going on. I know this can not be possible.

    Things really start going after the 4th into the 5th week, muscles are more pumped up and you’re stronger during your workouts. I have to be carful and not be foolish and try to push too much and end up hurting myself, my tendons aren’t any stronger than they were prior.

    I continue making progress until I reach the end of the 8th week and discontinue the pulse. Then start my abbreviated PCT.

    Photos below. Sorry don’t have any photos of the current pulse I’m doing now. Will get some when it is completed.


    (2 Photos taken END of 8 Week Pulse of SD.) PULSE #2
    07-01-2011
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    (Photo Taken About 4th week of 8 Week Pulse of SD.) PULSE #2
    06-10-2011
    Attachment 45903


    I had my inguinal hernia surgery and was out of the gym for 7 weeks.

    (Photo Taken About 2nd week of 5 Week Pulse of SD.) PULSE #1
    02-25-2011
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    01-04-2011 Photo Taken prior to any Steroids after 6 months of weight lifting and loosing 50lbs.

    Attachment 45897
    ďJust be advised that the above information posted is not medical advice and should only be used for fun and entertainment.Ē

  4. ^^^

    Congrats on your progress, but resize those damn pics bro!

    Also, have you ran a "traditional" cycle of the same compound?
    E-Pharm Nutrition Representative

  5. Quote Originally Posted by rampage jackson View Post
    ^^^

    Congrats on your progress, but resize those damn pics bro!

    Also, have you ran a "traditional" cycle of the same compound?
    No actually I have only pulsed the SD Superdrol ( Methyldrostanolone) M-DROL & Methastadrol. Not done anything else, and not done a straight cycle.

    I bought some H-DROL & M-DROL along with CEL Support Supplements, CEL PCT Supplements & Nolvadex/Tamoxifen and started studding on this board about cycling.

    Did all kinds of searches on H-DROL & M-DROL.
    Learned M-DROL was a.k.a. for Superdrol which is really named Methasterone (Name given by Syntex Corporation 1956) C21H34O2 (Chemical Name)

    Continued searching and learning and came across Dr. D's guide, "How to Pulse Orals".

    I studied this for weeks on end, paying particular attention to the SD.

    This is a very old but good thread on pulsing, lots about Superdrol
    Link ---:> How to "pulse" orals

    So I decided to try the pulsing rout. It has been working so well, I donít know why I would try a straight cycle.

    I read all about people having a hard time with the sides doing SD cycles.
    I donít really have any sides pulsing SD, I do have a pimple now and again, but hey Iím not going to complain about a pimple now and again.

    Why mess up a good thing, the pulsing is working for me and I am not experiencing any of the sides other complain about and I am see the results I want.
    ďJust be advised that the above information posted is not medical advice and should only be used for fun and entertainment.Ē

  6. ever though about investing in a body trimmer wolf man? you would probably be even more happier with your results with the added visibility you'd get if ya got rid of that lions mane going on all over your torso.

    i've never tried pulsing, but i think next time i run superdrol, i will give it a try. see how it goes.

    until then, i prefer the full effects of staight cycles.

    maybe you should get another bottle of hdrol, and run it every day for 6 weeks, see how you like it.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    ever though about investing in a body trimmer wolf man? you would probably be even more happier with your results with the added visibility you'd get if ya got rid of that lions mane going on all over your torso.

    i've never tried pulsing, but i think next time i run superdrol, i will give it a try. see how it goes.

    until then, i prefer the full effects of staight cycles.

    maybe you should get another bottle of hdrol, and run it every day for 6 weeks, see how you like it.
    Actually I a little older than you, 44 now to be exact and from a different generation, I can remember when the girls would talk about how ďthat guyĒ had hair on his chest and just love it.

    My wife likes it and thatís all that matters, not shaving, Iím not a porn star.

    As for the hdrol, Iíve got more than one bottle. Iíve got enough to run 4 straight cycles of hdrol. Maybe some day I will do a straight cycle of it, because as I understand it can not be pulsed. Hdrol has too long of a half life and it has to convert in your system; it is not active like SD.

    For now I will just continue with my pulsing the SD I have on hand.
    Like they say: If its not broke donít fix it.
    ďJust be advised that the above information posted is not medical advice and should only be used for fun and entertainment.Ē

  8. Quote Originally Posted by middleageguy View Post
    No actually I have only pulsed the SD Superdrol ( Methyldrostanolone) M-DROL & Methastadrol. Not done anything else, and not done a straight cycle.

    I bought some H-DROL & M-DROL along with CEL Support Supplements, CEL PCT Supplements & Nolvadex/Tamoxifen and started studding on this board about cycling.

    Did all kinds of searches on H-DROL & M-DROL.
    Learned M-DROL was a.k.a. for Superdrol which is really named Methasterone (Name given by Syntex Corporation 1956) C21H34O2 (Chemical Name)

    Continued searching and learning and came across Dr. D's guide, "How to Pulse Orals".

    I studied this for weeks on end, paying particular attention to the SD.

    This is a very old but good thread on pulsing, lots about Superdrol
    Link ---:> How to "pulse" orals

    So I decided to try the pulsing rout. It has been working so well, I donít know why I would try a straight cycle.

    I read all about people having a hard time with the sides doing SD cycles.
    I donít really have any sides pulsing SD, I do have a pimple now and again, but hey Iím not going to complain about a pimple now and again.

