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  1. Quote Originally Posted by matter2003 View Post

    I have nothing to sell. Forget zinc challenges, I got something you can do for free. If you have hangnails or white spots in your nails, you are deficient in zinc. Easy enough to check. Love how you completely ignore the fact that copper intake from water traveling through copper pipes you drink and shower in(largest intake area of the body is the skin) more than negates your zinc intake in most cases or at least severely lowers the 10:1 ratio men should have. But its not surprising when people don't understand how things work, I guess its to be expected.

    As far as heavy metals with the prevalence of it only an idiot would laugh at that, to put it bluntly.
    I am heavy metal toxic and I don't really find it ****ing funny. Think its ridiculous when you start having uncontrollable muscle and eyelid twitching, fatigue all day long, dark circles under your eyes, low thyroid, difficulty concentrating and remembering, speech that occassionally slurs, liver and kidney impairment and the depletion of glutathione in the body and uncountable other symptoms that mimic lots of other conditions but are actually caused by heavy metals. Not to mention it completely F's up your endocrine system.

    Yeah that real ****ing funny you uneducated, ignorant jackass.
    Well I neither have hang nails or white spots on my nails (though I thought those were calcium deposits) so I guess I'm good


  2. Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    Well I neither have hang nails or white spots on my nails (though I thought those were calcium deposits) so I guess I'm good
    Its one of the easiest signs of zinc deficiency along with hangnails and stretch marks on the skin
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by matter2003 View Post

    I think it would be shocking to see how many men are deficient in zinc. Again you need to understand that zinc and copper are antagonists and as one is raised the other is lowered. Think you get a lit of zinc from eating meat? I guarantee you that is nothing compared to the amount of copper you get from drinking and showering in water that is traveling through hundreds of miles of copper pipes and eating food cooked in copper pots and pans. Not to mention lots of foods contain copper as well such as vegetables...considering men are supposed to have a 10:1 ratio of zinc:copper and it doesn't take much copper to require a crapload more zinc.


    Also remember taking lots of zinc or eating lots of zinc doesn't mean its being absorbed. If you high in toxic heavy metals which many people unknowingly are, those receptors for zinc are already occupied by those heavier denser metals. Zinc in this case would be like a car looking for a parking spot in a full parking lot...driving around with nowhere to go.

    Zinc deficiency is much more common than you believe...
    A zinc surplus antagonizes copper much more strongly than a copper surplus antagonizes zinc absorption

  4. Gotta tell you.

    I bought into the probiotics hype and wasted money for a year straight on some expensive ones.

    Couldn't afford them anymore, been off for 9 months now, didnt notice JACK of a difference and I dont even yogurt or heck - any of the 10 top probitocs foods listed here http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/n...obiotic-foods/

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    and have some yoghurt with added probiotics.
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  5. I started using the "health supplements", recomended by Dana in this thread, and I have made better gains and lost fat(I can see my abs) in the past 8 months, than I had in the prior 5 years. I am in better shape, feel better, and have not been sick since starting this. I did not use any test boosters, or any type of supplements like that during this time. Just whey protein, a preworkout and creatine mono. I am even thinking of competing(the guys at my gym say I should), for the first time. I would have never thought I would get to that level, but I am told I am close(and I have not really been dieting for a show, trying to clean bulk actually). Just wondering if any one else had success doing this?
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  6. So I got my daily health stack down for the most part...

    (in no particular order)

    1. Ubiquinol @ 400mg
    2. Curcumin @ 1g (should I dose higher than this due to poor bio-availability?)
    3. Jarrow B-Right @ 1 capsule/day and 5000mcg Methyl B12 tablets
    4. MAN Orotine/Clout (3g Creatine Orotate)
    5. Vitamin D3 5000 I.U.
    6. Vitamin C @ 250mg twice/daily
    7. LEF Super Selenium Complex (200mcg)
    8. MagTein (Magnesium L-Theronate @ 2g)
    9. Beta alanine/LCLT/Leucine I get from Body Octane/Clout and Figure Fuel
    10. Biotivia Pteromax (1 capsule/day)


    What does everyone think?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by MustangManGT View Post
    So I got my daily health stack down for the most part...(in no particular order)1. Ubiquinol @ 400mg2. Curcumin @ 1g (should I dose higher than this due to poor bio-availability?)3. Jarrow B-Right @ 1 capsule/day and 5000mcg Methyl B12 tablets 4. MAN Orotine/Clout (3g Creatine Orotate)5. Vitamin D3 5000 I.U.6. Vitamin C @ 250mg twice/daily7. LEF Super Selenium Complex (200mcg)8. MagTein (Magnesium L-Theronate @ 2g)9. Beta alanine/LCLT/Leucine I get from Body Octane/Clout and Figure Fuel10. Biotivia Pteromax (1 capsule/day)What does everyone think?
    That's a hefty dose of ubiquinol. Also, my recent med school studies have led me to believe that supplementing CoQ10 as a healthy youngster is pretty much a waste of money. You can probably just ditch the curcumin too, unless you have some sort of inflammatory disorder.The dose of magnesium may be too high as well. The rest looks great. Consider, for health:Green Tea ExtractGreen Coffee Bean ExtractBetaine Anhydrous81mg Aspirin

