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- 08-20-2012, 12:51 AM
- 09-08-2012, 02:12 PM
Went ahead and purchased vitamin d3. It's very affordable so I guess I'll see if there are actually any benefits once I've taken it for a while.
- 09-08-2012, 02:14 PM
Also ordered some Coq10. Looking it up there are so many benefits to taking it, so I'll likely keep taking as a staple supplement. Thanks for your help mr.cooper.
09-08-2012, 02:14 PM
09-08-2012, 03:58 PM
Isn't Coq10 more beneficial for older people, as in 30+?
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09-08-2012, 04:17 PM
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09-08-2012, 04:18 PM
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09-29-2012, 02:56 PM
09-29-2012, 03:29 PM
Note that this doesn't mean that taking ubiquinone is ineffective; all it means is that taking ubiquinol is more effective. If you are in your twenties, your body can probably convert much of the ubiquinone into ubiquinol, which means that you can save money and get the cheaper form (then again, this may mean that you probably don't need supplemental CoQ10 in the first place, although I am unsure given the effects, that you'd go wrong even in a state of "excess" although again - not clearly identified). If, on the other hand, you are over forty or concerned about your heart health, it may be worthwhile to go for the ubiquinol.
So how much ubiquinone is pure ubiquinol equal to? According to Kaneka, apparently the only manufacturer of ubiquinol, ubiquinol is up to six times as effective as ubiquinone in increasing blood levels of ubiquinol. So to get the same effect, you could take one sixth of the amount as ubiquinol compared to ubiquinone. But read the "up to" part of that statement; its long-since been suggested to use two times as much ubiqinone versus ubiquinol, but this number probably isn't that static.
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09-29-2012, 03:42 PM
So after reading that I'm still not sure what would be the superior product to take, either CoQ10 or Ubiquinol. I just purchased a 60 count bottle of CoQ10 400 mg a week or so ago. I'll continue to take that till I run out but I'm wondering if I should switch to Ubiquinol at that time and what dosage to run. I'm currently just taking one 400mg CoQ10 cap a day. I just turned 40 at the end of July. Heart disease/High Cholesterol/Type 2 Diabetes/Stroke/dementia all in family history. So I'd like to take some preventative measures including supplementation.
09-29-2012, 06:01 PM
09-29-2012, 06:12 PM
09-29-2012, 06:36 PM
Plus I was half asleep when I read that post. Literally was falling asleep. Just woke up from a nap now. I'm old, I need naps and clarification of simple concepts.
09-29-2012, 06:45 PM
09-29-2012, 07:04 PM
09-29-2012, 07:39 PM
I agree with you on the Krill. I never bought the hype.
In Dino's final sentence, he suggest a 2:1 efficacy as the accepted values. Seems like a realisitic guesstimate (which is the best you're going to get) due to the down stream conversion.
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11-30-2012, 09:29 AM
Hi Dr. D,
You mention multi-vitamins being a waste. Do you still think this is the case for someone who takes a PPI(Zegerid 20 bid)?
Since most of the malabsorption seems to be around B vitamins and some minerals, I take a mineral supplement like ZMK or Source Naturals Life Minerals already and pepper in C and B's throughout day. My questions on this part are: Is that still a waste? and Do you know of any guidelines for how much extra B, K, and Minerals a PPI user needs?
I can't find anything other than that they can cause a deficiency. I want to get enough magnesium, especially, but not too much.
Thanks for taking the time to read my long-winded question.
12-18-2012, 09:51 AM
How is zinc not number one, let alone not even on this list? Many men are deficient in it and it is what men's bodies are based on. Men are zinc based, women are copper based. It also controls over 3% of our gene expression and researchers have found "zinc fingers" which are areas of our DNA that require zinc to be able to "turn on" the genes.
Zinc also down regulates aromatase and is a very strong AI by itself. In fact German bodybuilders have taken 200 mg of zinc per day as their AI. Zinc is also key for many enzyme processes to work properly and especially key in production of Testosterone and digestion. Without zinc you cannot produce.
