[rugrat5288]

anyone supplementing dhea and if so at what dose and have you seen any results using it?

[DreamWeaver]

I have been debaitng using it in my PCT.

[Jack of Shadows]

I use it and have for many years (54 y/o now). I use 50 mg per day in the AM as an estimated replacement dose for predicted age-related declines.

Results? Well, I do not use it with any results in mind - that is, not for gaining muscle or strength. I use it on an ongoing basis in the hopes of maintaining more normal (youthful) levels, for all of the effects on health and well-being that maintaining those levels might offer. So it is hard to say what the results are...I would be trying to define the absence of a negative as a positive when, quite frankly, whether the negative would happen is not at all clear.

And I am not willing to stop for a period of time to see if or how things would be different.

Sorry if that is not much help.

[shimshadee]

are you plan on taking it during an cycle?

[rugrat5288]

thought i might try it as a standalone. being older(42) thought it might be a good thing to try.

[TripDog]

Originally Posted by Jack of Shadows

I use it and have for many years (54 y/o now). I use 50 mg per day in the AM as an estimated replacement dose for predicted age-related declines.

Results? Well, I do not use it with any results in mind - that is, not for gaining muscle or strength. I use it on an ongoing basis in the hopes of maintaining more normal (youthful) levels, for all of the effects on health and well-being that maintaining those levels might offer. So it is hard to say what the results are...I would be trying to define the absence of a negative as a positive when, quite frankly, whether the negative would happen is not at all clear.

And I am not willing to stop for a period of time to see if or how things would be different.

Sorry if that is not much help.

Good feedback Jack.....It does help keep youthful hormone levels.

[DreamWeaver]

I agree sometimes we use supps based on what we hope we know about decreasing levels. I use PGH with the same beliefs, however I do feel it does make a difference in maintaining lower body fat, but I digress.

[luclyluciano]

Originally Posted by TripDog

Good feedback Jack.....It does help keep youthful hormone levels.

How does one know if they have youthfull hormone levels?

I'm 46 yrs old in very good shape, lots of muscle & could be bettter of course! Age seems to creep in slowly not noticing the gradual changes.

Been considering DHEA for this reason and 6-0x0 for shedding unwanted bodyfad around my midsection which seems to have come about due to age since I eat very clean!

Other than fat burning....what else is DHEA good for?

[Hank Vangut]

Originally Posted by luclyluciano

Other than fat burning....what else is DHEA good for?

there are tons of good studies on dhea supplementation.

as the most abundant sex hormone in the body it is important for in maintaining libido, insulin sensitivity, congnitve function, immune function, cognitive function and much more.

it however does not increase t levels.
and this is why it has a poor image in the bbing community.

but if you are deficient or hypogonadal (or secondary hypogonadism induced by AAS) dhea supplementation is very benefitial.

however too much dhea and it readily converts to estrogen.

so i for this reason it seems best used by older farts (which i'm slowly becomming) or people recovering from an aas cycle.

[Nightwanderer]

Originally Posted by Jack of Shadows

I use it and have for many years (54 y/o now). I use 50 mg per day in the AM as an estimated replacement dose for predicted age-related declines.

Results? Well, I do not use it with any results in mind - that is, not for gaining muscle or strength. I use it on an ongoing basis in the hopes of maintaining more normal (youthful) levels, for all of the effects on health and well-being that maintaining those levels might offer. So it is hard to say what the results are...I would be trying to define the absence of a negative as a positive when, quite frankly, whether the negative would happen is not at all clear.

And I am not willing to stop for a period of time to see if or how things would be different.

Sorry if that is not much help.

That sounds very much like something I would say at your age under the same circumstances, you must have a lot of patience
for those who don't go over your words slowly or with care.

[DreamWeaver]

I forget what is the recommended does during PCT 200 mg ed?

[Hank Vangut]

from the studies i've read a low dose (50mg/d) can be more than sufficient in boosting DHEA above naturally occurring levels.

considering that young adult males usually produce no more than 20-25mg of DHEA per day........50mg/day can easily double blood DHEA levels within a few days.

remember, the goal in using DHEA in post cycle therapy should be to reduce cortisol and improve libido. so a small dose should suffice.

[DreamWeaver]

Ok that would be a change in the school of thought from years ago I believe, I am sure I read 200 somewhere a few years ago.

[Hank Vangut]

yeah, i remember seeing a lot of recommendations for 100-200/day.
but we also used to think it could produce an anabolic effect at a higher doses - which just isn't true.

dhea supplementation is introducing an exogenous hormone that will suppress natural production. and the goal of pct is to restore natural hormone production not suppress them.
for this reason and the fact that excess can convert to estrogen at a time when estrogen is already high is the reasoning behind a much lower dose.

[luclyluciano]

I remember about 6 yrs ago when I used to train in Karate is had a pad-work partner that was back then my age (46 yrs young) he happened to be the owner of avery large speaker manufacturing company. This guy had not fat whatsoever and tons of energy...he would mountain bike, ski, do Karate plus lots more I'm sure. Anyway, we always seemed to have the same strength when partnered up & doing the drills together and I was slowly noticing him getting stronger & stronger until it was getting to the point where His kicks & punches were knocking me off my feet! I asked him if he was taking anything & he confessed he was taking DHEA.

Does DHEA increase your strength levels like that if it gives you youthfull hormone levels??