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    That's a hefty dose of ubiquinol. Also, my recent med school studies have led me to believe that supplementing CoQ10 as a healthy youngster is pretty much a waste of money. You can probably just ditch the curcumin too, unless you have some sort of inflammatory disorder.The dose of magnesium may be too high as well. The rest looks great. Consider, for health:Green Tea ExtractGreen Coffee Bean ExtractBetaine Anhydrous81mg Aspirin

    What about in regards to ubiquinol's ability to to change type 1 muscle fiber to type 2? Is that more-so applied to the elderly? I have painful joints, so I thought curcumin may be able to help in that aspect. I'm just dosing the MagTein as the label states since i'm not familiar with much research around it outside the MIT studies, but it does sound promising so I thought i'd give it a try.

    I'm a big tea drinker, so hopefully i'm getting enough EGCG through that.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MustangManGT View Post
    What about in regards to ubiquinol's ability to to change type 1 muscle fiber to type 2? Is that more-so applied to the elderly? I have painful joints, so I thought curcumin may be able to help in that aspect. I'm just dosing the MagTein as the label states since i'm not familiar with much research around it outside the MIT studies, but it does sound promising so I thought i'd give it a try.

    I'm a big tea drinker, so hopefully i'm getting enough EGCG through that.
    It would indeed apply moreso to the elderly. I also pose the question: why do you want to change muscle fiber distribution? Type I fibers are usually just fine where they are, and there could be health implications of altering local skeletal muscle metabolism.

    Ditch the curcumin and get cissus. Curcumin delivery to the musculoskeletal system is incredibly limited.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It would indeed apply moreso to the elderly. I also pose the question: why do you want to change muscle fiber distribution? Type I fibers are usually just fine where they are, and there could be health implications of altering local skeletal muscle metabolism.Ditch the curcumin and get cissus. Curcumin delivery to the musculoskeletal system is incredibly limited.
    I guess I just misunderstood the fundamentals muscle fiber distribution. I just started taking cissus as well as taking AL Achiles which has some cissus in it.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    That's a hefty dose of ubiquinol. Also, my recent med school studies have led me to believe that supplementing CoQ10 as a healthy youngster is pretty much a waste of money. You can probably just ditch the curcumin too, unless you have some sort of inflammatory disorder.The dose of magnesium may be too high as well. The rest looks great. Consider, for health:Green Tea ExtractGreen Coffee Bean ExtractBetaine Anhydrous81mg Aspirin
    Per Coop's recommendation a couple days ago, I ditched CoQ10 for my later years in life. Being an autodidact, I place my trust in the med school student. I know Dr. Houser advocates CoQ10, but his recommendation may not fit due to my age range.

    Coop,

    What is your opinion on omega 3's being unstable and easily oxidized, and the possibility that they get incorporated in your cell membranes and make you unstable and easily oxidized?

    Here's my updated one, MustangMan:

    (no order)

    1. Na-R-Ala
    2. ALCAR
    3. GTE
    4. Magnesium
    5. LCLT
    6. Tocopherol/Tocotrienol
    7. Fish Oil
    8. ---
    9. ---
    10. ---

    I'm not sure what to place in those last three theoretical spots. Obviously, I don't need to have anything in those spots, but I like looking for the perfect candidate.

    I'll steal those last three to add extras in preworkout ingredients:

    Citrulline Malate
    Caffeine
    PLCAR
    Creatine Nitrate

    I guess the list is ever evolving.

    I dropped creatine and beta alanine because I haven't responded any time I have taken them. I don't avoid them if they are already in a product though.

  12. I think the possibility of supplemental Omega-3s causing cross-linking and oxidative stress is very real. I know it's been beaten to death, but if you can get n-3s through your diet, do so. If not, there are protective measures that can be taken, e.g. co-ingestion with certain ingredients (not vitamin E, as that has been pretty much proven ineffective for such). For instance, you put ALA in your top 10 supplements. ALA has good data showing it prevents lipid peroxidation.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I think the possibility of supplemental Omega-3s causing cross-linking and oxidative stress is very real. I know it's been beaten to death, but if you can get n-3s through your diet, do so. If not, there are protective measures that can be taken, e.g. co-ingestion with certain ingredients (not vitamin E, as that has been pretty much proven ineffective for such). For instance, you put ALA in your top 10 supplements. ALA has good data showing it prevents lipid peroxidation.
    Thanks, Coop.