12-18-2012, 09:56 AM
Stomach acid which means your digestion is subpar at best. I believe most people would be surprised to find they are deficient in zinc. You can buy a liquid zinc challenge for about 8 bucks that will let you know. Money well spent, IMO.
Personally I think zinc is number one and its not particularly close. B complex is important as well since it is a cofactor in many zinc reactions and they work together...
By definition if you are low in zinc, you are high in copper as they are antagonists and when one rises, the other falls. The higher copper you have, the more female you become as excess copper produces estrogen...zinc definitely is NOT something you want to be deficient in.
Also do not underestimate the possibility you might be deficient in zinc. Just because you take zinc does not mean it is being absorbed properly. Heavy metals that are prevalent in our environment such as mercury are preferred to zinc by the body as they are a denser heavier metal and bind to the zinc receptor leaving fewer of them available for performing their proper function. These heavier metals do not cut properly like a round peg in a square hole but effectively block zinc from being absorbed. Taking zinc but still zinc deficient? Try heavy metal detoxing as it will pull those metals blocking the receptors and free them up
12-18-2012, 11:02 AM
12-18-2012, 11:16 AM
There is no reason to supplement with zinc, especially if you are on a high protein diet. There is PLENTY of Zinc in food. You can get all you need and more from your diet.
12-18-2012, 11:21 AM
Yes, its very easy and very cheap. Get a liquid zinc challenge solution which you can find on Amazon.com for like 8 bucks and probably has 50 or more uses, take two tablespoons of this and hold it in your mouth until you get some type of taste. Proper zinc levels are denoted by a mettallic taste in the mouth quickly. Low levels are denoted by a hydrogen peroxide taste and very low to non existent levels are denoted by no taste. The longer it takes for a taste to occur the lower the levels are.
12-18-2012, 11:32 AM
12-18-2012, 11:53 AM
12-18-2012, 12:17 PM
I think it would be shocking to see how many men are deficient in zinc. Again you need to understand that zinc and copper are antagonists and as one is raised the other is lowered. Think you get a lit of zinc from eating meat? I guarantee you that is nothing compared to the amount of copper you get from drinking and showering in water that is traveling through hundreds of miles of copper pipes and eating food cooked in copper pots and pans. Not to mention lots of foods contain copper as well such as vegetables...considering men are supposed to have a 10:1 ratio of zinc:copper and it doesn't take much copper to require a crapload more zinc.
Also remember taking lots of zinc or eating lots of zinc doesn't mean its being absorbed. If you high in toxic heavy metals which many people unknowingly are, those receptors for zinc are already occupied by those heavier denser metals. Zinc in this case would be like a car looking for a parking spot in a full parking lot...driving around with nowhere to go.
Zinc deficiency is much more common than you believe...
12-18-2012, 12:36 PM
It's almost as if your trying to sell Zinc......Lmao at high in toxic heavy heavy metals!!....I'm really not worried about that sorry. Ridiculousness!
12-18-2012, 12:46 PM
Love how you completely ignore the fact that copper intake from water traveling through copper pipes you drink and shower in(largest intake area of the body is the skin) more than negates your zinc intake in most cases or at least severely lowers the 10:1 ratio men should have. But its not surprising when people don't understand how things work, I guess its to be expected. This doesn't even begin to talk about how the body uses up zinc in large quantities when under stress along with B vitamins, but you are having a hard enough time with what I have already brought up.
As far as heavy metals with the prevalence of it only an idiot would laugh at that, to put it bluntly.
I am heavy metal toxic and I don't really find it ****ing funny. Think its ridiculous when you start having uncontrollable muscle and eyelid twitching, fatigue all day long, dark circles under your eyes, low thyroid, difficulty concentrating and remembering, speech that occassionally slurs, liver and kidney impairment and the depletion of glutathione in the body and uncountable other symptoms that mimic lots of other conditions but are actually caused by heavy metals. Not to mention it completely F's up your endocrine system.
Yeah that real ****ing funny you uneducated, ignorant jackass.
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