    Why mess up a good thing, the pulsing is working for me and I am not experiencing any of the sides other complain about and I am see the results I want.
    I wasn't trying to push you one direction or the other. I was just curious as to if you'd tried a "standard" cycle for comparisons sake. If you're having results and maintaining a consistency, then more power to ya!

    And FWIW, I think I posted in the Dr. D thread back in the day.
    E-Pharm Nutrition Representative

  9. Quote Originally Posted by middleageguy View Post
    Actually I a little older than you, 44 now to be exact and from a different generation, I can remember when the girls would talk about how ďthat guyĒ had hair on his chest and just love it.

    My wife likes it and thatís all that matters, not shaving, Iím not a porn star.

    As for the hdrol, Iíve got more than one bottle. Iíve got enough to run 4 straight cycles of hdrol. Maybe some day I will do a straight cycle of it, because as I understand it can not be pulsed. Hdrol has too long of a half life and it has to convert in your system; it is not active like SD.

    For now I will just continue with my pulsing the SD I have on hand.
    Like they say: If its not broke donít fix it.
    totally understand, my father is from a different generation than you, he's 54, and shaves his chest/arms/legs. it must of skipped a generation.
    or maybe it's a bodybuilder thing that non budybuilders dont get.
    but if your wife likes it, hey, happy wife, happy life. just no more result pics, please!

    oh, and hd is active, it wont bind as stongly to the ar as turinabol, but it can.
    w/e does convert will be very little, if any at all.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    totally understand, my father is from a different generation than you, he's 54, and shaves his chest/arms/legs. it must of skipped a generation.
    or maybe it's a bodybuilder thing that non budybuilders dont get.
    but if your wife likes it, hey, happy wife, happy life. just no more result pics, please!

    oh, and hd is active, it wont bind as stongly to the ar as turinabol, but it can.
    w/e does convert will be very little, if any at all.
    I'm hairy as well, but i would never think of shaving my chest. I just feel naked. I tried magic shaving powder few years back, I looked like I was ran over by a lawn mower. couldn't wait till the hair grew back.
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  11. I came off injury where I stopped working out for 6 months (tears in both wrists due to reverse grip pull down for tri and couldn't even drive without pain in my wrists, being old and not flexible sucks). I dropped In weight alot. I did 10 week epi pulse every other day and gained 16lbs. it may sound great, but it is mainly size I lost. strength went up, weight went up. gained little fat sadly, but nothing major really.

    Stared using osta during weeks 9-10 and post cycle, been 5 weeks so far. weight went up about 3-4 lbs and strength finally started to taper off. will run osta for another week or two. the major side of osta is loss of libido. I don't "feel" shutdown, but with no libido, makes me think I am.

    I will be running AnaBeta after osta for a month or two. I would like to see what it does after this cycle.

    After that, I want to cut. Still trying to decide on a cut. thinking of pulse Epi with 11-oxo daily for 10 weeks, Epi and Furuza (no idea why it is considered cutting compound, I haven't seen anything showing impact on fat storage), or running all 3 with lower dose of 11-oxo amd Furuza. I am also keeping an eye on Ursobolic, hopefully by that time more feedback will be out.

  12. lol, magic shaving powder eh? that must of been interesting.

    different strokes for different folks!
  13. Amino Acids & other Supplements beneficial, during the cycle?


    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    totally understand, my father is from a different generation than you, he's 54, and shaves his chest/arms/legs. it must of skipped a generation.
    or maybe it's a bodybuilder thing that non budybuilders dont get.
    but if your wife likes it, hey, happy wife, happy life. just no more result pics, please!

    oh, and hd is active, it wont bind as stongly to the ar as turinabol, but it can.
    w/e does convert will be very little, if any at all.
    jbryand101b,

    I have a question for you as I think you should be more of an authority to answer it for me.

    When doing a cycle of SD or HD or whatever your cycling.
    If one takes (Amino Acids such as BCAA Leucine 4:1:1 ratio) or (Creapure Creatine) or (HMB supplement) or (MSM , methylsulfonylmethane), or possibly takes all of these during a cycle.

    Are these supplements beneficial, during the cycle?
    What I’m asking is will the gains be greater if the above are taken during a cycle of whatever?
    Or are they just a waist of money to be taken during a cycle and only a quality source of protein is needed to be taken during the cycle?

    Baring of course the necessity to take Cycle Assist Supplement for your liver and blood pressure.
    ďJust be advised that the above information posted is not medical advice and should only be used for fun and entertainment.Ē

  14. I believe they are.

    but I dont know of any data based evidence showing it is more benificial using supplements on cycle than not.

  15. Pulse cycles obviously work. I think a more interesting question is whether burst cycles do. IE Superdrol for one week a month every other month.

  16. i would not do that. SD will most likely shut you down in a week, plus a week a month most likely not give you good results since it will clear your system before second pulse

  17. my friend has some epi he said he'll give me... without a serm im so tempted to pulse... just not sure if i can pull the trigger (without a serm)

  18. I am currently on a pulse and I am in week 2. I am using 40mg Epistane first thing in the morning on my off days. At night before bed I am using Sustain Alpha and Testforce-2. My testicles haven't shrunk a bit, and I am normally prone to that side effect. Actually they seem bigger, which is probably to the SA and TF. So far it feels great
    Check my AnaBeta, Erase and DAA log at:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/178490-anabeta-erase-daa.html
  

  
 

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