    I really never consider it to be a possibility until recently (I think you are aware of the conversation). I really don't eat that much seafood, but anyway, is 2-3g EPA/DHA still warranted? I see many people just blindly throw that range out there.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    Thanks, Coop.

    I really never consider it to be a possibility until recently (I think you are aware of the conversation). I really don't eat that much seafood, but anyway, is 2-3g EPA/DHA still warranted? I see many people just blindly throw that range out there.
    3g EPA/DHA is the total daily plasma saturation level. It is the most aggressive dose of EPA/DHA that can be used without heavy peroxidation and "waste." I personally take about 2g EPA/DHA daily with high fat meals, and in triglyceride form.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    3g EPA/DHA is the total daily plasma saturation level. It is the most aggressive dose of EPA/DHA that can be used without heavy peroxidation and "waste." I personally take about 2g EPA/DHA daily with high fat meals, and in triglyceride form.
    I've always taken fish oil because of the purported benefits/importance of fatty acids, their role in the synthesis of other compounds (citicoline), etc. However, I may drop it. Like I said to you before, my goal is to minimize worthless supplementation. I've realized that most of the stuff I take (even if it has some supportive studies) isn't benefiting me (and a waste of money).

    I need to become a minimalist; in the sense that, I'll only take compounds that directly benefit my health, Olympic weightlifting training, and my studies.

    This is definitely not a novel idea, but one I should have entertained earlier.

  16. Definitely trying to pare down my supp list as well, but it so easy to get distracted or fooled into the next big thing, lol.

    Coop, what do you think about the PhosphoMega or phospholipid bound EPA? Seems the price doesn't warrant the benefit to me.


    Current refined list:

    Ubiquinol 200 mg
    p-5-p 25 mg
    methylfolate 1.6 mg
    methylcobalamin 5 mg
    fish oil 2 g
    beta alanine 1-2 g
    TMG 1g
    rezveratrol
    and varying types of ALCAR, generally at around 500 mg.

    I rotate in a multivitamin at times as well as various herbs for various specified needs (like ashwagahnda for stress) but that's the main list.

    Obviously, like most here, I am constantly trialing new workout supps just for fun/motivation/goal specific.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    Definitely trying to pare down my supp list as well, but it so easy to get distracted or fooled into the next big thing, lol.

    Coop, what do you think about the PhosphoMega or phospholipid bound EPA? Seems the price doesn't warrant the benefit to me.


    Current refined list:

    Ubiquinol 200 mg
    p-5-p 25 mg
    methylfolate 1.6 mg
    methylcobalamin 5 mg
    fish oil 2 g
    beta alanine 1-2 g
    TMG 1g
    rezveratrol
    and varying types of ALCAR, generally at around 500 mg.

    I rotate in a multivitamin at times as well as various herbs for various specified needs (like ashwagahnda for stress) but that's the main list.

    Obviously, like most here, I am constantly trialing new workout supps just for fun/motivation/goal specific.
    I don't think it's worth the price either. I'd also try to bump up your TMG dose (if not for general health that is).

  18. Thanks! 1g of TMG is probably my average per day. I forget to take it, then down 5g preWO. The data on it has definitely gotten more interesting over the years. Unfortunately, that means the price will shoot up as well.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by MustangManGT View Post
    So I got my daily health stack down for the most part...

    (in no particular order)

    1. Ubiquinol @ 400mg
    2. Curcumin @ 1g (should I dose higher than this due to poor bio-availability?)
    3. Jarrow B-Right @ 1 capsule/day and 5000mcg Methyl B12 tablets
    4. MAN Orotine/Clout (3g Creatine Orotate)
    5. Vitamin D3 5000 I.U.
    6. Vitamin C @ 250mg twice/daily
    7. LEF Super Selenium Complex (200mcg)
    8. MagTein (Magnesium L-Theronate @ 2g)
    9. Beta alanine/LCLT/Leucine I get from Body Octane/Clout and Figure Fuel
    10. Biotivia Pteromax (1 capsule/day)


    What does everyone think?
    That's a lot of magnesium. Why so much?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by sideshowdoc View Post
    That's a lot of magnesium. Why so much?

    That's just the amount of Magnesium L-Theronate, elemental magnesium is 144mg per serving.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by MustangManGT View Post

    That's just the amount of Magnesium L-Theronate, elemental magnesium is 144mg per serving.
    How long have you been taking it? Have you been taking it long enough to notice any differences?
    EvoMuse

  22. Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    Per Coop's recommendation a couple days ago, I ditched CoQ10 for my later years in life. Being an autodidact, I place my trust in the med school student. I know Dr. Houser advocates CoQ10, but his recommendation may not fit due to my age range.

