Any concerns of suppression when you stop using SAN T2 Xtreme if you may be..

[Cocaine4PWO]

hypothyroidism ?? thanks

Nutrition Facts

Serving Size 1 capsule(s) Servings Per Container 180 Amount Per Serving 3,3'-Diiodo-L-Thyronine 100 mcg 3,5-Diiodo-L-Thyronine 100 mcg

 

[Gore]

Subbed...I am very curious about this too as I am considering taking T2 after having labs done and realizing that I may be borderline hypo.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Not to speak for Dr. Houser but there is always a chance of suppression with thyroidals; however, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that you will get suppression if u dose the T2 responsibly.

 

[Cocaine4PWO]

Thanks mr.cooper

 

[dinoiii]

Here's my concern...if you are overtly hypothyroid; do you know why (i.e. - Hashimoto's; DeQuervain's; Subclinical, etc...)?

Would you be willing to post any blood work?

Would you be willing to share whether you are prescribed any medications for this ailment?


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[dinoiii]

Subbed...I am very curious about this too as I am considering taking T2 after having labs done and realizing that I may be borderline hypo.

I don't know what this means? Do you mean..."subclinical hypothyroid" or something else?

Have you gotten a thyroidal antibody panel (anti-TPO; anti-Thyroglobulin) if so?

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[Gore]

I don't know what this means? Do you mean..."subclinical hypothyroid" or something else?

Have you gotten a thyroidal antibody panel (anti-TPO; anti-Thyroglobulin) if so?

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Sorry for the confusion, this thread was actually started as a favor to me based off of another thread that I started. To make a long story short I had some pre-surgery lab work done and I found out that my TSH level was 2.4 (there were no tests for t3/t4 levels which I know is less than ideal). My dr. uses the .5-5 scale which lists me as normal but I did a little research and found out that recently people have been shifting to s scale that tops out at high 2's-3.0. During my research I also read through the symptoms of having hypothyroidism and I have a few of them e.g.: cold hands & feet that won't warm up, being tired after a good night's sleep, thinning hair. I also think I was on the low side for RBC's as well which was another thing that I think tied into hypothyroidism. Obviously these could be a result of other things but it all kind of fits together. My thyroid hasn't stopped me from getting into good shape for MMA and I can still lose weight, hence me saying borderline, or to be more correct subclinical (but I thought people would know what I meant).

To answer your other questions, yes I would be willing to post bloodwork, and no I not currently taking any meds for my thyroid.

 

[dinoiii]

I like to normalize as many patients as possible around a TSH of "1" as variance from that number is exponential on the T3/T4 scale in some instances, so I don't disagree necessarily with your hypothesis; BUT as a caveat to that statement...as there are many things that might shift values. Time of Day; Micronutrient Derrangement; Stress; Diet; Weather (yes hot vs. cold will be reflected in the number); Other hormones, drugs and supplements ALL AFFECT TSH values.

You suggest a lower side of RBCs - fine; but do you have a Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV) and Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW) you know of. Anemia and related conditions can present similar; so be careful of self-diagnosis. The trick here too is that hypothyroidism can cause a low-grade anemia, so this is of debate how best to approach this without the values I have requested.

Yes, a Free T4 and T3 would be of use. A conversion defect between T4 (inactive) --> T3 (active) might exist; which can, in certain scenarios, be reflected by the TSH; but I wouldn't know without a T3 (in particular).


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[Gore]

			WBC COUNT 6.9 3.5 - 12.5 K/uL Red blood cells count 4.50 4.10 - 5.70 M/uL Hgb 13.8 13.0 - 17.0 g/dL Hematocrit 40.3 39.0 - 51.0 % MCV 90 80 - 100 fL RDW, RBC 12.2 12.0 - 16.5 % Platelets count 211 140 - 400 K/uL

 

[Gore]

Does that help?

My idea was just to try the SAN T2 and to see if I notice any changes in some of the symptoms. If I do notice some changes then it would make sense for me to seek actual treatment for this. If not, I am out the cost of a bottle of T2, and since SAN's T2 isn't supposed to be suppressive...no harm done.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Does that help?

My idea was just to try the SAN T2 and to see if I notice any changes in some of the symptoms. If I do notice some changes then it would make sense for me to seek actual treatment for this. If not, I am out the cost of a bottle of T2, and since SAN's T2 isn't supposed to be suppressive...no harm done.

I don't know about the doc, but your hope is misplaced in diiodos IMO. I'm not so sure you will feel such compounds at work.

 

[dinoiii]

			WBC COUNT 6.9 3.5 - 12.5 K/uL Red blood cells count 4.50 4.10 - 5.70 M/uL Hgb 13.8 13.0 - 17.0 g/dL Hematocrit 40.3 39.0 - 51.0 % MCV 90 80 - 100 fL RDW, RBC 12.2 12.0 - 16.5 % Platelets count 211 140 - 400 K/uL

Does that help?

My idea was just to try the SAN T2 and to see if I notice any changes in some of the symptoms. If I do notice some changes then it would make sense for me to seek actual treatment for this. If not, I am out the cost of a bottle of T2, and since SAN's T2 isn't supposed to be suppressive...no harm done.

I would be more hard-pressed to suggest hypothyroidism and would be more interested in getting a Vitamin B12 level first and try supplemental form of methylcobalamin from 5,000 mcg (a much more realistic stimulation dose than most commercial products offer).

I understand what the "normal" values suggest, however - an MCV > or equal to 90 in light of a low normal RDW implies that you may harbor subclinical hypocobalaminemia (as opposed to subclinical hypothyroidism; besides your TSH is equivocal without a Free T3 or T4). You could go to privatemdlabs.com and get a Serum Vitamin B12, Methylmalonic Acid, Folate, TSH, FT4, FT3 if it would help you rest easier at night. You have probably a higher case of anxiety on the subject than is likely warranted...BUT I cannot fault a desire to be proactive on the subject.


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[Gore]

Thank you for your continued posts on the matter, I appreciate it. I still have a few more labs to get done through my dr. that I didn't complete because I hadn't fasted, I'm not sure if the ones you mentioned would get covered through them or not. I will try to get then done asap though.

On a side note I did find out that a few family members were anemic so I don't know if that would play into my symptoms. Thoughts?