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12-19-2012, 04:58 PM
Gotta tell you.
I bought into the probiotics hype and wasted money for a year straight on some expensive ones.
Couldn't afford them anymore, been off for 9 months now, didnt notice JACK of a difference and I dont even yogurt or heck - any of the 10 top probitocs foods listed here http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/n...obiotic-foods/
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01-27-2013, 10:49 PM
I started using the "health supplements", recomended by Dana in this thread, and I have made better gains and lost fat(I can see my abs) in the past 8 months, than I had in the prior 5 years. I am in better shape, feel better, and have not been sick since starting this. I did not use any test boosters, or any type of supplements like that during this time. Just whey protein, a preworkout and creatine mono. I am even thinking of competing(the guys at my gym say I should), for the first time. I would have never thought I would get to that level, but I am told I am close(and I have not really been dieting for a show, trying to clean bulk actually). Just wondering if any one else had success doing this?
01-30-2013, 01:53 AM
So I got my daily health stack down for the most part...
(in no particular order)
1. Ubiquinol @ 400mg
2. Curcumin @ 1g (should I dose higher than this due to poor bio-availability?)
3. Jarrow B-Right @ 1 capsule/day and 5000mcg Methyl B12 tablets
4. MAN Orotine/Clout (3g Creatine Orotate)
5. Vitamin D3 5000 I.U.
6. Vitamin C @ 250mg twice/daily
7. LEF Super Selenium Complex (200mcg)
8. MagTein (Magnesium L-Theronate @ 2g)
9. Beta alanine/LCLT/Leucine I get from Body Octane/Clout and Figure Fuel
10. Biotivia Pteromax (1 capsule/day)
What does everyone think?
01-30-2013, 02:28 AM
01-30-2013, 02:36 AM
What about in regards to ubiquinol's ability to to change type 1 muscle fiber to type 2? Is that more-so applied to the elderly? I have painful joints, so I thought curcumin may be able to help in that aspect. I'm just dosing the MagTein as the label states since i'm not familiar with much research around it outside the MIT studies, but it does sound promising so I thought i'd give it a try.
I'm a big tea drinker, so hopefully i'm getting enough EGCG through that.
01-30-2013, 02:41 AM
Ditch the curcumin and get cissus. Curcumin delivery to the musculoskeletal system is incredibly limited.
01-30-2013, 02:46 AM
01-30-2013, 11:18 AM
What is your opinion on omega 3's being unstable and easily oxidized, and the possibility that they get incorporated in your cell membranes and make you unstable and easily oxidized?
Here's my updated one, MustangMan:
7. Fish Oil
I'm not sure what to place in those last three theoretical spots. Obviously, I don't need to have anything in those spots, but I like looking for the perfect candidate.
I'll steal those last three to add extras in preworkout ingredients:
I guess the list is ever evolving.
I dropped creatine and beta alanine because I haven't responded any time I have taken them. I don't avoid them if they are already in a product though.
01-30-2013, 01:41 PM
I think the possibility of supplemental Omega-3s causing cross-linking and oxidative stress is very real. I know it's been beaten to death, but if you can get n-3s through your diet, do so. If not, there are protective measures that can be taken, e.g. co-ingestion with certain ingredients (not vitamin E, as that has been pretty much proven ineffective for such). For instance, you put ALA in your top 10 supplements. ALA has good data showing it prevents lipid peroxidation.
01-30-2013, 03:22 PM
01-30-2013, 03:53 PM
01-30-2013, 04:28 PM
I need to become a minimalist; in the sense that, I'll only take compounds that directly benefit my health, Olympic weightlifting training, and my studies.
This is definitely not a novel idea, but one I should have entertained earlier.
01-30-2013, 05:45 PM
Definitely trying to pare down my supp list as well, but it so easy to get distracted or fooled into the next big thing, lol.
Coop, what do you think about the PhosphoMega or phospholipid bound EPA? Seems the price doesn't warrant the benefit to me.
Current refined list:
Ubiquinol 200 mg
p-5-p 25 mg
methylfolate 1.6 mg
methylcobalamin 5 mg
fish oil 2 g
beta alanine 1-2 g
and varying types of ALCAR, generally at around 500 mg.
I rotate in a multivitamin at times as well as various herbs for various specified needs (like ashwagahnda for stress) but that's the main list.
Obviously, like most here, I am constantly trialing new workout supps just for fun/motivation/goal specific.
01-31-2013, 02:50 AM
01-31-2013, 01:10 PM
Thanks! 1g of TMG is probably my average per day. I forget to take it, then down 5g preWO. The data on it has definitely gotten more interesting over the years. Unfortunately, that means the price will shoot up as well.
02-03-2013, 12:47 AM
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02-03-2013, 01:40 PM
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02-03-2013, 02:35 PM
I've been revamping my list over the past week or so. I realized that I don't benefit from most of the supplements I take due to my adequate diet and young age (and some compounds don't even have a use in healthy individuals).
My list is now comprised of:
Olive Leaf Extract
02-03-2013, 03:08 PM
These are all association studies, but domore, you'd especially like the fact that GTE has human data showing reduced LDL and triglycerides, increased HDL and:
Tea Consumption Enhances Endothelial-Dependent Vasodilation; a Meta-Analysis
That's a relative flow increase of 40%
02-03-2013, 04:08 PM
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02-03-2013, 07:41 PM
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02-08-2013, 12:06 AM
I'm personally a believer in Curcumin. I'm six months out of a torn labrum surgery now. Last month on some heavy shoulder presses, my shoulder really got inflamed. I took curcumin (1.5g) along with ginger (1.5g) for a few days and inflammation went away. Ever since, I've made it part of my supplemental diet. Plus it also has many other benefits (anti cancer, fights tumors, anti Alzheimer, etc). There are lots of studies and research done on it.
I like Cissus too, but it hasn't been as studied as Curcumin. I also wonder if it produces estrogen, but some say the opposite saying it's anabolic.
02-08-2013, 12:09 AM
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