I think it is promising; however, TUDCA is frankly underdosed in most supplements. Best liver effects are seen in GRAM dosages; especially acutely where there is a significant dose-response relationship (and estimated to only begin efficacy at greater than 11mg/kg or - for ease - the average 220 lb bodybuilder or 100 kg for ease needs about 1.1 grams acutely) for hepatobiliary disease like cholestatic pictures of C17-alpha-alkylated PH/PS/DS/AAS.
From a chronic perspective (where some people take orals - defined as probably greater than 8-12 weeks),
A 2 gram per day (in two divided 1gram doses) trial was just concluded this month...http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00877604
Why? Because smaller doses were simply ineffective.
So - if not cost-prohibitory to you...then why not? But I would make certain that most on this board are getting anywhere from 1-2 grams per day orally if you chose to embark upon this as your hepatoprotectant of choice.
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so what is the most effective liver protectant product in your view?
Im going to give it a shot... going to run it along side my organ shield...
$40 to save my liver is pennies in my eyes...
Maybe I will half my Ursodiol dose and stack with Aegis since I am the proud owner of an opened bottle. I do commend Antaeus for making a not complete garbage liver support supplement (that's a long list), but UDCA 600mg/day is hard to beat. Let the body conjugate it with taurine or glycine and save money. Or...
Test IM + Tren IM + hCG + Aromasin = orals not necessary, nor liver support (IME)
@H2S-if Aegis + 600mg/day of UDCA adds additional value by way of keeping my TA's in the sub 3x ULN range, I'd pay the extra cost. I've thought of trying 900mg/day of UDCA, but I think side effects may become more of an issue at that level, and that is pushing $2 a day as well. Most seem to be able to gobble down Superdrol and similar without any issues though, so UDCA solo for most would likely be the best choice for 17aa collateral damage control (HDL notwithstanding).
Ursodiol - less filler, tastes great*
What sides from UDCA & TUDCA?
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What kind of SAMe dosage are we talkin?Originally Posted by dinoiii
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http://bit.ly/KOvGxF dosage: http://bit.ly/NukQUS Couldn't find the link to where he tested brands, but I know this is on the list, it's what I take, and honestly, I just take 1 pill/day (400mg active) pretty much all the time (on, pct, whenever) for all the benefits, since it's so cheap. Now, I honestly never worry about my liver, even run 8 wk long double methyls are strong dosages and my values always come back right in range whenver I check. I had my father dose 2/day (800mg active) for a month after he got diagnosed with a fatty liver from drinking too much, and his fatty liver went away and his values went back in range... and while he cut back I think, he didn't even quit drinking. So yea, I'm a SAMe fan.
im starting my aegis a week before i start my pmag. Should i not also supplement AI lifesupport (which has nac and milk thistle)? i wasnt sure if itd be too much and should just take a aegis.