you take caffeine?Originally Posted by jimbuick
I'm sorry. I must have misunderstood that then? To me it appeared that you WERE looking for opinions. "Thoughts" and "opinions" seem fairly interchangeable.Originally Posted by LMR01
I gave you my "thoughts." I chewed nicorette, and I did try it prewo for the possibility of fat loss. It did not work. I don't suggest it to anyone. I think it's a dumb horrible idea. I was not trying to be hostile in any of my posts like you have been. I have given you my "thoughts" on it as you had requested in your original post.
It's an open forum bud. Be mature.
FYI nicotine gun is amazing!
Anyone remember nico-lean? lol..
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I was a fan of the original **** flavored one lolOriginally Posted by JudoJosh
You won't get a direct answer right away in the advanced discussion. Usually it will fill with 50 other posts first. I understand you wanting an answer from the DR but prepare for other answers and thoughts.Originally Posted by LMR01
Youre right it's not the ideal anecdote but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
I have used it for years to get lean. Great at nutrient partioning, appetite suppression and a bit of a "stim"? Gum seems to be best for me in terms of ease of dosing and, for me, the "chewing" of gum helps with appetite suppression.
Ill add drops to a topical. Ill have to find then again but it'll act locally not systematic
But I used nicotine as an AI.
yeah i have seen that data, in baboons if i remember correctly but at a higher dose than suggested hereOriginally Posted by EBF Inc
prolly other in vitro stuff as well that i havnt bothered to look at
This idea has been around for awhile. Lol Ive used the gum back in the day and could not imagine getting addicted to the nasty stuff. ha. Like the article says if you never smoked start light. Ive never smoked andthe gum had me lit the 1st few times.
There's actually a published study in humans using caffeine and gum. Worth a read through. With 200mg caffiene/2mg gum (around that dose) increased thermogenesis response to almost 10%.
I use the gum off and on. Never smoked, don't ever get addictive cravings for it. There's an article on T-nation about it too.
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nicotine withdrawal is pretty easy to get over. it's slightly more uncomfortable than quitting caffeine after high dosing for a long time. i think the risks of becoming hooked are significantly lower with gum than cigs. there is something extra going on with cigarette addiction... maybe the social aspect, oral fixation, extra chemicals, or a combination of those.
so if it actually does provide fat burning benefits it might be worth it. i think it's important to note that it could increase your risk of pancreatic cancer. snus, a swedish steam pasteurized tobacco product, is supposed to be a healthy alternative to cigs and dip without the added cancer risks. although, it still does slightly increase the chances of pancreatic cancer. i don't know if the cause is the nicotine or other chemicals in the product. i'm guessing it's the nicotine because of nicotine's effect on insulin production.
the biggest problem ppl have are they think nicotine and automatically think cigarettes......there are many other forms of just nicotine which i've heard is about as harmful as a cup of coffee
as an ex-smoker or smoker depending on how you want to judge me i can say if i was hungry....a cigarette got rid of the craving for a time being so when i read the article i posted it did make sense to me...nicotine being a mild stimulant....it's been 5 months without a cigarette however
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I´ve used nicotine gum during this winter. I have long drive to work and I have to wake up really early, and the idea was to reduce caffeine based stimulant use. I have noticed reduced appetite, slight energy boost and a slight nootropic effect. I have never smoked and haven`t noticed any withdrawal symptons when I am not using gum.