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Being lean at 35, 40, 45... More aerobics?

  1.  02-21-2008  06:57 PM
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    Being lean at 35, 40, 45... More aerobics?


    Hey you guys...

    I remember before I turned 33 or so, I could be lean by just watching the diet and doing my weights, no need for aerobics (aka "low-intensity cardio").

    As age went on, the need for cardio seemed to increase to the point now that it is absolutely necessary to even retain leanness unless actually dieting when lean.

    Do you guys feel that way too? I feel it is due to falling GH levels, so please take into account your GH supplementation in your replies.

    I got some guy telling me that I should not do aerobics to cut and I'm like

    Yeah aerobics can be catabolic but just weights and diet? How many of you get lean without aerobics or GH?

    Thanks!



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    I have always been challenged to stay lean, age really doesn't have too much of an impact. The leanest I was ever was just before I turned 44. I would guess that increased actibity would be key to staying leaner as you get older. Stricter with the diet as well. All I can say is I have to use both.

    My partner never has to use any cardio and he gets down to around 4% at contest time and he's 53. Body type plays a bigger role than age I think.
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    Grunt I have always been able to stay lean. I have been off everything for over a year now and it is even easier for me now. I think it is because I was always into cardio and while on gear I never really did much for cardio. How ever now I am a lean mean fighting machine lol

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    I do cardio year round now no matter what, what changes is the duration of the cardio, my diet and the type of cardio. I do interval cardio year round with slower stuff as well jut the durations go up and my carbs and calories are modified when i'm trying to get lean, like right now

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    Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    I do cardio year round now no matter what, what changes is the duration of the cardio, my diet and the type of cardio. I do interval cardio year round with slower stuff as well jut the durations go up and my carbs and calories are modified when i'm trying to get lean, like right now
    What, they let 21-year-olds in here?

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    Yes it is much harder for me to lose the fat now than say 8-10 years ago. Now cardio is a must. If I'm on a treadmill it's because I've become thoroughly disgusted w/ myself. And what does a 21 yr. old know about middle age?

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    I seem to have the same problem. I didn't have a problem staying lean only 2-3 years ago. Also since my time in the hospital with cholostasis everything seems to be more difficult.

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    Originally Posted by Ribo68 View Post
    Yes it is much harder for me to lose the fat now than say 8-10 years ago. Now cardio is a must. If I'm on a treadmill it's because I've become thoroughly disgusted w/ myself. And what does a 21 yr. old know about middle age?
    Bite me, i was talkin about staying lean in general, i've never had a fast metabolism, mine is just about as sluggish as it gets.

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    Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    Bite me, i was talkin about staying lean in general, i've never had a fast metabolism, mine is just about as sluggish as it gets.

    Lighten up Francis! Just bustin' your chops a lil'. However, the question was if there was a "change" in what it takes to get or stay lean at 35-45 compared to what it took 10-15 years ago. And that answer is...yes! Looks like you and the treadmill are gonna be the best of friends.

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    I stated before and will again, I think that in a lot of cases this phenonmenon is exagerated somewhat. Seems to be the case for most endos anyway. Maybe we just don't notice it much, or at all.
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    Im 32 now, and I totally agree that cardio is a definite necessity. I always do 10-15 minutes preworkout, and another 20 afterward IF i have time (which usually is never lol)

    Ive also found that some of the 'GH boosting' supps are more effective now that Im gettin' on in years...when I ran Somnidren for a month I leaned up a bit, without any changes to diet or training.

    Im trying to workout some kind of supplement regimen that can keep hormone levels optimal without breaking the bank...cycling natural test/GH boosting products every few months seems to be effective.

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    Cardio is an absolute, unless your a natural ecto.

    Im a lifelong endo, and Im about in the middle of your age scale, and Ive been slacking on the cardio for a while and I absolutely notice a Decrease in vascularity and definition. And recently due to various reasons and someone passing, Ive been totally missing training altogether, and Im gaining weight like a pregnant woman.

    So to summarize, I say cardio is a must for 35-45 to be what most of us would consider lean.
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    Go read Scott Abel's blog on the Arobic Myth. After reading that, I doubt you will want to use steady state cardio as a weapon against fat loss ever again.

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    As an ecto at age 35, I don't have too many problems staying lean other than the usual dietary discipline. During those periods that I do a lot of cardio, I lean out well but lose size.

    My biggest problem is that recovery time is getting longer and longer. I can stay very sore for 7 days pw.

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    yeah, i agree with most here that cardio is a must if you want to get really lean.

    more recently i've found that i get better results if i switch up my cardio program every week or two. - much like i do w/my wieght program.

    before this i would only go for moderate paced jogs ever week.
    but now i do all sorts of stuff and at different paces. now i spend less time doing cardio with better results.

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    Originally Posted by Vegking View Post
    Go read Scott Abel's blog on the Arobic Myth. After reading that, I doubt you will want to use steady state cardio as a weapon against fat loss ever again.
    Lemme guess, he's an extreme ecto...

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    Originally Posted by Grunt76 View Post
    Lemme guess, he's an extreme ecto...
    Exactly, endo's need cardio a lot of ecto's don't or very little. I find if I throw in some interval training in place of some of my regular cardio, it helps.
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    yep, interval training is the bomb...mainly because it's not as boring. lol

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    Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    yep, interval training is the bomb...mainly because it's not as boring. lol
    But weights basically ARE HIIT...

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    Originally Posted by Grunt76 View Post
    Lemme guess, he's an extreme ecto...
    Nope, why don't you just read the blog.

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