    Coop,

    What is your opinion on omega 3's being unstable and easily oxidized, and the possibility that they get incorporated in your cell membranes and make you unstable and easily oxidized?

    Here's my updated one, MustangMan:

    (no order)

    1. Na-R-Ala
    2. ALCAR
    3. GTE
    4. Magnesium
    5. LCLT
    6. Tocopherol/Tocotrienol
    7. Fish Oil
    8. ---
    9. ---
    10. ---

    I'm not sure what to place in those last three theoretical spots. Obviously, I don't need to have anything in those spots, but I like looking for the perfect candidate.

    I'll steal those last three to add extras in preworkout ingredients:

    Citrulline Malate
    Caffeine
    PLCAR
    Creatine Nitrate

    I guess the list is ever evolving.

    I dropped creatine and beta alanine because I haven't responded any time I have taken them. I don't avoid them if they are already in a product though.
    May have to add GTE myself. Otherwise using pretty much all of that. I dropped COQ-10 because it is expensive but have made sure my parents use it.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    May have to add GTE myself. Otherwise using pretty much all of that. I dropped COQ-10 because it is expensive but have made sure my parents use it.
    I've added GTE and dropped CoQ10 based on a worthy recommendation. It is definitely not needed at my age, even though I thought I could still benefit from some ergogenic capacity.

    I've been revamping my list over the past week or so. I realized that I don't benefit from most of the supplements I take due to my adequate diet and young age (and some compounds don't even have a use in healthy individuals).

    My list is now comprised of:

    Health:
    Na-R-Ala
    ALCAR
    GTE
    Magnesium
    Cissus
    Olive Leaf Extract

    Peformance:
    Citrulline Malate
    LCLT
    Caffeine

  24. These are all association studies, but domore, you'd especially like the fact that GTE has human data showing reduced LDL and triglycerides, increased HDL and:

    Tea Consumption Enhances Endothelial-Dependent Vasodilation; a Meta-Analysis

    That's a relative flow increase of 40%

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    These are all association studies, but domore, you'd especially like the fact that GTE has human data showing reduced LDL and triglycerides, increased HDL and:

    Tea Consumption Enhances Endothelial-Dependent Vasodilation; a Meta-Analysis

    That's a relative flow increase of 40%
    Thanks for the reference of endothelial vasodilation, too. Could I draw the correlation that since hypertension is a risk factor of CVD and endothelial dysfunction plays a role in the development of CVD, green tea extract seems to be a winner for pre-hypertensive individuals?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by MustangManGT View Post
    That's just the amount of Magnesium L-Theronate, elemental magnesium is 144mg per serving.
    Can you tell much of a difference using that particular kind of magnesium?? I guess it claims to have more pronounced effects on cognitive functions....

  27. Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    Thanks for the reference of endothelial vasodilation, too. Could I draw the correlation that since hypertension is a risk factor of CVD and endothelial dysfunction plays a role in the development of CVD, green tea extract seems to be a winner for pre-hypertensive individuals?
    Yes. If you look at the whole body of data, (lower TG, lower LDL, higher HDL, increased endothelial function) it would be tough to believe that all of this is just a lifestyle correlation with those who drink tea (though it still could be).

  28. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Yes. If you look at the whole body of data, (lower TG, lower LDL, higher HDL, increased endothelial function) it would be tough to believe that all of this is just a lifestyle correlation with those who drink tea (though it still could be).
    Good deal. I don't know why I haven't considered supplementing with it. I've purchased some last week so I've been incorporating it into my regimen.
    EvoMuse

  29. I'm personally a believer in Curcumin. I'm six months out of a torn labrum surgery now. Last month on some heavy shoulder presses, my shoulder really got inflamed. I took curcumin (1.5g) along with ginger (1.5g) for a few days and inflammation went away. Ever since, I've made it part of my supplemental diet. Plus it also has many other benefits (anti cancer, fights tumors, anti Alzheimer, etc). There are lots of studies and research done on it.

    I like Cissus too, but it hasn't been as studied as Curcumin. I also wonder if it produces estrogen, but some say the opposite saying it's anabolic.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    That's a hefty dose of ubiquinol. Also, my recent med school studies have led me to believe that supplementing CoQ10 as a healthy youngster is pretty much a waste of money. You can probably just ditch the curcumin too, unless you have some sort of inflammatory disorder.The dose of magnesium may be too high as well. The rest looks great. Consider, for health:Green Tea ExtractGreen Coffee Bean ExtractBetaine Anhydrous81mg Aspirin
    Ive been using 120mg cq10 for years. Waste? Should I use ubiquinol?
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